[google-appengine] Re: Channel API alternatives

2016-11-06 Thread Strom
How nice, another piece of GAE being shut down. As for alternatives, I've found the following four that I'll be looking into: * https://pusher.com/ * https://www.pubnub.com/ * https://www.ably.io/ * https://framework.realtime.co/ On Sunday, October 30, 2016 at 3:58:41 AM UTC+2, PK wrote: > >

Re: [google-appengine] queuing task for frontend from backend (push queue)

2013-03-14 Thread Strom
Is this also possible with the Java SDK? I couldn't find any 'target' parameter. On Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:37:27 PM UTC+3, Greg Darke wrote: In the recent 1.5.5 release we added a feature to allow just this behaviour. If you pass the new module level constant DEFAULT_APP_VERSION as

[google-appengine] Re: OverQuotaException without being over quota

2012-12-07 Thread Strom
gc-hrd is having this issue as well On Friday, December 7, 2012 8:40:44 PM UTC+2, JH wrote: app: fonefindr-hr is having the same issue On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:51:05 AM UTC-6, Lucian Baciu wrote: My app has just started throwing this:

[google-appengine] Re: Google Apps No Longer Free

2012-12-06 Thread Strom
This seems like another nice price increase for GAE. On Friday, December 7, 2012 4:42:42 AM UTC+2, Greg wrote: Just saw that Google Apps is no longer free for businesseshttp://googleenterprise.blogspot.co.nz/2012/12/changes-to-google-apps-for-businesses.html . I have no problem paying for

[google-appengine] Re: Understanding Request was aborted after waiting too long

2012-11-10 Thread Strom
Great post, I would like to know the definitive answers as well. For your big question #2, I belive a request has a total of 60 seconds to return a response, and the timer against this 60 seconds starts when the request comes in. So both all the piping actual request handling has to occur in

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Web site completely down + appengine console not accessible

2012-10-26 Thread Strom
All my HRD apps are down, but M/S apps work fine. On Friday, October 26, 2012 5:53:41 PM UTC+3, sebastián serrano wrote: 40 apps down :-( -sebastian www.devsar.com El viernes, 26 de octubre de 2012 11:51:48 UTC-3, Thiago Catoto escribió: Same here, got some 4 app, all down On Fri,

[google-appengine] Re: Good feedback for today

2012-10-26 Thread Strom
In my opinion it was the usual silence. It took over an hour to get a single word out of google and then they didn't keep those within 60 minutes promises, the next message was always much later. On Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:18:21 AM UTC+3, Carl Schroeder wrote: We will provide another

[google-appengine] Re: GAE + AdSense = mission impossible ?

2012-10-19 Thread Strom
Yes you can use AdSense on a website hosted on GAE. How? The same way you would use it on any other site. It seems that there may be a problem with the appspot.com URL when applying for an AdSense account. So get yourself a custom domain, i.e. carmellose.net. On Friday, October 19, 2012

[google-appengine] Re: Appengine down (M/S Datastore)

2012-06-08 Thread Strom
If you want to take it seriously, then migrate to HR. M/S is deprecated and known to fail frequently. On Jun 8, 6:26 pm, Nikhil Jain nikhil.jaint...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Doug, Here in India also we'r promising to our customer about 99.9% up-time servers. but this is truly unprofessional-ism

[google-appengine] Re: Update version of GAE application, using php and CURL

2012-05-20 Thread Strom
Yes it is possible, just re-implement it yourself. On May 20, 11:12 am, Денис Тимонин dentimo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, i know it. But i want do that without using appcfg.py. Is it possible? суббота, 19 мая 2012 г., 23:11:09 UTC+4 пользователь barryhunter написал: Why CURL?

[google-appengine] Re: datastore id performance

2012-05-04 Thread Strom
Maybe, but not of any significance. On May 4, 5:16 am, Michael maisng...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any performance differences when searching an entity A and entity B, where entity A uses a String datatype as id and entity uses a Integer datatype as id? -- You received this message because

[google-appengine] Re: Idea for dev server - simulated infrastructure instability

2012-05-03 Thread Strom
I don't think just having the memcache not work on the dev server would have much of an impact, because the dev datastore is fast anyway. However I definitely see a use for a slow mode where API calls take around the same time as they do in production, including some occasional crazy delays. On

[google-appengine] Re: How to update eclipse plugin to google app engine 1.6.5 sdk?

2012-04-30 Thread Strom
A few weeks delay is a good occasion. Sometimes they skip a whole version on the eclipse update, e.g. 1.6.2 never showed up on the eclipse update for me. On Apr 30, 5:08 pm, Jeff Schnitzer j...@infohazard.org wrote: I've found the eclipse-downloaded version of the SDK to be a liability.  

