Re: [google-appengine] Remote API - Java - Namespaces

2011-04-21 Thread Robert Kluin
Not sure about Java, but in Python using set_namespace seems to work as expected for me On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 09:14, Mike Schlanser wrote: > Is there a way to use namespaces in the RemoteAPI ? > > Thanks, > Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl

Re: [google-appengine] datastore flashback?

2011-04-21 Thread Robert Kluin
What you are explaining sounds exactly like what would happen if your overwriting a new entity with an older entity. First, you might want to make game_id the key name or id. That way you can fetch by key inside a transaction. Second, you might want to use your move_count property to ignore stal

Re: [google-appengine] Need little help from GAE experts :)

2011-04-21 Thread Robert Kluin
There is no more integration between App Engine and Google Docs / Cal services than between any other hosting provider and Google Docs / Cal services. You might want to search for this, then ask if need, on one of the gdata lists; I'm guessing this question has been asked a thousand times before.

Re: [google-appengine] Massive EC2 outage

2011-04-21 Thread Robert Kluin
Hopefully they can get everything sorted out soon. Depends on your app, but having a bit of downtime sprinkled across the year in small doses is probably easier to handle than a massive outage that shuts down a site for a day. Any chance a Googler could comment about how well distributed and inde

RE: [google-appengine] Appropriate way to save hundreds of thousands of ids per user

2011-04-21 Thread David Parks
I don't know your intended use of these ID's, my thoughts here are limited to assumed use, feel free to ignore thoughts that are off base for your use case. If, when you query for the IDs you are looking for *all* the IDs, then just serialize them into one field and retrieve them as one record

[google-appengine] Re: datastore flashback?

2011-04-21 Thread SkyMountain
The entity will be update once every 5~10 seconds(when the user play a move), and every update is step by step. Their is no concurrently update and no contention. So that transaction won't work for this problem, right? besides, their is a limitation that we can not start a query in transaction, so

Re: [google-appengine] Massive EC2 outage

2011-04-21 Thread saidimu apale
FWIW, here's DotCloud's take on the outage which is still affecting them: http://blog.dotcloud.com/working-around-the-ec2-outage saidimu On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM, saidimu apale wrote: > > > > It sure helps that you have a batph

Re: [google-appengine] Massive EC2 outage

2011-04-21 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM, saidimu apale wrote: > > It sure helps that you have a batphone to the GAE datastore team. Or is that > a different Jeff Schnitzer? Don't interpret that too literally. A couple of the Google developers have been receptive to some api changes that would make Objec

[google-appengine] Re: Massive EC2 outage

2011-04-21 Thread vlad
I wish appengine outages would make national news. When that happens GAE is a success story. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this g

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Massive EC2 outage

2011-04-21 Thread saidimu apale
It's just a matter of time before GAE has another major outage. Will that materially change your decision to be on GAE? I don't think it should; the cloud is young and reliability is not (yet, if ever) at "dial-tone" reliability. saidimu On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Calvin wrote: > Schadenf

Re: [google-appengine] Massive EC2 outage

2011-04-21 Thread saidimu apale
> I've been there and I'm happy to leave this job to the professionals. It sure helps that you have a batphone to the GAE datastore team. Or is that a different Jeff Schnitzer? saidimu On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: > Easy to say, not so easy to do :-) > > All that fra

[google-appengine] Re: urlfetch - deadline clarification + two issues

2011-04-21 Thread Mars
Thanks for pointing that out Joshua. There's actually a request for that already, and it's been starred by 19 people: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=2848 Please star this issue if you want to increase the 10s limit of urlfetch. Cheers, Mars On Apr 21, 1:01 pm, Mars

[google-appengine] Re: urlfetch - deadline clarification + two issues

2011-04-21 Thread Mars
Thanks for pointing that out Joshua. There's actually a request for that already, and it's been starred by 19 people: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=2848 Please star this issue if you want to increase the 10s limit of urlfetch. Cheers, Mars On Apr 20, 1:49 pm, Joshua

[google-appengine] Need little help from GAE experts :)

