Re: [Goanet] Suvarnaprashana for children on May 28 at Shiroda Goa

2009-05-28 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 5/28/09, SHRIKANT BARVE wrote: > > Dr. Santosh Helekar, > This is exectly the difference, I believe, you dont > beleive. > My concern is that this belief is a blind belief in something just because it is ancient or Indian or eastern or sacred. I am alarmed that th

Re: [Goanet] Invitation - We Love Ayurveda

2009-05-29 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > >If scientific (expensive) medicines can use the placebo effect > as the studies show, why would not the same pathways apply > to / be used by Ayurveda, homeopathy, alternative > medicines, nutraceuticals, etc.? > I have no idea what the first part

Re: [Goanet] Why english media silent on this Mass convertion movement

2009-05-30 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 5/30/09, shri8...@yahoo.com wrote: > > People demand Anti-conversion bill in Goa in a meeting. > A law against conversion would be unconstitutional in India. Conversions cannot and should not be banned. In a secular democracy people have a right to change their religion, give it

Re: [Goanet] Ayurvedic Medicines & Heavy metal issue

2009-05-30 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 5/29/09, SHRIKANT BARVE wrote: > > Ayurvedic Medicines & Heavy metal issue > Prof.K.R.Kohli M.D(Ay), Ph.D > Director-Ayurveda Research > Dabur Research Foundation > > >We have a history of uninterrupted practice of these systems of medicine >for >last

Re: [Goanet] Invitation - We Love Ayurveda

2009-05-31 Thread Santosh Helekar
I point out below statements and insinuations that have no basis in fact: --- On Sun, 5/31/09, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > > Some refuse to accept the effect of 'mind over body' > which the author, a neuro-scientist is presenting. >   The above statement is entirely false. None of the authors of

Re: [Goanet] Dr. Ahamed Ajmeer, an Ayurvedic Doctor receives death threats from multi nationals

2009-05-31 Thread Santosh Helekar
This is hilarious. It would be interesting to know how many Goanetters believe the following news item, and how many journalists on Goanet would publish such a claim in their newspaper in the manner that it has been published. Cheers, Santosh --- On Sun, 5/31/09, SHRIKANT BARVE wrote: > > A

Re: [Goanet] Dr. Ahamed Ajmeer, an Ayurvedic Doctor receives death threats from multi nationals

2009-06-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 6/1/09, J. Colaco < jc> wrote: > > Now - all this doctor needs to do is to provide documentation from a > recognised hospital where PVS was diagnosed, and present this patient > for the public to see for themselves. > The man appears to be making up stories either in self-interest

Re: [Goanet] Side-Effects of Blood Pressure Meds, Side-Effects of Hypertension Drugs as Fat Fertilizer

2009-06-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
Please do not trust the information provided by self-styled consumer advocates who claim to be experts on public health matters, on websites such as that in the post below. For accurate information on high blood pressure, please read this booklet provided by one of the world's most prominent p

Re: [Goanet] Complementary & Alternative Medicine for Pet Health Management

2009-06-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 6/9/09, SHRIKANT BARVE wrote: > > Today, these essences are selected either singly or in > combination depending upon the condition and the > practitioner. The most popular Bach flower remedy is called > the “Rescue remedy” and this is again a combination of > five essential remedies

Re: [Goanet] Torches in the Fields at Night

2009-06-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 6/12/09, Alfred de Tavares wrote: > > Santosh...Selma...pls help me remember the lines... > > Was it not my namesake, Tenysson, somewhere in the 'Idylls > of the King' > Dear Chacha, Unfortunately, I haven't read Idylls of the King. But if I had done so, I would not have remembe

Re: [Goanet] Ayurved vs Allopath

2009-06-15 Thread Santosh Helekar
Vivian, I don't know what or who gave you this impression, but what you assume below is not true. Modern scientific medicine aims to cure all diseases by first discovering their causes, and then addressing them directly. In this manner it has been able able to cure most dreaded diseases of the

