[google-appengine] Re: Datastore operations are seriously expensive

2011-11-07 Thread roberto.cr
It's sad how we find ourselves thinking about not implementing stuff, because of the pricing... The new pricing Model had to be implemented, we can all agree on that... but the pricing itself is too high! Does Google servers cost that much more than Amazon's? I'm sure that's not the case. On Nov

[google-appengine] Re: Datastore operations are seriously expensive

2011-11-07 Thread Gerald Tan
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[google-appengine] Re: Datastore operations are seriously expensive

2011-11-08 Thread Kenneth
I hear what you're saying, but at that rate I'm pretty much rewriting my application plus cost isn't even known. And I like the datastore. The problem as always is how the app was written. Users can update one field at a time on a data grid and save it back via ajax, so that's seriously not e

[google-appengine] Re: Datastore operations are seriously expensive

2011-11-08 Thread vlad
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[google-appengine] Re: Datastore operations are seriously expensive

2011-11-14 Thread Volker Thiel
> If you're churning through your datastore ops because you have 100 > indexes, you would have churned through your CPU quota before.  The > problem is you're trying to update too many indexes.  The only > solution is "don't". Not true. I had an application that I optimized in CPU usage and it was

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Datastore operations are seriously expensive

2011-11-08 Thread Rishi Arora
After managing my instances, I had a similar sticker shock with data store usage. However, the app stats utility, even though its really built around the old pricing model, was invaluable in telling me what my heavy hitters were in terms of data store ops. I implemented caching for my most import

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Datastore operations are seriously expensive

2011-11-08 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
FWIW, your app would have been a problem under the old pricing model as well. The only difference WRT the datastore is that instead of being charged "datastore operations" you were charged a magic number of "api_cpu_ms" per operation. The pricing model is pretty much the same, it's just more expe

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Datastore operations are seriously expensive

2011-11-08 Thread Alfred Fuller
Here is an article that can help you reduce the # of composite indexes you use in some cases: http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/indexselection.html On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: > FWIW, your app would have been a problem under the old pricing model > as well. The

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Datastore operations are seriously expensive

2011-11-14 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:27 AM, Volker Thiel wrote: > > If you're churning through your datastore ops because you have 100 > > indexes, you would have churned through your CPU quota before. The > > problem is you're trying to update too many indexes. The only > > solution is "don't". > > Not t