2011-04-21 Thread Adnan Doric P.
Hello all, I have a question concerning the Google Apps integration in Google App Engine (Calendar & Docs). Let say a company admin subscribe to my services via my web application hosted in GAE. That company becomes a customer of my webapp and can have multiple employees. 1) Can I automati

[google-appengine] Re: Massive EC2 outage

2011-04-21 Thread Calvin
Schadenfreude was exactly the word I was going to use when I considered posting this news. I love that word. I've got to say that I feel really good after reading the outage postmortem yesterday and then hearing this news this morning. Whenever there's an App Engine outage, or increase in erro

[google-appengine] Remote API - Java - Namespaces

2011-04-21 Thread Mike Schlanser
Is there a way to use namespaces in the RemoteAPI ? Thanks, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-

[google-appengine] Development Server Datastore issue

2011-04-21 Thread Josh F.
All I did was delete my local_db.bin file and then clean the project in eclipse. Now I can't get my Datastore to work...this happens on a jsp file that works perfectly fine once deployed. The file was working fine until I deleted local_db.bin and then it started throwing this error: HTTP ERROR 5

[google-appengine] datastore flashback?

2011-04-21 Thread SkyMountain
hi, every body. I built an app on GAE, which run about a year now. But for months, I found a strange phenomenon: the entity in the datastore, will flashback several times a day. Let me tell you the detail. It's a website for Go game, I use an entity to save the game record. Every time, when user p

[google-appengine] app engine

2011-04-21 Thread silambu silambarasank
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Re: [google-appengine] Massive EC2 outage

2011-04-21 Thread Derrick Schneider
Not easy, sure, though EC2 has plenty of support for different availability zones (as does RDS) so it's not impossible (though you pay normal bandwidth charges between availability zones, as opposed to getting it for free). So I guess it boils down to figuring out how much outages cost you. In the

Re: [google-appengine] Massive EC2 outage

2011-04-21 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
Easy to say, not so easy to do :-) All that frantic running-around-in-panic that GAE engineers and ops people do when something goes wonky inside the datastore? That would be you right now, trying to figure out how to failover your database (and any other persistent data) to a different datacente

Re: [google-appengine] Massive EC2 outage

2011-04-21 Thread Derrick Schneider
While it's certainly unfortunate for companies that have bet on EC2, they'd be smarter to distribute their servers a bit so that a single data center outage does not take out their entire company. On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: > I'm not suggesting schadenfreude here, but

[google-appengine] Massive EC2 outage

2011-04-21 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
I'm not suggesting schadenfreude here, but for all those folks doubting the viability of appengine for reliability reasons: http://eu.techcrunch.com/2011/04/21/amazon-ec2-goes-down-taking-with-it-reddit-foursquare-and-quora/ Amazon's North Virginia datacenter tripped and fell over in the early AM

[google-appengine] Re: Is Entity Id with Ancestor unique for auto-generated long ids?

2011-04-21 Thread Ugorji
Cool. Thanks Simon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For m

[google-appengine] Re: Is Entity Id with Ancestor unique for auto-generated long ids?

2011-04-21 Thread Simon Knott
Hi, As mentioned, App Engine will use a separate counter - uniqueness is only guaranteed within the same entity group. Cheers, Simon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@go

[google-appengine] Re: Is Entity Id with Ancestor unique for auto-generated long ids?

2011-04-21 Thread Ugorji
Hi Scott, Thanks for the reply. I understand that in practice, there is no requirement that the id's have to be unique (so long as the entire key is unique including the parent). The allocateIds function even suggests this by requiring that we pass parent key when reserving ids. However, I was

[google-appengine] Re: Is Entity Id with Ancestor unique for auto-generated long ids?

2011-04-21 Thread Simon Knott
The long IDs generated for children are unique within that Entity Group, but can be identical across Entity Groups. This is possible because the *key* of the child contains the identifier of the parent - i.e. the entire key is unique within the datastore. In short, the examples you have given

[google-appengine] Is Entity Id with Ancestor unique for auto-generated long ids?

2011-04-21 Thread Ugorji
This is with regards to auto-generated long ids. If I have an entity which has an ancestor, will the auto-generated long id of my entity be unique? For example, is it guaranteed that the following entities will never occur? Parent:7/Child:1 Parent:8/Child:1 -- You received this message becaus