Re: [Goanet] Dalit Christians Calls on Churches to end discrimination

2009-06-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
Since Mr. R. L. Francis is now on Goanet, perhaps, he would like to respond to the defamatory allegations made against him some time back in this public forum. Here is the relevant quote and link: "R L Francis is an old disgruntled hand. He has no credibility and no following. He sole claim to

Re: [Goanet] Ayurved vs Allopath

2009-06-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 6/17/09, Mario Goveia wrote: > > >From my knowledge, regardless of how the term came > about, I don't see it used as a disparaging term anymore, at > least among many, though obviously not all, "real" American > physicians, i.e. MDs and DOs. > Mario, Yes, unfortunately, the term "

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition Trinity

2009-06-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 6/20/09, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > > It is nice to know that the members of the 'The Inquisition > Trinity' named by Fred, none of them is a historian. > Yet individuals who condemned my writings were > referring (without reading) the writings of these > individuals whom Fred gave a 

Re: [Goanet] Homeopathy is effective

2009-06-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
The claims made in the post quoted below regarding homeopathy are bogus. Here are the facts. There is no objective evidence for any disease being cured by homeopathy in the medical literature. The scientifically discredited homeopathic "principle" of similars has nothing to do with the immune

Re: [Goanet] Oh Historians, History, Church, and Inquisition

2009-06-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 6/20/09, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न wrote: > >As Gilbert has pointed out, neither the widely-quoted Dellon > nor Buchanan were historians. > This is a thoughtless assertion. These individuals were eyewitnesses and reporters of history as it happened, or as it was perceive

Re: [Goanet] G’bye Goa -- Indo-Aryans-3: HERALD (Goa), June 21, 2009

2009-06-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 6/20/09, Valmiki Faleiro wrote: > > After the first wave of Indo-Aryans in Goa but somewhere in > between the multiple > waves that followed from North India, summarized as “The > Second Wave,” arrived > the Paddye Bhats (priestly Brahmins) directly by sea from > the city-state of Lag

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition

2009-06-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
The following post of Gilbert contains inane falsehoods. Without knowing, understanding or remembering anything about what Fr. Basilio Monteiro and I have read and written, he is fabricating imaginary nonsense or confabulating from his failing memory. Basilio will likely ignore his garbage. Bu

Re: [Goanet] Dalit Christians Calls on Churches to end discrimination

2009-06-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
The accuser Marshall has now escalated his defamatory allegations against the accused R. L. Francis without being personally provoked by the latter in any way. I hope Mr. Francis responds to these libelous charges against him. The accuser appears to deny that he is engaging in wanton defamation

Re: [Goanet] Homeopathy is effective

2009-06-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
The information provided below on two people who are considered authorities on homeopathy is disturbing. It appears that one does not have to undertake any kind of formal education and training in homeopathy in order to be considered an authority on it. One guy has a master's degree in public h

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition Trinity

2009-06-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
ation. > Please add to this discussion with facts (if you have > any). > Gilbert - is not the topic of this thread, however much > you may like to change the subject. > > Regards, GL >   > >  Santosh Helekar > > I don't know how Gilbert knows

Re: [Goanet] CONTROVERSY: 'Goa Inquisition was most merciless and cruel' -- Richard Zimler

2009-06-22 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Goanet News wrote: > > 'Goa Inquisition was most merciless > and cruel' >     > September 14, 2005 > What qualifies as Goanet News? In addition to this one, I noticed that separately a Wikipedia article has been posted as Goanet News. Is Frederick Noronha in charge of r

Re: [Goanet] My friend, a funny looking fellow

2009-06-22 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 6/22/09, JoeGoaUk wrote: > > Next, I wanted to ask ’How you recognised me in the > middle of the night?’ > But how could I? > I could not understand his language nor he could understand > mine. >   JoeGoaUK, You don't realize that you have a distinctive smell, and your friend has a

Re: [Goanet] Inquisition

2009-06-23 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: >   > What Frederick Noronha, now Maurice Machado and myself have > written is antithetical to the image of the Goa Inquisition > promoted by some Goan Catholics and Hindus. Individuals like > Santosh could better serve by working to modulate the > hat