[google-appengine] Re: Large latency spike, need assistance

2012-04-26 Thread Strom
Does it matter? 50% of zero is still zero, so you won't get anything. On Apr 26, 10:58 am, alex a...@cloudware.it wrote: This is not directly related to the original post, but speaking of SLA, I was just re-reading it (https://developers.google.com/appengine/sla) and this got me thinking:

[google-appengine] Re: Twitter Task Queue vs Cron

2012-04-25 Thread Strom
Easy question but a bit tricky to answer. What's wrong with your current solution? Nothing? Then there's nothing to fix. If there's something wrong, then you look at alternative methods and think to yourself does this solve my problem?. On Apr 25, 4:10 pm, D dafin...@gmail.com wrote: Im sure

[google-appengine] Re: Billing Blanace

2012-04-24 Thread Strom
Google charges my credit card every week and I imagine it will be the same for you. On Apr 23, 1:13 pm, foxyf fnv...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok, I see, so Google will charge me automatically ? I don't need to do anything other than make sure my payment information is correct ? Thanks again! On

[google-appengine] Re: Long running work

2012-04-21 Thread Strom
1. If you always have only one request running at a time then 3 instances sounds bad indeed. 2. Backends are decent, but more expensive. You can probably get the same work done on a frontend instance, but cheaper. 3. Cron is unreliable, use the task queue instead. On Apr 20, 10:00 pm, Ido Ran

[google-appengine] Re: 1.6.4 dev server not saving data

2012-04-14 Thread Strom
How old were the changes? I find that it takes a few minutes for changes to persist, and this has been the case since forever. On Apr 14, 1:47 am, Mahron gan...@xehon.com wrote: Just Rebooted for windows updates and all changes were gone. Not the First time this happens. It's very annoying and

[google-appengine] Re: Datastore offline as of 3:40pm PST

2012-03-09 Thread Strom
Yes, move to HRD. On Mar 10, 1:59 am, blackpawn pharmapsycho...@gmail.com wrote: The datastore is completely dead since 3:40 and non-HRD apps can't serve any requests besides static files.  The status page is showing Anomaly so hopefully this is being looked at.  Is there anything we can do to

[google-appengine] Re: How to estimate your daily budget?

2011-12-21 Thread Strom
You can't forecast your cost on any platform if you don't know your usage patterns. On Dec 20, 6:08 am, gregsz szimon...@gmail.com wrote: I'm considering using GAE to build a SaaS business but am having a real hard time finding a way to forecast my hosting costs.  Even if I were a coder, how

[google-appengine] Re: billing and storage issues

2011-12-21 Thread Strom
Indexes. Delete is just a special write case. And when you write, you need to not only write the entity itself but also every index associated with that entity. Also, these indexes aren't magically compressed to 0 bytes, so your 10 vs 52 case is also explained by indexes. On Dec 21, 12:46 pm,

[google-appengine] Re: How quick is delivering a message through Channels API

2011-11-12 Thread Strom
Certainly faster than a second. On Nov 11, 2:19 pm, Andrius andriu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I have an app which does ajax request every second to get data from the server and display in the browser. My question is how quickly messages are delivered through Channels API to the client?

[google-appengine] Re: Dashboard - Current Load: please return back Avg Latency CPU per URL

2011-11-07 Thread Strom
CPU usage isn't that important, but it's better than nothing. Would be very nice to see the instance time used by every URI. I used this table to find big resource hogs. On Nov 7, 11:31 am, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hi Alex, Please feel free to raise an issue in the issue

[google-appengine] Re: How can I undelete (recover) deleted entities?

2011-11-07 Thread Strom
You restore the data from your own custom backup solution. Also, star this issue http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=776 to maybe get better backup tools from google in the future. On Nov 7, 3:53 am, Y yaakovs...@gmail.com wrote: I had 30 GB of entities saved over 2-3

[google-appengine] Re: Channel API not working properly

2011-09-15 Thread Strom
Same here and it's not limited to chrome, doesn't work in IE9 either. On Sep 15, 12:41 pm, Andrin von Rechenberg and...@miumeet.com wrote: We are facing the same problem, Has anyone filed a production ticket? -Andrin, from MiuMeet On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Bay

[google-appengine] Re: Channel API not working properly

2011-09-15 Thread Strom
star it so google gets aware about it:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=5903 The problem also appears on all mobile phones. This is clearly a bug on googles side. -Andrin On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Strom xxst...@gmail.com wrote: Same here

[google-appengine] Re: Channel API not working properly

2011-09-15 Thread Strom
It seems fixed now, or at least my app's channel feature started working. I agree with Bay, that there should be more test coverage / status reporting. I've been defending GAE even with the recent price increase drama, but it's getting hard with a 9 hour outage addition. My main defense of the

[google-appengine] Re: new pricing actually not so bad...

