[google-appengine] Re: Endless cron job

2011-12-20 Thread David Lindsey
Thanks, I will do that as soon as I can schedule it. On Dec 21, 9:34 am, Amy Unruh wrote: > David, > > It looks likely that a previous version of the app had a cron.yaml with > crons specified.  If the current/default version does not include a > cron.yaml file at all, the deployment of the curre

[google-appengine] Re: Timeouts to Paypal

2011-12-20 Thread Vivek Puri
I was still getting timeouts and finally put a proxy in place to avoid further issues. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/oJXkjJAhJA0

Re: [google-appengine] Re: App Engine Chat Time!

2011-12-20 Thread Ron Malen
Ok, Are you sure that will fix the problem? How do I setup billing and enable the application? On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Ikai Lan (Google) wrote: > Ron, > > Your app is a free app that is way over datastore ops quota. You're > receiving "server error" because you need to enable billing and

[google-appengine] Re: Timeouts to Paypal

2011-12-20 Thread John Wheeler
Scratch the last comment. For anyone else having the problem, you'll need to set your connection/read timeout to 10+ seconds on URL fetch. I had it set to 5 seconds, and that is not enough. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group.

[google-appengine] Importing GAE code into Eclipse

2011-12-20 Thread Mohsen Vakilian
I imported the code at into Eclipse but have a hard time resolve all the compilation problems. I've successfully ran the "dist" target of the ANT script at . The main problem is that GAE has many dependencies and some of the dependencies ar

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Endless cron job

2011-12-20 Thread Amy Unruh
David, It looks likely that a previous version of the app had a cron.yaml with crons specified. If the current/default version does not include a cron.yaml file at all, the deployment of the current version of the app would not have changed the previous cron definitions. Try deploying with a cro

[google-appengine] Re: Timeouts to Paypal

2011-12-20 Thread John Wheeler
Is there any update to this? Apparently you can not call PayPal from the development server either. When I try to call api-3t.paypal.com I get SocketTimeoutExceptions 100% of the time from the development server. If I run the same URLFetch code (which I've implemented as java.net.URL HttpUrlCon

[google-appengine] Re: Endless cron job

2011-12-20 Thread David Lindsey
Yes, there's a job in the cron tab, I posted it above: scheduled_process Run processing of scheduled uploads every 1 minutes every 1 minutes (UTC) 2011/12/20 09:53:17 on time Success but how did it get there and how do I kill it? As to the other questions, I'm not the only person who has wo

Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE for a web based MMORPG

2011-12-20 Thread Gopal Patel
you can compare a massive game to a version control system, with each file being their players, with state of game being state of directory. with that said, just study how git works. http://whygitisbetterthanx.com/ On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Kaan Soral wrote: > My initial idea was to keep

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Feature Request I Think....

2011-12-20 Thread Chris Ramsdale
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 7:27 PM, James X Nelson wrote: > I definitely, absolutely love the idea of having appengine internally > route foo.com/api to api.foo.appspot.com. An under-the-covers targeting > of different apps/versions is the only way I can think of to get ssl for > the whole app witho

[google-appengine] 1.6.1 Windows Development Issue

2011-12-20 Thread JimJty
I recently upgraded my sdk to 1.6.1 on Windows Vista and I now get an error anytime I try to run the devserver. The error is below. I have tried reinstalling/rebooting and get the same issue with every app, including the sample guestbook app. I run: dev_appserver.py guestbook Traceback (most rece

Re: [google-appengine] Endless cron job

2011-12-20 Thread Greg Darke (Google)
The datastore admin job does not use cron. Have you checked the cron tab in the admin-console to see if there are any cron tasks enabled in your app? Have you recently performed a migration from Master/Slave to High Replication and had cron enabled on the application? If so, you will need to disa

Re: [google-appengine] The 'go' runtime is only supported for apps using the High Replication Datastore.