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition

2009-06-25 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Mario Goveia wrote: > > I looked in vain in for any evidence that the Inquisition > had anything to do with Christians being attacked in India > the last couple of years, or to support Gilbert's assertion, > "More Christians likely were killed for their religion in > those ep

Re: [Goanet] Goa's Freedom Fighters - Only one

2009-06-25 Thread Santosh Helekar
Actually, according to one independent source posted on Goanet as just another version of history, the lone Goan patriot is a Chinese national quite happily serving under the communist dictatorial special administrative control of the government of China. Everybody else is a traitor, and ironic

Re: [Goanet] Adv. Satish Sonak wecome speech on May 24 2009 "We Love Ayurveda"

2009-06-28 Thread Santosh Helekar
When it comes to human health and safety, patriotism, nationalism, ideology and politics should play no role. Economics should play only a secondary role. It is should be primarily, if not entirely, about how best to prevent and cure illness, and promote health. If the providers of a preventive

Re: [Goanet] Freedom Fighters

2009-06-28 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 6/28/09, J. Colaco < jc> wrote: > > re #3; The death was following an acute (sudden) event. The > term "heart failure" is too general, but this is not the forum > for a discussion on that topic. > I had heard many years ago as a medical student that Nehru died from a ruptured aort

Re: [Goanet] "All system of medicine should work together" Dr. Jindal Dean GMC, Bambolim

2009-06-30 Thread Santosh Helekar
The problem I have with this speech is that it reinforces (I think for diplomatic reasons) popular myths about the drawbacks of conventional medicine vis-a-vis so-called alternative medicine. I believe forthrightness should trump diplomacy in informing the public about how best to take care of the

Re: [Goanet] "All system of medicine should work together" Dr. Jindal Dean GMC, Bambolim

2009-07-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
What Samir says below is not true at all. My responses to his points are interspersed below: --- On Tue, 6/30/09, samir_kele...@yahoo.com wrote: > > 1) it appears that the basis of many of the treatments of > allopathy is > empirical --- that is, it works in most cases. Perhaps, > only in few

Re: [Goanet] Goanet] "All system of medicine should work together" Dr. Jindal Dean GMC, Bambolim

2009-07-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
In this response let me focus on science, and not on how little some MBBS doctor or specialist knows, what some random psychiatrist does, or why Michael Jackson died. Let us stipulate that there are plenty of bad MBBS doctors, unreliable medical experts despite long strings of letters attached

Re: [Goanet] "All system of medicine should work together" Dr. Jindal Dean GMC, Bambolim

2009-07-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
Hi Samir, Thanks. Of course, I am not able to address someone's subjective feelings, personal philosophical positions and religious or spiritual beliefs about life, body and the mind. I can only tell you what the facts are, and what science is all about. The evidence for the fact that the bodi

Re: [Goanet] "All system of medicine should work together" Dr. Jindal Dean GMC, Bambolim

2009-07-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
My comments are interspersed. --- On Sat, 7/4/09, samir_kele...@yahoo.com wrote: > > What you see is what you get. You are looking for chemicals, and you >will > see chemicals only. > The natural world is made up of chemicals. No scientist has found any natural phenomenon or object on earth

Re: [Goanet] "All system of medicine should work together" Dr. Jindal Dean GMC, Bambolim

2009-07-05 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 7/5/09, samir_kele...@yahoo.com wrote: > > It has a mind and consciousness. > Samir, I am not sure I agree with the rest of what you said, but I know that the question of how chemicals produce consciousness is at present completely unanswered. It is what motivates me to do what

Re: [Goanet] Canecos

2009-07-11 Thread Santosh Helekar
Selma, Just a shot in the dark. Since the word caneco refers to a tin mug, perhaps, they meant paupers - panhandlers - begging for alms in tin mugs. In Konknni there is a similar metonym - "cuttichhap" - to derogatorily refer to a poor person who has to beg with a cutti or coconut shell. Chee

