[google-appengine] delete app

2008-10-04 Thread Abhi Batra
is it possible to delete an application from the net once made. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To uns

[google-appengine] Re: python 2.6

2008-10-04 Thread Abhi Batra
thanks alexander. @Jorge- had you noticed i was cut off from the system for quite a while and so was a little unaware and i don't think that is so unacceptable --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google A

[google-appengine] Re: www [mydomain.org] Already used, please remove previous mapping first.

2008-10-04 Thread Brade
I'm having this problem too. Very frustrating. I bought the domain thru google apps, so everything should be primed to work, but when I try to add one of my app engine apps to the "www" subdomain, it gives the error message. I even logged into the enom panel and removed the "www" cname record, but

[google-appengine] Re: GAE Obfuscator?

2008-10-04 Thread Jorge Vargas
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 3:32 AM, Davide Rognoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Search the word "obfuscate" > http://evolvingtrends.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/google-app-engine-threat-or-opportunity/ > > """\ > There is one other serious issue with the Google appengine: relying on > a predatory compan

[google-appengine] Re: Why Google App Engine is broken and what Google must do to fix it.

2008-10-04 Thread Jorge Vargas
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Aral Balkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just wrote up a blog post summarizing the biggest issues I have with > App Engine: > http://aralbalkan.com/1504 > > If you are developing real-world/commercial apps with App Engine, > please add your thoughts to the disc

[google-appengine] Re: python 2.6

2008-10-04 Thread Jorge Vargas
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Abhi Batra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have resumed work on app engine after a long break and had to > redownload the SDKs. I got python 2.6 and the server doesn't seem to > load. If it is supported then can someone please post me the exact > procedure to run t

[google-appengine] Re: Can User API perform single sign in for other Google web services?

2008-10-04 Thread friedger
Hi, Does that mean that a user can use a different email adress for my application and for AuthSub? If yes is there a way to check whether the they are different? Cheers, Friedger On 25 Sep., 20:17, Jeff S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The App Engine users API is separate from the authorization

[google-appengine] Re: No module named os

2008-10-04 Thread Bruno Mihira
I don't know but there is a creepy bug that some basic api functions stoped working after this update. On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 2:00 PM, David Koblas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not sure about the Mac OS "bug", but on Windows with 1.1.4 there was a > problem with os.unlink not being defined for a

[google-appengine] Re: python 2.6

2008-10-04 Thread Alexander Kojevnikov
SDK requires Python 2.5 On Oct 4, 9:02 pm, Abhi Batra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have resumed work on app engine after a long break and had to > redownload the SDKs. I got python 2.6 and the server doesn't seem to > load. If it is supported then can someone please post me the exact > procedur

[google-appengine] Re: Anything like a Model Constructor?

2008-10-04 Thread paul.atwork
Yes, it would. So I might suggest a Factory class to generate the new object. Where the factory sets initial values etc on a new object, and returns a new object in a consistent state to the calling client code. (FYI: See Eric Evans, Domain Driven Design for more) On Aug 7, 4:11 pm, "Jorge Var

[google-appengine] 1.1.5

2008-10-04 Thread Bruno Mihira
Since I updated the SDK to 1.1.5 it started to show this error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\ext\webapp\__init__.py", line 499, in __call__ handler.get(*groups) File "D:\bruno\workspace\2008.2\Karua\controller\userContro

[google-appengine] Trouble while looking for methods

2008-10-04 Thread Arôxa
hi all, i was looking for the methods of the ListProperty type... didn't find does anybody know where could i find the documentation and a list of all methods/functions of all classes/modules in gae? like the oldie java api... :T thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

[google-appengine] Linking directly to the Google Accounts "new account" page + feature request and UX complaint!

2008-10-04 Thread Alex Vartan
Hi there, Since for many novice users, the idea of logging into a non-Google branded app with a Google account is a bit nonintuitive, I'd like to create a page with some language in my app that says to the effect "Got a Google Account? Sign in by clicking here. / Otherwise, create a new account b

[google-appengine] Re: Why Google App Engine is broken and what Google must do to fix it.

2008-10-04 Thread Nash
Great article Aral, My strong suggestion at this stage to anyone considering GAE for a production, business use DO NOT USE GAE. GAE has significant flaws; these are basic flaws and the time spent writing a work-around to these problems is far too great for very short internet times. Let me add

[google-appengine] Re: Any Site in Production Use ?

2008-10-04 Thread Nash
My strong suggestion at this stage to anyone considering GAE for a production, business use DO NOT USE GAE. GAE has significant flaws; these are basic flaws and the time spent writing a work-around to these problems is far too great for very short internet times. Let me add some basic very neces

[google-appengine] Dev Datastore viewer error When Accessing Any Entities

2008-10-04 Thread baron
I am getting the following error when trying to view any model data in the SDK console dataviewer. I can access the entities via the interactive console without issue but the SDK console throws this error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/GoogleAppEngineLauncher.app/Conte

[google-appengine] Re: Lifestreaming app on GAE?

