I read somewhere that IN queries are processed serially by the
datastore. GOOGers, what is a rough rule-of-thumb on the benefit of
using IN? For example, if the base RT latency for anything with the
datastore is Nms, then could guesstimate that using N for a list of 3
is not a huge latency win,
.
-Nick
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Jeff Enderwick jeff.enderw...@gmail.com
wrote:
I read somewhere that IN queries are processed serially by the
datastore. GOOGers, what is a rough rule-of-thumb on the benefit of
using IN? For example, if the base RT latency for anything with the
datastore
In the context dashboard, what precisely does 'errors' mean?
I see an error frequency in the dashboard that is much higher than
what I see in the logs.
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dropbox is a nice/convenient option as well.
GOOGers, this is a missing feature that many customers have
assumed/expected, to their detriment. Personally, I have on off-site
backups, but it seems that many aren't so fortunate (or are a little
too nonki). Yeah, if the customer uses his/her head,
There are application domains that spike severely. One example is AAA
for corporate environments. There are large companies on the planet
where *everyone* comes to work @ 8am +/-10min and logs in. Just one
example from a prior life...
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Brandon N.
thread in 965ms
of wall-clock time.
Jeff
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jeff S (Google)j...@google.com wrote:
Hi Jeff
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Jeff Enderwick jeff.enderw...@gmail.com
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Trolling my logs, I'm coming across cases where there is extreme
(~10x) variance
On Aug 31, 1:52 pm, Jeff Enderwick jeff.enderw...@gmail.com wrote:
thanks - I expected that the api calls would use parallel processing,
but the app/servelet itself is a single thread of execution.
if I have api_cpu_ms of 74, and cpu_ms of 1500, then that gives 1426ms
for the non-api (app/servelet
into this, would you
mind sharing which runtime you are using, and the app ID?
Cheers,
Jeff
On Aug 31, 1:52 pm, Jeff Enderwick jeff.enderw...@gmail.com wrote:
thanks - I expected that the api calls would use parallel processing,
but the app/servelet itself is a single thread
Trolling my logs, I'm coming across cases where there is extreme
(~10x) variance in cpu_ms for the exact same code flow, same GET URL
and same data (not even any intervening writes to the datastore). I am
logging my db.* function accesses, and I have factored out memcache
too. For example:
92ms,
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On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Jeff Enderwick jeff.enderw...@gmail.com
wrote:
thanks - I got bit by those __init__ nuances over the weekend. I ended
up passing an optional flag to the __init__ to say this is really a
new() vs a datastore reconstitution. I del the optional flag
but call the super __init__.
Does that cover the __init__ gotchas, or am I digging my own grave by
not converting to a distinct create function?
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Nick Johnson
(Google)nick.john...@google.com wrote:
Hi Jeff,
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Jeff Enderwick
There is a related feature request, which you can star:
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=792colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Stars%20Owner%20Summary%20Log%20Component
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:13 AM, jackyaoye...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, I'll try to port the
Star it, bro:
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=792colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Stars%20Owner%20Summary%20Log%20Component
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:03 PM, repairmanalau2...@gmail.com wrote:
google guys,
I don't know if you guys realize the implication of
Currently, one must put() in order to have obj.key() be valid. In some
flows, I find my self having to put() object twice for this reason.
If I make a synthetic key, it appears that I can avoid this:
class Joker(db.Model):
unused = db.StringProperty()
def __init__(self):
m =
So, if I want StringListProperty, but I don't want/need the indexing,
then I ought use ListProperty(db.Text)?
Thanks again,
Jeff
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Nick Johnson
(Google)nick.john...@google.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Jeff Enderwickjeff.enderw...@gmail.com
Thanks again Nick. Sorry to be a PITA. We've been told that
TextProperty is effectively the same as StringProperty w/out the
indexing (although the online doc indicates some max length
differences).
What are the differences between ListProperty(db.Text) and
StringListProperty(indexed=False), and
long story short, I had a URL that was running 900/1500ms (app/api)
CPU, so I had to dig into it. I was surprised by just how much CPU
time some simple things are taking (or how much I think they're taking
;-). For example, with this class:
class AssocObject(db.Model):
urlPath =
Thanks Nick. So in the case below, will the datastore then maintain an
index on alist by default?