2011-09-15 Thread Strom
I agree with pretty much everything you said. On Sep 15, 11:53 pm, JH ja...@mhztech.com wrote: When first seeing the new pricing I was very upset.  From watching this group I wasn't the only one.  However, at the risk of angering some I'd like to report my findings. When first seeing the new

[google-appengine] Re: Adding 5GB of Blobstore data to App Engine over 3 three days costs $61 by end of year?

2011-09-11 Thread Strom
No it is not correct. Blobstore is not counted as datastore data. Have a quick look at your billing history page for confirmation. On Sep 11, 8:35 pm, Chris Collins xop...@gmail.com wrote: Jens, Your original calculation is correct - $61/year for 15 GB of blobstore data. The reason is, as

[google-appengine] Re: 1.5.4 SDK Prerelease

2011-09-07 Thread Strom
This is the 1.5.4 preview. 1.5.3 has been our for a while. As Gopal Patel said, eclipse plugin is still on 1.5.2. On Sep 7, 7:42 pm, Gopal Patel patelgo...@gmail.com wrote: its preview , actual sdk is not out yet... On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Muneer Malik tutti...@gmail.com wrote:

[google-appengine] Re: 1.5.4 SDK Prerelease

2011-09-07 Thread Strom
This is the 1.5.4 preview. 1.5.3 has been our for a while. As Muneer Malik said, eclipse plugin is still on 1.5.2. On Sep 7, 7:42 pm, Gopal Patel patelgo...@gmail.com wrote: its preview , actual sdk is not out yet... On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Muneer Malik tutti...@gmail.com wrote:

[google-appengine] Re: Small enty level VPS and cloud based services v appengine

2011-09-05 Thread Strom
As far as I know using memcache is free. What are these RPC quotas that you speak of? On Sep 5, 2:00 am, Tim Hoffman zutes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Strom Yep, though accessing it counts in rpc quotas. I tried to keep the stack really small ;-) Honestly you can't compare any VPS with appengine

[google-appengine] Re: Adding 5GB of Blobstore data to App Engine over 3 three days costs $61 by end of year?

2011-09-05 Thread Strom
You add 5GB over 3 days? Or do you mean for 3 days? I'll calculate both for you: 5GB blobstore/year storage = $0 15GB blobstore/year storage = 10 * $0.0057 * 365 = $20.8 On Sep 5, 3:45 pm, Jens Stoltenberg jstolt...@gmail.com wrote: I tried posting this question on StackOverflow but it was

[google-appengine] Re: Adding 5GB of Blobstore data to App Engine over 3 three days costs $61 by end of year?

2011-09-05 Thread Strom
to consider the Blobstore data as being charged as Datastore Data. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Strom xxst...@gmail.com wrote: You add 5GB over 3 days? Or do you mean for 3 days? I'll calculate both for you: 5GB blobstore/year storage = $0 15GB blobstore/year storage = 10 * $0.0057 * 365

[google-appengine] Re: Small enty level VPS and cloud based services v appengine

2011-09-04 Thread Strom
Regarding available memory, memcache is free in GAE. On Sep 4, 4:26 pm, Tim Hoffman zutes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi More than a few people have said in the groups lately that appengine is unsuitable for entry level apps due to the new pricing schedule. I am not so sure, but there hasn't been

[google-appengine] Re: Echo the sentiments of another poster

2011-09-04 Thread Strom
2 weeks? Ridiculous time tables? Dude, the new pricing was announced in the beginning of May. You can only blame yourself for waiting 4 months with the optimization. On Sep 4, 7:22 pm, John Wheeler j...@highvolumeseller.com wrote: I wanted to put what another poster wrote in another thread

[google-appengine] Re: Does datastore pricing prevent pubsub?

2011-09-02 Thread Strom
Read operations cost $0.07 per 100k ops. 100 pageviews containing 100 posts would be ((100 * 100) / 10) * $0.07 = $0.007. On Sep 2, 4:31 pm, Dennis Peterson dennisbpeter...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I should explain...the details don't matter, the key point here is that the design in the

[google-appengine] Re: Does datastore pricing prevent pubsub?

2011-09-02 Thread Strom
the official final details on the new pricing. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Strom xxst...@gmail.com wrote: Read operations cost $0.07 per 100k ops. 100 pageviews containing 100 posts would be ((100 * 100) / 10) * $0.07 = $0.007. On Sep 2, 4:31 pm, Dennis Peterson dennisbpeter

[google-appengine] Re: App Engine is finished, here's why

2011-09-01 Thread Strom
My app gets about 70x price increase, but I'm not going to go anywhere else. Even with such a price increase, GAE is better than the alternatives. Sure that money would buy me quite a few dedicated servers. But it does not buy me a team of people who will fix issues at 4AM in the morning. On Sep