2011-12-20 Thread Andreas Reuleaux
Andrius A writes: > You know when you create new app in GAE you can select datastore type, I > think you have selected MS. > On Dec 20, 2011 5:02 PM, "Andreas Reuleaux" wrote: > OK, I see - didn't know that, but am now migrating my app in the online administration interface. Thanks a lot. -An

[google-appengine] Re: GAE for a web based MMORPG

2011-12-20 Thread Kaan Soral
My initial idea was to keep everything in one datastore entity, in a blob property, players would post changes to this entity, and when they request the game state, they would also get contents of this item But I totally forgot about the 5/s datastore write limit for a single entity So even with

[google-appengine] Datastore Admin - deleting entities stuck

2011-12-20 Thread fross-pe...@conceptuamath.com
Some weeks ago, I created an HR app as a test. No billing. Today I wanted to delete all the data and start over. I used the Datastore Admin feature. It got partway through and then bumped into the free write ops quota. I then enabled billing, thinking it would pick up and continue, but it stil

Re: [google-appengine] TemplateDoesNotExist error

2011-12-20 Thread PhistucK
Obviously, years later, but still matters. Can you make the runtime of the SDK behave the same as the runtime of the production server in this regard (well, in every regard)? Three years later, this still bugs developers and wastes their time. Thank you! -- You received this message because you

Re: [google-appengine] server error

2011-12-20 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Take a look at your admin console. Your app is a free application that is over quota. You need to raise the budget. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine plus.ikailan.com | twitter.com/ikai On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Ron Malen wrote: > The web application that was ru

Re: [google-appengine] Re: App Engine Chat Time!

2011-12-20 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Ron, Your app is a free app that is way over datastore ops quota. You're receiving "server error" because you need to enable billing and raise the quota. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine plus.ikailan.com | twitter.com/ikai On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Ron Malen wr

Re: [google-appengine] Least Expensive Way to Delete Entities

2011-12-20 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Guess I forgot about the "EntitiesByKind" index: http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/storage_breakdown.html Yes, the correct number should be 22 datastore writes. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine plus.ikailan.com | twitter.com/ikai On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:58

[google-appengine] Re: i18n static pages

2011-12-20 Thread rrtom
Hi Gary, Here is my view and we could figure out the details in AIFA group discussion. * GWT has i18n guide :    * http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideI18n.html   * http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/doc/latest/tutorial/i18n.html* for static pages, we could have the servlet to do l

[google-appengine] Endless cron job

2011-12-20 Thread David Lindsey
Hi, There's a cron job that runs every minute spamming up my logs which I think is an orphan of Datastore Admin delete job. That particular delete request completed in that it deleted all the entities it was supposed to but it said 2 jobs completed 1 active. It seemed hung like that. Another post

Re: [google-appengine] The 'go' runtime is only supported for apps using the High Replication Datastore.

2011-12-20 Thread Andrius A
You know when you create new app in GAE you can select datastore type, I think you have selected MS. On Dec 20, 2011 5:02 PM, "Andreas Reuleaux" wrote: > I have a minimal go app running in dev_appserver.py > (SDK 1.6.1) without any problems. > > Now when I try to upload it with appcfg.py I get: >

[google-appengine] The 'go' runtime is only supported for apps using the High Replication Datastore.

2011-12-20 Thread Andreas Reuleaux
I have a minimal go app running in dev_appserver.py (SDK 1.6.1) without any problems. Now when I try to upload it with appcfg.py I get: ... Getting current resource limits. Scanning files on local disk. Error 400: --- begin server output --- The 'go' runtime is only supported for apps u

[google-appengine] Re: How do calculate discounted frontend classes instance hours?

2011-12-20 Thread gregsz
I'm considering using GAE to build a SaaS business but am having a real hard time finding a way to forecast my hosting costs. Even if I were a coder and understood the details about how I'll be billed, how could I make a decent estimation of what additional costs I'll incur per new customer us

[google-appengine] Re: How to estimate your daily budget?

