[google-appengine] Re: Why are several production issues related to DeadlineExceededErrors being ignored?

2012-01-15 Thread Cezary Wagner
I think that is big problem since GAE that no handle problem with customer experience of start-ups/low traffic application it kills traffic expansion. First instance loads to slow to server first customer - result is drop with 500 status customer goes away that should not occur since it block traf

[google-appengine] Re: Question about pushing messages to native apps

2012-01-15 Thread Tom Willis
The latency is mind blowingly low in my experience. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/Ya9qA6-3cdMJ. To post to this group, send emai

Re: [google-appengine] ChannelAPI and different versions

2012-01-15 Thread alex
Andrin, this has nothing to do with ChannelAPI and different versions, but I sometimes get another issue: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4940 have you ever encountered that one? if yes, any workarounds you would suggest? I'm currently sending a "ping" every 40 secs or

Re: [google-appengine] Why are several production issues related to DeadlineExceededErrors being ignored?

2012-01-15 Thread Karl Rosaen
Hi Brandon, We do have a warmup handler defined. Durning load, we were seeing the warmup request causing a DeadlineExceededError simply while importing code (e.g during a python import statement in one of the modules). Thanks, Karl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[google-appengine] Re: Question about pushing messages to native apps

2012-01-15 Thread Christoph Grossegger
thank you for mentioning and sharing your experiences with pubnub, althought it seams a bit expensive for my purpose (at least the pay as you go system, haven't calculated the prepaid options yet). It looks interesting for applications with somehow "moderate" update rates / pushes, since you ge

[google-appengine] Re: SSL on Custom domains before 2014 ?

2012-01-15 Thread Cayden Meyer
Hi, The App Engine team has been working hard for some time now to have SSL for Custom Domains ready for launch. We have been running a Trusted Tester Program for it for some months now with very positive results. I don't have a date to announce at this point as I would rather give an definite da

RE: [google-appengine] Why are several production issues related to DeadlineExceededErrors being ignored?

2012-01-15 Thread Brandon Wirtz
That would imply that your warm up takes more than 15 seconds. The only thing your warm up should do is initialize the instance and send out a "hello world". You may need to manage the order of your imports and make sure you don't have redundant imports. There are some threads in the archive

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Question about pushing messages to native apps

2012-01-15 Thread Brandon Wirtz
EC2 is cheaper for a lot of things at the scale of things that can run on 10 instances. EC2 is a lot more expensive when you get to the point you need to hire a person to manage your EC2 instances. That $80k a year employee buys you a LOT of appengine services. That is what you are paying for. Co

Re: [google-appengine] Persistence Error

2012-01-15 Thread Amy Unruh
Victor, Your example is a bit abstract, but a general test (e.g., see this code snippet - http://pastebin.com/u6RHWqe6 ) works fine. You might double check that your instances do have the intended content prior to persisting them. On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Victor Emanuel < victor.perticar

Re: [google-appengine] SMS Verification Issue

2012-01-15 Thread Amy Unruh
hi Ed, Did you fill out this form?: https://appengine.google.com/waitlist/sms_issues If so, you should by now have received an invitation. -Amy On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Edward C wrote: > Hi, > > I have some serious problem getting my verification issue. I never > receive my SMS verif

[google-appengine] Re: How to defend against deployment-specific production bugs

2012-01-15 Thread Cayden Meyer
You can use appcfg update_queues to just update queue definitions. However, there is no way to omit queue.yaml/xml changes from appcfg update (the more general version deployment). I am curious to hear what kind of deployment bugs you are seeing. Cayden Meyer Product Manager, Google App Engine O

Re: [google-appengine] Can't Access My App

2012-01-15 Thread Amy Unruh
Once you are logged in via the relevant account, do you see your app listed when you visit this page?: https://appengine.google.com/ If not, you likely created it under a different login. If you like, you can directly email me the app id and I can check to see the admin accounts listed for it. -

Re: [google-appengine] Re: How to defend against deployment-specific production bugs

2012-01-15 Thread Carter Maslan
Thank you for the appcfg update_queues tip; we will try that out. We have had only one deployment bug that was corrected: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine-java/bW6T0W_Z6Ec/BY_jLu6QTJMJ On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Cayden Meyer wrote: > You can use appcfg update_queues to j

Re: [google-appengine] How to download logs from a backend?

2012-01-15 Thread Amy Unruh
Dave, The same logs include both backend and frontend instance logging- they are not separated. You could be experiencing a delay before long-running backend log writes get flushed. You might be interested in the LogService API, http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/backends/logserviceapi

Re: [google-appengine] Why are several production issues related to DeadlineExceededErrors being ignored?

2012-01-15 Thread Karl Rosaen
Yeah, actually we do warmup memcache for data the frontpage needs to render - under normal circumstances, performing these queries takes well under 15 seconds. According to the docs : You can implement handlers

RE: [google-appengine] Why are several production issues related to DeadlineExceededErrors being ignored?

2012-01-15 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Give me 35 minutes. I shot a video to talk about this topic, I thought that might be easier than the really long email J From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karl Rosaen Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 5:42 PM To: google-appengine@google

RE: [google-appengine] Why are several production issues related to DeadlineExceededErrors being ignored?

2012-01-15 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Snow is slowing down my internet. Maybe a little longer than 35 minutes YT says 45 min remaining. From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Wirtz Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 6:17 PM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: R

RE: [google-appengine] Why are several production issues related to DeadlineExceededErrors being ignored?

2012-01-15 Thread Brandon Wirtz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJIvYBd-gnI Hopefully this make it clearer. I don't think Google has a best practices guide (they should) You don't want max pending latency to be High, you can hit the time out. You don't want the Warm up to do anything other than initialized variables and lo

[google-appengine] Unable to get dynamic backend to start on receiving browser request

2012-01-15 Thread jon
Hi, I've read and re-read the documentation and have tried various things but I haven't been able to get dynamic backend to start automatically on receiving user request. Here's my config: B2 1 true true When I hit backenda.myapp.appspot.com I always get a