[google-appengine] Re: App Engine is finished, here's why

2011-09-01 Thread Strom
What PAAS options do you have in mind? Azure? If we're comparing GAE to Azure, then we shouldn't take the price of a single Azure instance as GAE apps have high replication by default. On Sep 1, 1:38 pm, Raymond C. windz...@gmail.com wrote: There are quite some PAAS/IAAS options out there which

[google-appengine] Re: Google+ disabling accounts

2011-07-24 Thread Strom
I'm concerned about this as well. As a result I will probably use a throwaway account to try out Google+. On Jul 24, 7:36 am, Michael Quartly pleasedontdisablemyacco...@gmail.com wrote: I have an App Engine app tied to my personal google account and Googles approach to disabling accounts

[google-appengine] Re: Google+ disabling accounts

2011-07-24 Thread Strom
the kinks in their system. Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Strom xxst...@gmail.com wrote: I'm concerned about

[google-appengine] Re: Updated App Engine Pricing FAQ!

2011-06-24 Thread Strom
This new 15 minute description is making it more difficult to understand, but it seems to be the same system as previously. An instance will die if there is no traffic for 15 minutes. You are charged for these idle 15 minutes. It's that simple. On Jun 24, 5:12 pm, Barry Hunter

[google-appengine] Re: Updated App Engine Pricing FAQ!

2011-06-24 Thread Strom
On Jun 24, 6:18 pm, Ugorji ugo...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I don't like it, as it feels more confusing - but I don't make the policy. I would have preferred a flat we charge in increments of 15 minutes. ie once an instance is started, it will only be shutdown after multiples of 15 minutes,

[google-appengine] Re: Something up with cron and task services last couple days?

2011-05-26 Thread Strom
My M/S app has been affected by this the last few days as well. This cron failure stuff used to happen regularly in 2010. I was already beginning to think that those days are over now, but unfortunately that is not the case. I moved the more critical parts to task queue a long time ago and now it

[google-appengine] Re: Is the order of datastore puts guaranteed?

2011-05-18 Thread Strom
and especially the humorous example :-) On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Brandon Wirtz drak...@digerat.com wrote: Order often matters.  (I don't know about the context of this app) Say you are 4th Bank Of Brandon You process transactions from your customer Strom Strom has $500 in his

[google-appengine] Re: Is the order of datastore puts guaranteed?

2011-05-17 Thread Strom
First, the context needs to be a transaction, otherwise there isn't even a guarantee that all puts will happen. Even inside a transaction though, why does the order matter? I can only think of a situation where you use system generated ids, but those aren't guaranteed to be in order anyway. On

[google-appengine] Re: Datastore cost in new price

2011-05-14 Thread Strom
It's undecided but it will probably be billed per RPC. (The query is divided into multiple RPCs under the covers.) On May 14, 11:34 am, rekby timofey.koo...@gmail.com wrote: I want make full backup. Do query SELECT * FROM MyTable bill as only one API call if I have some thoutands/millions

[google-appengine] Re: Anyone on HR affected by today's (2010-04-10) outage?

2011-04-10 Thread Strom
I'm on M/S and I wasn't affected by it. On Apr 10, 11:54 am, Raymond C. windz...@gmail.com wrote: My apps are on M/S so I don't know.  Appreciate if anyone on HR can confirm if they are (not) affected by today's outage. (status page shows no error for both) Attached the chart for one of my

[google-appengine] Re: CPU Time for Datastore Access

2011-02-08 Thread Strom
I'm not too sure how that iteration works under the covers, but if you want to iterate over the result set multiple times then this is surely faster: ListKeyFakeEntity arr = ofy.query(FakeEntity.class).filter(lookAtMe, woo).listKeys(); // Or use .list() to get the actual entities On Feb 7, 8:30 

[google-appengine] Re: What's the point of memcache incr decr?

2011-02-05 Thread Strom
I use it for accurate statistics display. Basically I have a counter of a certain kind of entities. Whenenever I create more of them I update the counter. The atomic action guarantees accurate statiscs for when I should create multiple entities concurrently. The fact that it can be sometimes wiped

[google-appengine] Re: I can't access my app from my computer. Google unusual traffic error message.

2011-01-27 Thread Strom
I also encountered this, as well as my clients. On Jan 27, 12:31 pm, Albert albertpa...@gmail.com wrote: I took a walk for a while. I just checked my app again. It's back now. I don't know if it's because I didn't access it for a while, or if Google fixed the problem. I hope everyone else's is

[google-appengine] Re: Blobstore uploads throwing errors

2011-01-25 Thread Strom
I'm also having major problems with the blobstore. Every single upload attempt gets a 500 response. On Jan 25, 1:38 pm, Nickolas Daskalou n...@daskalou.com wrote: An update: these errors are still occurring (almost 24 hours after first spotted) every time we attempt to upload to the Blobstore.