-- Dr. Gilbert Lawrence wrote :
The question to you, with your psychiatric background: What do we do with
difficult cases or what in medicine is termed resistant subset? Is applying
Dilbert's dictum the only solution?
- Dr. Ferdinando dos
Dr. Gilbert
Lawrence wrote : ……. The question to you, with your
psychiatric
background: What do we do with difficult cases or what in medicine
is termed
resistant subset? Is
applying Dilbert's dictum the only solution?
RESPONSE :
Patients with
George Pinto said :
Just this morning at Anjuna beach, Aunty D'souza clearly stated that IF the
Goan inquisition happened, it did not happen in Goa but Bihar. If
you run into her this week, she has a
special sale on homeopathic medicinal
cures for delusions, Rs. 10 for one
As promised in my last post in this thread, I provide below a brief review of
the Boutron et al JAMA paper for the lay public. In doing so, I will answer the
questions that needed to be answered in the first place. These answers should
make it clear to those who have followed this thread why
-- Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcao wrote:
If the cap didn't fit him, a learned person as Santosh claims himself, should
have just ignored the comment. ... Education is attaining knowledge; in
contrast
to Degrees which is just a piece of paper. Education cannot be obtained through
Santosh Helekar said: Gilbert
is now taking out his frustrations about Goanetters who have exposed his
follies by smearing and insinuating their innocent families who have
nothing to do with Gilbert or Goanet. What a
shameful thing to do!
BTW, all responses to such abusive posts
are
Santosh Helekar
I must say that I am shocked and thoroughly disappointed. I am sorry to say
this
but it is so sub-standard that even a flunking high school student would have
done a better job.
And even more blah blah ... blah.
--- GL responds:
Any person with
--- On Sat, 10/16/10, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote:
Gilbert is now taking out his frustrations about Goanetters who have
exposed his follies by smearing
I would kindly request Gilbert to stick to facts and the truth will follow.
This is the hallmark of good arguments.
On
- Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcao wrote:
From Mr. Santosh Helekar's posts on Goanet on the subject Science for sale..',
it is obvious that he does not know how to discuss issues. I don't
expect discussions to proceed in such manner, specially when one claims to be
teaching post
Gilbert is now taking out his frustrations about Goanetters who have exposed
his follies by smearing and insinuating their innocent families who have
nothing to do with Gilbert or Goanet. What a shameful thing to do!
BTW, all responses to such abusive posts are already being posted on
Mr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão here appears not to be able to see himself well
in his mirror. In a thread that is supposed to be about science for sale he is
expressing his casteist prejudice against fisherwomen, stereotyping and abusing
them in a cheap manner.
The main topic in this thread
In his previous post Gilbert thanked me for providing him with the original
paper by Boutron et al, and promised Goanetters that he would read that paper,
and offer them his analysis of it. He starts his latest post appended below by
claiming that it is his review of that paper.
But if he
From Mr. Santosh Helekar’s posts on Goanet on the subject ‘Science for
sale..’, it is obvious that he does not know how to discuss issues. I don’t
expect
discussions to proceed in such manner, specially when one claims to be teaching
post graduates and post doctorates. Basic knowledge of how
I would like to point out the mistakes made by Gilbert in his post below.
--- On Tue, 10/5/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Thank you for sending us this article from JAMA (Journal
of the American Medical Association). I perused it. As many know, America
is big into RCTs
This is a continuation of my prior post reviewing this paper from JAMA on RCT
(Randomized Clinical Trials)
This paper is a greater critique of the medical-scientific establishment than
what Dr. Hyman reported. The JAMA paper questions the ability of medical
scientists to interpret the data,
Mr. Ferdinando here appears to be ignorant about a lot of things, but
especially about the self-proclaimed expertise and activities of Gilbert on
Goanet. Gilbert has veritably copied and paraphrased a multi-part series here
on the European Inquisition. Please see the following links:
-- Santosh wrote:
I am attaching herewith the Boutron et al JAMA paper discussed by Mark Hyman in
Huffington Post. People with medical background on this list, or for that
matter, people with scientific background, should be able to recognize quite
well that Hyman has
SANTOSH HELEKAR wrote: BTW, has anyone noticed that this radiation oncologist
believes he is an expert on the history of the European Inquisition,
among many other things? RESPONSE : First and foremost,
nowhere in Gilbert’s post has he written anything
about
--- On Tue, 10/5/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hence Dr. Hyman's and similar articles are on-spot; both challenging the
medical establishment as well as directly educating the public; who often
demand the newest drug seen on TV.
The material appended below confirms once
--- Dr. Ferdinando wrote:
It is quite evident that jc has separated Theology and religion; and who is
entitled to discuss what. If that is so may I ask what was the topic of
discussion as evident from the ‘Subject’? Was is surgical procedures, line of
treatment, differential diagnoses,
J. COLACO jc said: Interesting discussion between a reputed Oncologist, a
brilliant Neuroscientist and a good Priest.
