The Billing and Budgeting Resources page
(http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/billing.html) says that "Key
allocation (per key)" costs 1 small operation.
Does this mean that if I call DatastoreService.allocateIds("Kind",
5000) that I will be billed for 5,000 small operations? If I block
out, sa
+1... any mail, explain or form input response... Google is "spying" our
apps?
2012/1/25 George Simon
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> On Jan 18, 12:56 am, Waleed Abdulla wrote:
> > I filled the form a couple of months ago and haven't heard back!
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> > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:48 AM, objectu
I used to participate on the Azure groups but haven't in ages. I'd be
interested but probably not yet if it's too pricy. I'm not working at the
scale that my participation would be useful, but it's likely that the
issues discussed would be actionable so I'd happily lurk.
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I'm looking at $3 a month.
The price is really just so that I have a paid contract with every member so
that I can enforce that members behave, don't spam, and such, and monthly so
when you screw up I don't have to fight with pay pal or someone about the
refund.
I've run groups in the past and
Yes, you are right, but you aren't consuming cycles in the meantime. This
works well if your datastore write is anything other than the last line of
your code.
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I try it - qouta calc count on call function.
allocate_id_range(v1, 1, 4294967296)
self.response.out.write('Hello world!')
It work fast, fine and calcs as one key alloocation ops in quota details.
2012/1/26 Jeff Schnitzer
> The Billing and Budgeting Resources page
> (http://code
It would be super cool if the backup feature allows me to backup my data to
Google's Cloud SQL so it's a backup and, as the same time, a good place to
run reports that require the complex queries that SQL is good at.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:39 AM, someone1 wrote:
> Strike that, I was looking
I want function for keep or close channel by server side.
For example I open channel for 48 hours. If user have active during it
period - I prolong channel for next 48 hours. It need for incremental
update client state for web-application.
2012/1/26 Waleed Abdulla
> It would be super cool if the
I belonged to a forum that was $100 per year. The primary benefit of the
price was keeping jokers out. $3 might let them in, but is probably a good
start.
Maybe ycombinator would have an interest since all their startups aim to
have the problems you're trying to solve?
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On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:23:11 AM UTC+1, Robert Kluin wrote:
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> While it is true that logging adds some overhead, he's talking about a
> backend task. So it is presumably a longer-running more involved process.
> Logging is great in these cases because it allows you to
Hi,
I have developed a forum where i have structured the database using
ReferenceProperties to link forum groups, forums, threads, posts and
users.. so a group (db.model object) has N forums that have N threads
with N posts..
I have a problem with the Datastore Read Operations Quota and i think
t
All -
Does anyone know how long Java sessions are around for when making use
of the servlet session interface that GAE implements ?
Thanks in advance.
..Chris
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One get_by_id is one datastore read. When you access a reference property for
the first time it will do the datastore read. Accessing all forums of a group
would be a separate query.
-Martin
On Jan 26, 2012, at 8:30 AM, ikalbeniz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have developed a forum where i have structu
You didn't mention if you're fetching the entities using their keys or with
a query. If you can fetch with keys, it's faster. And, also, increase your
batch size:
db.get([list of 1000 keys])
Another thing you might want to try is using async operations so you
trigger the fetches one after ano
I would happily join Brandon and take no offense in the suggestion that
there might be better options than Google Groups out there :)
Greg
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:25 AM, Richard Watson wrote:
> I belonged to a forum that was $100 per year. The primary benefit of the
> price was keeping jokers
Sounds a good idea to me, I'd be up for it.
Cheers,
Simon
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Yep, I see that the OP is an OWNER on most of the apps. I didn't count them
one-by-one, however.
There should not be a limit of the number of billing enabled apps
available, however. You should be able to create these as needed and they
will not count against the number of free apps you have. We s
They're backed with Memcache and Datastore so you won't lose session data
when the instance shuts down. I can't find the default, but it looks like
the session code respects HttpSession's maxInactiveInterval() method:
http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/6/api/javax/servlet/http/HttpSession.html#setMaxIn
Between the way the datastore works and deserialization, fetching 6000
entities is never going to be efficient.
What problem are you trying to solve? Is it possible to reduce the number
of entities? For instance, can you store data for 1000 entities in 6
entities and fetch only 6 big entities? The
I'm keen and don't mind paying a small fee.
On Jan 26, 8:48 pm, Simon Knott wrote:
> Sounds a good idea to me, I'd be up for it.
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> Cheers,
> Simon
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I recently made a significant change in my app (python 2.5) when I had
to "collapse" many pages into one - hiding functionality for users
that had become unstable/unauthorized. I am definitely a newbie to
how this would impact search engine bots, but basically a huge number
of pages all changed an
I don't know what your URLS look like, but I would take the old URLS and
have your app serve a 410 error to those. And do that early in your app
logic.
Also if you are trying to run for free, Python 2.7 thread safe will help a
lot.
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Hi all,
I got directed to this group by the Google Help page. I want to ask
something with regards to the use of the Google Code service (I just
read the new terms of service and was pleased to read something
readable. A rare event when it comes to terms of service and privacy
statements).
So I w
I had exactly the same problem.
Using UserService was very intuitive and easy but without possibility to
set wildcard realm, implementing SSO for Google Apps Marketplace (we are
using subdomains for multitenancy) was impossible.