Re: [Goanet] Pursuing Homoeopathy

2009-07-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
Here is a link to a nice article on the absurdities of homeopathy by a world-renowned British cancer surgeon and a pre-eminent professor of complementary medicine who has thoroughly reviewed the literature on homeopathy: http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/printable/5100/ I think peopl

Re: [Goanet] Pursuing Homoeopathy

2009-07-14 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 7/13/09, isouza wrote: > > ***I am reading this type of "nice articles" from > 'allopathic' surgeons and physicians, but it is difficult to > "believe" them. Have they studied homeopathy, practised the > principles and compared with 'allopathy', as Dr.S.Chander > Madan, for example, h

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: The Inquisition, a beating stick?

2009-07-14 Thread Santosh Helekar
I am not quite sure what this devil's advocacy of Noronha is all about. Rather, it appears to me that he is trying to paint the Goan historian Anant Priolkar as the devil incarnate. It sure looks like he is doing a shabby hit and run job on this scholar without doing the hard work, himself, of

Re: [Goanet] Pursuing Homoeopathy

2009-07-15 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 7/15/09, isouza wrote: > >Homeopathy requires an individualised treatment. Therefore, patients > cannot be subjected to double-blind trials. > This is exactly the kind of convenient cop out that tells us why this practice is fundamentally unscientific. A double-blind experiment is t

Re: [Goanet] Pursuing Homoeopathy

2009-07-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 7/16/09, isouza wrote: > >Astrology has its own plus points and has to be taken as such. The >Universe >is interconnected, stars and moon have influence on human >beings. I do not accept witchcraft. > This is hilarious. Accepting one unscientific ritual and rejecting another appear

Re: [Goanet] Pursuing Homoeopathy

2009-07-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
Eric is right. Psychiatry until recently, especially before it emerged from the Freudian flights of fancy, was also a quirky quack enterprise. Hopefully, some of us will be able to transform it into a complete science in the near future. Cheers, Santosh --- On Thu, 7/16/09, eric pinto wrote:

Re: [Goanet] DISSECTING HUMAN FUNCTIONS

2009-07-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
The article written by Averthanus L. D'Souza, and appended in the post below, is propagating bogus information regarding the medical aspects of homosexuality. This bearing of false witness is unconscionable. Homosexuality is not regarded as an abnormality or disorder of any kind. The claim that

Re: [Goanet] Pursuing Homoeopathy

2009-07-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 7/16/09, eric pinto wrote: > >I hope I offfered solace to both sides. > Eric provided solace only to one side. Indeed, he extended my position further by suggesting that what we are dealing with in respect of all the sundry alternative nostrums is entirely mental. But nothing coul

Re: [Goanet] cedric prakash

2009-07-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
The following is a very interesting perspective. It reinforces my sense of disillusionment towards activists who claim to be fighting for various left-wing and right-wing causes. The following excerpt is particularly illuminating in this regard: "Prakash and his band somehow seemed to convey t

Re: [Goanet] Goa - Inquisition

2009-07-18 Thread Santosh Helekar
I understand that people left the City of Goa during this and other periods because of cholera and other kinds of tropical epidemics, which disproportionately affected the Europeans. I believe during this time, in particular, a severe epidemic of influenza was ravaging the world. What is the purpo

Re: [Goanet] Fr Cedric Prakash

2009-07-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 7/19/09, Marshall Mendonza wrote: > > Persons like Fr Cedric Prakash or Medha Patkar are a > rarity.They prefer to light a candle to banish the darkness >rather > than play politics or preach or just criticise. > This is a very disingenuous assertion. Fr. Cedric Prakash is

Re: [Goanet] Fr Cedric Prakash

2009-07-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 7/20/09, isouza wrote: > >His social and political ministry is authorized by the Bishops of India. > Sorry to note that mixing of religion with politics has official authorization. I hope those who want to promote secularism in India would speak out against it. Cheers, Santosh

Re: [Goanet] Girann (eclipse)