2011-12-20 Thread gregsz
I'm considering using GAE to build a SaaS business but am having a real hard time finding a way to forecast my hosting costs. Even if I were a coder, how could I make a decent estimation of what additional costs I'll incur per new customer using my online B2B service on a daily or monthly basi

Re: [google-appengine] GAE for web shop

2011-12-20 Thread voscausa
We have created the webshop frontend in javascript. : http://www.euro-codicil.eu The payment handling with Ogone is done with GAE. But there is a new experimental / demo XHTML version of the webshop. XHTML and no javascript and no cookies because there is a lot of opposition against cookies in

Re: [google-appengine] GAE for web shop

2011-12-20 Thread Niklas Rosencrantz
Thank you for the information! If you want to have a look at the start of the webshop I'm making with python the URL to my project alpha / beta is http://bnano-www.appspot.com/ Regards, Niklas On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:59 AM, voscausa wrote: > i created a webshop using Ogone as payment provider i

[google-appengine] Re: Least Expensive Way to Delete Entities

2011-12-20 Thread voscausa
You van use a daily cron job to delete parts of the old stuff and stay within your quota. In this way you can make use of your free new quota every day. Maybe it is not cheaper, but you stay within tour quota. And ofcourse use batch delete. -- You received this message because you are subscribe

Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE for a web based MMORPG

2011-12-20 Thread Gopal Patel
can you do something like git ? whenever there is state change, update hash and save as new entity. that way, you will have whole chain of event, current state, etc. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: > Even worse than the communication issue is the fact that there's no >

Re: [google-appengine] Stuck delete in progress from Datastore Admin due to out of quota

2011-12-20 Thread Gopal Patel
afaik, development server do not have any quota. and instead of clearing datastore ( unless thats the operation you are testing ) , delete the datastore file directly on development server. that will be way easier. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:37 PM, andrew wrote: > A few days ago I wanted to dele

[google-appengine] Stuck delete in progress from Datastore Admin due to out of quota

2011-12-20 Thread andrew
A few days ago I wanted to delete ALL the entities in the datastore of a development server I have, to start from scratch. >From Datastore Admin page I selected all entities via the top checkbox, and then "Delete Entities". It kicked off a number of tasks to delete them all, but before it could f

Re: [google-appengine] Least Expensive Way to Delete Entities

2011-12-20 Thread Brian Quinlan
I think that Ikai made an off-by-one-error: it requires 22 writes assuming that every property is indexed :-) Check out "Entity Delete (per entity)" at: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/billing.html#Billable_Resource_Unit_Cost Cheers, Brian On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:47 PM, supercobra wrot

Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE for a web based MMORPG

2011-12-20 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
Even worse than the communication issue is the fact that there's no place to put game state. Putting it in the datastore is too slow & expensive and putting it in a backend isn't reliable enough. Gameservers need to have uptime of months at least; even with checkpointing to the datastore, users ar

Re: [google-appengine] Least Expensive Way to Delete Entities

2011-12-20 Thread supercobra
Could you explain (again?) how a deletion of an entity w/ 10- property is 21 writes? On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Ikai Lan (Google) wrote: > One thing you can do is making this really slow. The free quota actually > gives you quite a bit of quota (if your app is relatively small) so if you >

Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE for a web based MMORPG

2011-12-20 Thread Andrius A
And even if you decide to use channels api, you won't be able to deliver messages fast for masses of users. Channels api doesn't support broadcasting, so looping through users to send messages will take time. On Dec 20, 2011 8:23 AM, "vega" <_v...@vr-web.de> wrote: > you want to broadcast the acti

[google-appengine] Re: GAE for a web based MMORPG

2011-12-20 Thread vega
you want to broadcast the actions (or results of those actions^^) from every player to every player? how many players do you want to handle? i mean, imagine you have 500 users at a time online - and each does just 1 operation that would result in 62k messages doesnt sound like the best