If only UserService.createLoginURL had one more argument - String
I am using Google APP Engine in Java to send XMPP messages to GTalk
users.There is a servlet that sends these messages.
There is a separate application written in .NET that takes care of
other activities of my application. My question is; can I trigger this
servlet to send a chat to a particular J
I have just started with appengine, I want to build a small e-com site
(examples appreciated). The problem I am stuck with is providing a
human readable URL to each entity I have. The generated key can not be
used and it is looks to be implementation internal, Also I can not
have so many names. Can
Hi,
I tried to start a backend on an app (id: "butterpool") 1d7h ago, but
I have been consistently getting the "service you requested is not
available yet" error. I tried both dynamic and resident backends.
I see that other people have had this problem, and that in at least
one case it was solved
Your use case is perfect for the task queue. We use a similar model:
get a request then fire off a task to log some stuff to the database
and jam a value in memcache if required. This way control is returned
back to the user as quickly as possible.
On 24 January 2012 08:07, Brandon Wirtz wrote:
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Good question. It would be good if they clarified this with a
distinction between content that is is private as opposed to public.
For instance, there would be an instant backlash against Appengine and
Google Docs if Google was allowed to "communicate, publish, publicly
perform, publicly display a
I just shot a video about this and a few other clauses in the new TOS that I
don't like.
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Those should be based on the old pricing. The old pricing is based on CPU
milliseconds. That number is less meaningful (not meaningful anymore?)
because you are billed for instance hours, and you have concurrent
requests. Datastore ops are also not included.
At some point we should get rid of tho
I can't speak for code.google.com but I can speak for App Engine. Our
Terms of Service has this clause
"1.2 *From Customer to Google*. By submitting, posting or displaying any
Application (including Customer Content) on or through the Service,
Customer gives Google a worldwide, non-sublicensable,
I mentioned that. I'll get my video up later today or tomorrow.
The GAE terms are fine, the as presented for some of the other Google
products that I don't think anyone thought about kind of sucks. Feedburner
for example, I don't want Google creating derivative works of my full
content RSS f
Hello all,
I am getting Channel creation exception in the server logs even though
the dashboard shows that we have only ~20% of the Channels created for
the day.
Channels Created 19% 147,214 of 760,320 Okay
com.google.apphosting.api.ApiProxy$OverQuotaException: The API c
You were right, Robert. I was storing a key as a StringProperty in
the Community.featured_maker. That key was no longer valid on HRD.
The key.to_path() didn't help, because the old key was an encoded key
from the old appid.
I manually looked up the right key and set the featured_maker and now
ever
www.cloudonastring.com is up. Feel free to point out any spelling or
grammar errors, complain about how ugly my layout is or anything else.
I decided on a pricing at about $100 a year ($7.95 per month) if you are a
student you get $2.95 a month. If you have a team of people there is an
organi
Could you tell me your app-id?
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Hey Stephan,
Mike Wesner and I were actually just discussing this earlier today.
He also mentioned there being some limit on log entries, we couldn't
recall exactly what it was though. I just ran a simple test; it seems
that only the last 1000 lines are kept. At least that is what it
looks like
Hi,
When you access those reference properties they are fetched by key.
Unfortunately this will happen serially, which will significantly
impact your performance. You're not going to avoid the read
operations without changing your schema, but you can at least improve
the performance by doing a b
Hi Jay,
Of course this is possible, you can have your .Net app make a
service call to the Java application. If I'm not mistaken you can
interact with REST services via WCF, I think you can even do so using
JSON as the interchange format.
Robert
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 06:01, Jay wrote:
Hi,
You can use key names you create yourself instead of auto-generated
ids if you would like. The names can be alphanumeric.
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/entities.html#Kinds_IDs_and_Names
Robert
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:10, yadab wrote:
> I have just sta
Hi Ben,
Have you filed a production issue?
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Production%20issue
Out of curiosity, have you tried changing the backends name?
Robert
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:12, Ben Nevile wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried to start a backend on a
Hey Steve,
They actually added a default version "target" recently. You can
use that to send a task back to the default version of your app, just
as you would to send a task to a numbered version. Just set the
target to taskqueue.DEFAULT_APP_VERSION.
Robert
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:25, st
Hey,
Super, glad that helped you. The code I posted can be used to
convert the keys though, in my example "bad_key"is really just
db.Key('basdkeystring').
Robert
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 20:02, Nevada County Makes
wrote:
> You were right, Robert. I was storing a key as a StringProperty in
>
ok.. in my case i have something like this..
class ForumGroup(db.Model):
name = db.StringProperty()
description = db.StringProperty(multiline=True)
created_at = db.DateTimeProperty(auto_now_add=True)
class Forum(db.Model):
name = db.StringProperty()
description = db.StringProp
Hi Manuel,
Yes, this is very possible to do. It is how the datastore admin
copy tool works. You might take a look at that code for an example of
how to do the basic setup,
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/source/browse/trunk/python/google/appengine/ext/datastore_admin/copy_handler.
So "group.forum.threads.posts.fetch(10)" is exactly the type of thing
you need to be cautious of. That is actually doing a fetch to get the
forum, then another for threads, and lastly querying for ten posts.
That's a lot of datastore operations.
You might want to think about denormalizing your da
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