2009-07-22 Thread Santosh Helekar
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to

Re: [Goanet] Girann (eclipse)

2009-07-22 Thread Santosh Helekar
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to

Re: [Goanet] Fr. Cedric Prakash

2009-07-22 Thread Santosh Helekar
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to

Re: [Goanet] Girann (eclipse)

2009-07-23 Thread Santosh Helekar
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to

Re: [Goanet] Deccan Herald interview

2010-05-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
Gilbert wrote: > >Not too long ago, I thought there was progress on the truth > about the Inquisition, when Teo headlined one of his > original post / thread as "Inquisition for Colonial > Disciplining."? > This is a strange assertion. How can one claim progress is being made on the truth about t

Re: [Goanet] Deccan Herald interview

2010-05-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
The post appended below is not very intellectually honest. There is nothing in the answers provided by Teotoniobab in the interview that can be considered a misrepresentation. The only thing that is wrong with the interview as published is its inappropriate title. The burden of justifying the ac

Re: [Goanet] ''superior'' Indians

2010-05-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
I am not quite sure if the original post in this thread was meant to criticize the abominable caste system or the people of India, by implying that they were inferior to Jews. But if the latter is the case, I suggest that Antonio familiarize himself with the creative artistes and thinkers that I

Re: [Goanet] Deccan Herald Interview

2010-05-05 Thread Santosh Helekar
Because of the wild accusations that the non-historian Gilbert has made against the Goan historian Teotonio De Souza concerning the latter's Deccan Herald Interview I had asked Gilbert to provide us with specific evidence for the following: 1. That Teotonio R. De Souza misrepresented historical

Re: [Goanet] Deccan Herald Interview

2010-05-07 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 5/6/10, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > >It appears you quote what others parrot without the authors providing >>specific references and cross-checks. > Isn't this exactly what Gilbert is doing here? Has he provided specific quotes to back up his own wild speculations and accusations a

Re: [Goanet] Deccan Herald Interview

2010-05-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
Hi Gilbert, You have responded to my concern regarding the Inquisition Museum, but you have not responded to my request to provide real factual data to back up your wild accusations against a Goan historian and unsupported speculations about Goan history. Could you please do that? Not doing so

Re: [Goanet] BMC's 'Hindutva' diktat upsets schools

2010-05-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 5/21/10, Marshall Mendonza quoted: > > "While reviewing proposals from BMC-aided schools, we came across many > >missionary schools who had written to us in English. And many corporators > >observed that while these schools approach the BMC for aid, they do not > >adhere to Hindu tr

Re: [Goanet] ENDLESS VIOLENCE AGAINST CHRISTIAN WOMEN OF KANDHAMAL

2010-05-23 Thread Santosh Helekar
Why are these researchers and activists ignoring violence against women of other religions? Why this selective religious propaganda? Cheers, Santosh --- On Sun, 5/23/10, Marshall Mendonza wrote: > > ENDLESS VIOLENCE AGAINST CHRISTIAN > WOMEN OF KANDHAMAL > by Santosh Digal > > After anti-Chri

Re: [Goanet] When life begins

2010-05-23 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 5/23/10, Ivo da C.Souza wrote: > > Dear Goannetters, > Dr.Jerome Lejeune teaches us when human life begins scientifically. > The above falsehood and the accompanying political testimonies were posted here a few months ago. At that time I had posted a thorough refutation of this non

Re: [Goanet] ENDLESS VIOLENCE AGAINST CHRISTIAN WOMEN OF KANDHAMAL

2010-05-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
The post appended below reveals a lack of understanding of the problem of politicization of sociological research, and an attempt to inject further a baseless speculation along religious lines. Santosh Digal is a journalist based in the Philippines. Social research driven by narrow selfish pol

Re: [Goanet] ENDLESS VIOLENCE AGAINST CHRISTIAN WOMEN..

2010-05-25 Thread Santosh Helekar
The post appended below indicates that its author has either overlooked the evidence I have provided in this thread, or does not know what is meant by proof or evidence. Please see my previous post in this thread for evidence of selective religious bias in the original propaganda piece posted he

Re: [Goanet] "these f****g overseas Goans from the cozy comfort of their luxury.."