Two among them are definitely not quacks. J. COLACO jc said:
a: I know many priests (mainly Jesuit) who possess recognised qualifications
in the
Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcao wrote:
I totally agree with Pe. Ivo and Gilbert and also that there is 'Scientific
illiteracy' in this forum as quoted.The discussion will not be rational and
also
not on the topic the writer tries to convey; obviously as all the critics who
presume
At last, it is refreshing to read something that is sensible and based on sound
knowledge about the peer review process from someone else who, like Jose and
me, is genuinely familiar with it. Contrast what Jeevan has written below with
the boorish crap from Gilbert, Fr. Ivo, Gabriel and Dr.
scientists ...
- Original Message
From: Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com
To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Mon, 4 October, 2010 4:13:05 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Science for sale ...
And the same for peer reviewers who are all to often in an I scratch
your back and you scratch mine.
--- On Sun, 10/3/10, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
That is peer review of today, I presume ...
And another word used nowadays is consensus among scientists ...
Looks like another human caused global warming denier. The Huffington Post does
not look kindly upon
From: Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com
To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Mon, 4 October, 2010 4:13:05 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Science for sale ...
And the same for peer reviewers who are all to
often in an I scratch
your back and you scratch mine.
Ivo icso...@bsnl.in wrote: **I do agree with you, Dr.Gilbert. What Dr.Mark
Hyman is writing is true. This is known to any layman in medicine or
quack.Let us avoid this scientific illiteracy on this Forum.
RESPONSE: I totally agree with Pe. Ivo and
Gilbert and also that there
From: J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com
Ivo icso...@bsnl.in wrote: **I do agree with you, Dr.Gilbert. What
Dr.Mark Hyman is writing is true. This is known to any layman in
medicine or quack.Let us avoid this scientific illiteracy on
this Forum.
response:
Interesting discussion between a
In recognized and respected Journals, the peer review process is
performed by more than three Referees who are specialized and experts
in the area under study. If there are conflicting reviews than the
Editor usually gets further opinions from other experts in the field.
Besides, even if the
Unable to refute the data in the original article we are seeing a lot of the
usual bobbing and weaving with 'shoot the messenger'. The scientist losses his
insights to seek the truth, when it comes to seeing the speck in our own eye.
Another great example of: The Jack of all subjects has
On 4 October 2010 22:11, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Unable to refute the data in the original article we are seeing a lot of
the
usual bobbing and weaving with 'shoot the messenger'. The scientist losses
his
insights to seek the truth, when it comes to seeing the speck in
- J. Colaco wrote:
Interesting discussion between a reputed Oncologist, a brilliant Neuroscientist
and a good Priest. Two among them are definitely not quacks.
Ivo wrote:
I do agree with you, Dr.Gilbert. What Dr. Mark Hyman is writing is true. This
is
known to
In response to this from me: Interesting discussion between a reputed
Oncologist, a brilliant Neuroscientist and a good Priest. Two among
them are definitely not quacks.
Gilbert Lawrence wrote: Jose. if priests talking about medicine
are quacks, what should doctors talking about religion be
While there is some truth in what is said in the Huffington Post article linked
below, one also has to be skeptical about political and ideological websites
such as Huffington Post and the authors that write on them. Please read the
following criticism regarding the quackery and pseudoscience
Gilbert Lawrence wrote: Medicine and Science for sale Please see link
below.
Following the article please see the feedback from readers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/dangerous-spin-doctors-7-_b_747325.html
RESPONSE: This holds true for Goa also,
To malign articles WITH REFERENCES by talking about the ideology of the
news-outlet (in which the article appeared) at best is guilt by association.
That is what Santosh's response is doing. The scientists that he quoted should
take specific issues in the article and debunk it with data AND
From: Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com
To malign articles WITH REFERENCES by talking about the ideology of the
news-outlet (in which the article appeared) at best is guilt by
association.
That is what Santosh's response is doing. The scientists that he quoted
should
take specific issues
Ivo icso...@bsnl.in wrote: **I do agree with you, Dr.Gilbert. What
Dr.Mark Hyman is writing is true. This is known to any layman in
medicine or quack.Let us avoid this scientific illiteracy on
this Forum.
response:
Interesting discussion between a reputed Oncologist, a brilliant
That is peer review of today, I presume ...
And another word used nowadays is consensus among scientists ...
- Original Message
From: Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com
To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Mon, 4 October, 2010 4:13:05 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Science for sale
--- On Sun, 10/3/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Please do not respond by attacking me; as I am not the topic of this
thread.:=))
..
Eminent neurologists and psychiatrists are the worst offenders (next to
those promoting cancer drugs) of
--- On Sun, 10/3/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Please do not respond by attacking me; as I am not the topic of this
thread.:=))
..
Eminent neurologists and psychiatrists are the worst offenders (next to
those promoting cancer drugs) of
--- On Sun, 10/3/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Please do not respond by attacking me; as I am not the topic of this
thread.:=))
..
Eminent neurologists and psychiatrists are the worst offenders (next to
those promoting cancer drugs) of
Medicine and Science for sale Please see link below.
Following the article please see the feedback from readers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/dangerous-spin-doctors-7-_b_747325.html
Regards, GL
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