2008-10-04 Thread Josh Heitzman
You would need to do the data mining and machine learning as either a side task processed a little bit at a time with each page request or you would need a URL whose only purpose in being requested is to allow your algorithm to process to for a bit and then you would need to have a client that jus

[google-appengine] Lifestreaming app on GAE?

2008-10-04 Thread Carlos Hellín
I'm building a lifestreaming app that will involve pulling down lots of feeds for lots of users, and performing data-mining, and machine learning algorithms on the results. It's a good idea to use GAE or has many limitations? for example: lack of cron jobs is a nuisance or for CPU intensive apps I

[google-appengine] Re: Why Google App Engine is broken and what Google must do to fix it.

2008-10-04 Thread Josh Heitzman
This is a good point. This isn't something I care about for the web app I writing at the moment, but I've already there are other apps I've though about doing that I definitely would not want be willing upload non-obfuscated source code for, and I was figuring I'd just have to host those elsewher

[google-appengine] Re: Why Google App Engine is broken and what Google must do to fix it.

2008-10-04 Thread Josh Heitzman
If the entity-groups have a (single) home and there is not any global coordination for transactions that means that there is a single machine in charge of that entity group. Allowing cross entity group transactions does not require that a single machine be in charge of all entities, it just means

[google-appengine] Re: No module named os

2008-10-04 Thread David Koblas
Not sure about the Mac OS "bug", but on Windows with 1.1.4 there was a problem with os.unlink not being defined for another library I was using (it didn't use it, just referenced it). Would it be possible for the Sandboxer to wrap the functions in things that raise exceptions rather than remove

[google-appengine] No module named os

2008-10-04 Thread Ilia Lobsanov
As of the 1.1.5 upgrade, I am getting this error when I try to access my app using the dev server: : No module named os args = ('No module named os',) message = 'No module named os' Any ideas? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you

[google-appengine] Re: Dev Datastore viewer error When Accessing Any Entities

2008-10-04 Thread baron
Disregard. I jumped the gun. Turns out having None in a db.PhoneNumberProperty() doesn't bode well for the SDK console --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group

[google-appengine] Re: Why Google App Engine is broken and what Google must do to fix it.

2008-10-04 Thread Davide Rognoni
The business is the main issues. Search the word "obfuscate" http://evolvingtrends.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/google-app-engine-threat-or-opportunity/ On Oct 3, 8:52 pm, Aral Balkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just wrote up a blog post summarizing the biggest issues I have with > App Engine:ht

[google-appengine] Re: Any Site in Production Use ?

2008-10-04 Thread mitnickcbc
Just let you know that I'm migrating my app to AWS from GAE. The reason is simple, manually quota increase process is not going to work especially without full visibility into all quotas. GAE can scale but doesn't scale now in preview version. I will only check back after it starts charging. On S

[google-appengine] Re: Why Google App Engine is broken and what Google must do to fix it.

2008-10-04 Thread David Symonds
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Josh Heitzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as transactions go, the global coordination is already there at > the entity group level (if it wasn't, then there wouldn't be any > transactions at all). Sure it will be more costly at the entity level > then at t

[google-appengine] Re: Why Google App Engine is broken and what Google must do to fix it.

2008-10-04 Thread Aral Balkan
Hi David, The point of my post is that the "scalable and distributed system" should be just one mode of operation of Google App Engine as it ignores the other 50% use case which is admin and long-running processes. Those do _not_ have to scale. But they are essential. Aral > I fail to see how

[google-appengine] Re: GAE Obfuscator?

2008-10-04 Thread Davide Rognoni
Search the word "obfuscate" http://evolvingtrends.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/google-app-engine-threat-or-opportunity/ """\ There is one other serious issue with the Google appengine: relying on a predatory company like Google to host your startup’s application could be very risky from a business po

[google-appengine] Re: Why Google App Engine is broken and what Google must do to fix it.

2008-10-04 Thread Aral Balkan
@davew: As Sylvain points out, below, the simplest things can cause this. I've had straight-to-template calls cause high CPU errors and, to tell you the truth, even if I could meaningfully profile Django templates, I don't think there's much I could do about it. Especially, as Sylvain states, it

[google-appengine] python 2.6

2008-10-04 Thread Abhi Batra
I have resumed work on app engine after a long break and had to redownload the SDKs. I got python 2.6 and the server doesn't seem to load. If it is supported then can someone please post me the exact procedure to run the dev_appserver in windows --~--~-~--~~~---~--~

[google-appengine] Re: Why Google App Engine is broken and what Google must do to fix it.

2008-10-04 Thread Sylvain
Aral, Great article. I think it summarize very well GAE and its limitations I think you can add other issues : - GQL limitation and particularly with these : * Inequality Filters Are Allowed On One Property Only * Properties In Inequality Filters Must Be Sorted Before Other Sort Orders * missing

[google-appengine] Re: Why Google App Engine is broken and what Google must do to fix it.

2008-10-04 Thread Josh Heitzman
If sharded entity counters can be implemented at the application level then they can be implemented at the data store level as well. Sharded counters implemented at the application level in python code have scalability limits (see referenced blog post for details) that are lower when then they wo