2010-05-26 Thread Santosh Helekar
To what extent are resident Goans who do not consider themselves Indians and view Indian heroes with contempt, a problem for Goa? Cheers, Santosh --- On Wed, 5/26/10, Pandu Lampiao wrote: > > One should have been angry for a variety of reasons: the > Gandi statue > in Old Goa (what is this idi

Re: [Goanet] Is XXX an Agent of Mine Owners and the Politicians Who Want to Sell Minerals for a Song to Multinationals for their Personal Benefit?

2010-06-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
I strongly object to this smearing and denigration of Nandakumar Kamat by Augusto Pinto for selfish person political reasons. Arundhati Roy has been rightly and rightfully criticized for her advocacy of violent Naxalite extremists by Nandakumar, Selma and others because they pose as grave a thre

Re: [Goanet] Is XXX an Agent of Mine Owners trying to buy Mineral Resources cheaply?

2010-06-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
I have no idea what the purpose of the post appended below is. It appears that in it new allegations have been leveled against Nandakumar, along with modest praise of him. I also noticed the gratuitous inclusion of baseless taunts against unrelated individuals, including one against a hypothetic

Re: [Goanet] Ratol poisoning

2010-06-15 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 6/14/10, soter wrote: > > Conventional medicine (Allopathy) claims there is little chance of >survival > from Ratol poisoning. It claims that liver transplant is the only > option. Is this true? > Where and by whom were these claims made? > >Is there no alternative medicine that wo

Re: [Goanet] Ratol poisoning

2010-06-15 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 6/15/10, Frederick Noronha wrote: > > PS: It's not fair to take the crank elements out of > alternative forms of medicine, and compare these with the > more trustworthy ones of allopathy. > How would you detect the crank elements of alternative medicine? What distinguishes them fro

Re: [Goanet] Knocks On The Door: It’s The Newspap er Boy

2010-06-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 6/16/10, Marshall Mendonza wrote: > > The recording of the meeting is up on > YouTube > The speakers in the above recording entitled "India's War on People" quite brazenly introduce us to a version of history and a p

Re: [Goanet] HINDUISATION of USA - UK - CANADA - EUROPE - AUSTRALIA - NEWZEALAND.

2010-06-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
What is the purpose of this propaganda piece? Does he want to propagate his own brand of religion, denigrate India, malign Hindus and Catholics who are not like him, stereotype and ridicule people from different Indian states? What? Why does he deny the fact that India is a secular country? Che

Re: [Goanet] Chauvinism V/s Patriotism - Adv. Radharao Gracias - Herald - June 25, 2010 - Comments

2010-06-26 Thread Santosh Helekar
I am always amazed why people counter hyperbolic nonsense on one fringe with something even worse from the opposite fringe. In this ridiculous article it looks like chauvinism is countered by self-loathing, using a rather constricted definition of greatness and progress. If, as the silly line of

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-06-29 Thread Santosh Helekar
I am always amazed why people counter hyperbolic nonsense on one fringe with something even worse from the opposite fringe. In this article it looks like chauvinism is countered by self-loathing, using a rather constricted definition of greatness and progress. If, as the silly line of argument i

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-06-30 Thread Santosh Helekar
Thoughtful valid self-criticism is always welcome. Indeed it is essential for any kind of progress to occur. It is a hallmark of rational thought and scientific inquiry. But the article in question has very little to offer in this vein. On the contrary, as Amita Kanekar so nicely pointed out, i

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
One of the misfortunes of India is Indians like Nascy who have never had any attachment to their motherland or their fellow countrymen, let alone any sense of pride, responsibility or duty towards them. In my opinion, along with corruption and other ills, the disgraceful attitude displayed, time

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
Nascy, Here is why it is you, in addition to the corrupt politicians and some irresponsible Indians, who bring shame to India. 1. You are completely clueless about the great stalwarts of 20th century India, who were mathematical and scientific geniuses, and whose work contributed to the techno

Re: [Goanet] Who dunnit? A Eureka moment.