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:35 AM, Nick Johnson
(Google)nick.john...@google.com wrote:
Hi Jeff,
A StringListProperty is exactly equivalent, as far as the datastore is
concerned, to multiple
Hey all, is there any datastop/API overhead difference between these
two? Is there any difference in index (or lack thereof) maintenance by
the datastore?
Thanks,
Jeff
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On Jul 18, 8:29 pm, Jeff Enderwick jeff.enderw...@gmail.com wrote:
Is 10MB the current limit, or is it 1MB? I was under the impression
that the max blob size was 1MB, and max HTTP response size was 10MB.
Do I have it right?
API calls are limited to 1MB unless
#Hard_limits
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Wooblegeoffsp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jul 18, 8:29 pm, Jeff Enderwick jeff.enderw...@gmail.com wrote:
Is 10MB the current limit, or is it 1MB? I was under the impression
that the max blob size was 1MB, and max HTTP response size was 10MB.
Do I have
Looks like dev_appserver.py doesn't support http (secure in app.yaml).
Any thoughts about adding that?
Or did I miss something?
Thanks!
Jeff
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There are those of us who are betting real $s that GAE is a real
platform for serving an app that needs to scale. I am grateful that
GOOG lets me host my glassblowing web site for free (scalability not
an issue). I expect to pay money to GOOG for this platform if/when
things go well. Hopefully I
Is 10MB the current limit, or is it 1MB? I was under the impression
that the max blob size was 1MB, and max HTTP response size was 10MB.
Do I have it right?
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Nick Johnson
(Google)nick.john...@google.com wrote:
Hi Jeff,
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Jeff
1) I saw that 30 was listed somewhere as the max simultaneous dynamic
requests for an app. Is this really true? Even if I am paying, and I
have a very popular app? I see the math indicating that one can retire
400/sec with 75ms latency, but I am sure that GOOG-internal apps
aren't held to this
Jeff Enderwick jeff.enderw...@gmail.com
Hey Jeff - sorry for the confusion. The idea was that one would be
able to get the unique id from an GOOG and then do a db.put with that
id as an arg. For example, let's say I want to create two entities,
with each referring to each other. I need to do
I say go hire a HIPAA consultant who can answer such questions authoritatively.
I've been through FIPS before, and you would not believe the odd
lawyeresque contrivances used to get certified. With HIPAA you are in
the same realm, and so you should hire yourself the appropriate
barrister.
$.02,
Hey Jeff - sorry for the confusion. The idea was that one would be
able to get the unique id from an GOOG and then do a db.put with that
id as an arg. For example, let's say I want to create two entities,
with each referring to each other. I need to do three db.put
operations:
a = Foo()
I second that. I have cases where I'm building a structure of multiple
objects, and I have to do a put() just to get the id, and then I need
to do another put() to the same object later on. Eliminating the 2nd
put() of the same object in the flow would also allow me to wrap it in
a transaction.
as a delimiter-separated list of IDs, though - 1/2/3/4 - and
regenerate the key yourself.
-Nick Johnson
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Jeff Enderwick jeff.enderw...@gmail.com
wrote:
I have possibly deep entity groups (think tree structure), but I want
a URL where the user can go to a specific
Apologies in advance if this is obvious to the experienced Python
programmer. It is clear that 20+yrs of C has worn grooves in my brain:
class ClassA(db.Expando):
extref = db.ReferenceProperty(ClassB)
...
class ClassB(db.Expando):
extref = db.ReferenceProperty(ClassA)
is what I want.
I have possibly deep entity groups (think tree structure), but I want
a URL where the user can go to a specific node, like:
http://viewnode/node-id.
I'd like to use db.get() to directly access the node rather than query
based on node-id.
If I build the URL based on str(node.key()), then the
Something similar to what Facebook offers (the connect button).
I see the folks at typepad are using this:
http://static.typepad.com/.shared/images/profile/openid_buttons/google.gif
Does GOOG get mad if I use it? If I shrink it? Does GOOG offer images
that have been okayed by the branding folks?
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