2010-07-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
The purpose and meaning of the following post are a mystery. Even after reading it twice, I do not have answers to following questions: 1. What is the eureka moment? 2. Where was the temple? 3. What structure stands in its place now? 4. What are the names of the respected Goanetters mentioned

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
As I have said before, criticism has to be legitimate and substantive. It has to result from a genuine appraisal of facts. Criticism borne out of ignorance, prejudice or political bias is worthless. It misdirects our efforts at finding remedies, and contributes to the perpetuation of ignorance a

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
Good to know that, unlike Nascy, Jim has heard of two Indian scientists mentioned by me. But from the earlier claim of zero contributions by Indians we now have the goal post being moved to lack of proportional contribution. Is this supposed to be contribution per capita or contribution per capi

Re: [Goanet] A new leaf in Goa's prehistory Linear cupules of Bambolim>History of human colonization of Tiswadi now goes back to mesolithic (10000 years BCE) period

2010-07-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
Nandakumar, A couple of questions. First, are you preparing to send these findings for publication in a peer-reviewed archeological journal? That would be the appropriate thing to do to validate your findings. Second, I had read that the land of Goa was under the sea until about 1 B.C.E.

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
Nascy, What you have written below and in an accompanying post is utter rubbish. You are fixated on what people eat, and how they dress. If they eat and dress like you, you call them civilized. Talk about mono-cultural, this is mono-maniacal stupidity. I am quite certain that the Australian pro

Re: [Goanet] India the hype...

2010-07-05 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 7/5/10, Bernado Colaco wrote: > >Like Santosh remarks to Nasci - I am ashamed of being an indian. > What I said was that it was people like Nascy who bring shame to India. Like Jose, I did not know that Bernado considered himself an Indian. I thought that he was either a Portuguese

Re: [Goanet] Who dunnit? A Eureka moment (part 2)

2010-07-06 Thread Santosh Helekar
I read and re-read this part 2 of eureka moment. I still do not know what the eureka moment is. I also do not know why Gilbert keeps copying and pasting verbatim some of the same stuff he had posted on Goanet not very long ago. Please see his earlier post entitled "Recapping Goa's History" in Ja

Re: [Goanet] chauvanism versus patriotism

2010-07-07 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Tue, 7/6/10, radharao gracias wrote: > > I must compliment Santosh Helekar, at the outset, for > proving me right. He has taken over the leadership of the chauvanists. > I feel vindicated by the response that has come from fellow > Indians settled abroad. > Vindicated?

Re: [Goanet] chauvanism versus patriotism

2010-07-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Wed, 7/7/10, radharao gracias wrote: > >I fail to understand whether Santosh Helekar is deliberately >misinterpreting >the contents of my article or he lacks knowledge of the >English language. In my article, I have stated: "Our contribution to >civilization, (an

Re: [Goanet] Goa in the gutter (addendum) and chauvanism versus patriotism debate on Goanet

2010-07-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 7/8/10, pinheiro wrote: > > Two observation on these debates: > > Are we Goans Pseudointellectual? > > Goanet is the only place wherein you can even strip and > slap (with words) the  Moderator/Admin and you are > still not thrown out of the forum. > My two observations regarding

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
criminal action. Cheers, Santosh --- On Fri, 7/9/10, Jim Fernandes wrote: > > The reason I am writing about this on GoaNet is because, a > fellow GoaNetter named Santosh Helekar included me in this > non-GoaNet related group, when I responded to a thread on > GoaNet. He had

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
Shri Fernandes, These bogus rules and etiquettes of yours are a figment of your imagination. Goanet has no such rules. It is a public forum. Discussions on it can be continued in any other forum or mailing list. What a private free citizen does in this regard is his/her own business. Nobody can

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-10 Thread Santosh Helekar
hat can be done > had they to > run loose and amuck on more widely-read fora. > > Only problem is: when someone wants to get off this > 'spammers list' > and he's dragged back kicking and squealing everytime. I > think this is > as unfair as laughing at the

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-10 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 7/10/10, Edward Verdes wrote: > > I had asked to be off this list but still I am there..my email ID is being > >flashed on goemchim xapotom and also another recently formed group...though > >am no longer subscribed to these groups. > Like Admin Noronha, Eddie is telling you a falseh

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-10 Thread Santosh Helekar
The Wikipedia definitions of email harvesting and email spam below make it crystal clear how Admin Noronha is distorting these meanings to badmouth those who like being subscribed to alternative Goan mailing lists, such as Goenchim Xapotam, or be on a cc list consisting of Goans who have quit Go

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-11 Thread Santosh Helekar
Francis (FCA) Rodriguez wrote: > >Only a threat to inform his employer stopped the dysfunctional Helekar from >>spamming me too. He does not believe in a "Do Not Spam" policy. Helekar is >>not a don't - just a can't! > Please note that FCA Rodriguez has found this an opportunity to abuse me bec

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-11 Thread Santosh Helekar
Edward Verdes wrote: > >Pls tell goanetters what falsehoods I have spread here? > Eddie, The falsehoods you have spread and are spreading now are the following: 1. That your email ID is flashed on GX and AGD. 2. That someone can get your email ID by simply signing onto a Yahoo account. 3. That

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-11 Thread Santosh Helekar
Eddie, Here are answers to your questions. --- On Sun, 7/11/10, Edward Verdes wrote: > > You have still not answered my question why even part of my > email address which can be replied by the group members > is appearing in GX and AGD of which I am not a member? > The reason your name (not yo

[Goanet] Other Goan forums

2010-07-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
Admin Noronha wrote: > >While nobody seems to how to get off the lists, I'm willing to bet that >nobody knows either of how one can get ON these lists! As of now, it >is a priviledge of only a select few. Either you are born into it, >or... > >For those who are curious, check out: >http://groups.ya

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 7/11/10, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > > It is so easy to bad-mouth others. Goans make a virtue to those >crab-like > traits with convoluted arguments and sophistry. >   Why is Gilbert badmounthing and abusing other Goans and other Goan forums on Goanet. Is he afflicted with the crab me

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
Bosco wrote: > >Rico, Eddie, Jim, etc are only expressing themselves too simply. > Does Goanet consider personal attacks against fellow Goans by individuals such as Francis, Gilbert, etc. expressing themselves too simply? Cheers, Santosh

Re: [Goanet] Rupee signs and Indians

2010-07-18 Thread Santosh Helekar
Is Rajan Portuguese? Cheers, Santosh --- On Sun, 7/18/10, Rajan P. Parrikar wrote: > > Gee, I guess after the invention of "zero" the next great > invention of Indians is the rupee sign.  Great work, > Indians.  We are all so proud of you. > > > r >

Re: [Goanet] Rupee signs and Indians

2010-07-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
Is Admin Noronha fabricating as usual again? Nobody said being Portuguese equals anti-India. The question was asked because some Goans are or consider themselves Portuguese. The question was prompted by the following remark of Rajan: "Great work, Indians. We are all so proud of you." One who

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 7/19/10, Jim Fernandes wrote: > >It is not the figment of my imagination, but a click on the > below URL might help Mr Helekar to refresh his neurons with > GoaNet rules: > > http://goanet.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=9 > Once again, Shri Fernandes is spout

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
Shri Fernandes, It is clear that you are not able to quote a single Goanet rule which explicitly states that I cannot post my Goanet post anywhere else, nor that I have to ask your permission to do it, as you claimed. So now you are resorting to this kabuki dance of asking me to search for key

Re: [Goanet] Cross Pollination

2010-07-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
some days ago: "These bogus rules and etiquettes of yours are a figment of your imagination. Goanet has no such rules." Santosh Helekar referring to the specific fictitious rules and etiquettes that Shri Fernandes was fantasizing about. Please note the phrases "bogus rules and

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