Re: [google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-06 Thread Niklas Rosencrantz
We can measure with yslow to see what we get. 50 ms I understand is good and 200 to 300 ms approvable. Where I need to optimize is where there are timeouts (where generating zip files) where responses are so slow as taking seconds. I measured with yslow and an idea, for optimization, is that we

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-06 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Niklas, Maybe you could also come up with a simple caching strategy for your rendered templates. Depending on the site, it might make content updates easier later on. Robert On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 07:14, Niklas Rosencrantz nikla...@gmail.com wrote: We can measure with yslow to see

Re: RE: RE: [google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-04 Thread Brandon Donnelson
Well said. :) I thinking the other day neutrinos or muons might be a good way to communicate on. :) Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To

[google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-04 Thread Brandon Donnelson
I got 40ms loading this http://demogwtcanvas.appspot.com/test.html Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-04 Thread johnP
Brandon - I had the exact same thought at the exact same time. On May 4, 10:10 am, Brandon Donnelson branflake2...@gmail.com wrote: I got 40ms loading thishttp://demogwtcanvas.appspot.com/test.html Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-04 Thread Niklas Rosencrantz
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Brandon Donnelson branflake2...@gmail.com wrote: I got 40ms loading this http://demogwtcanvas.appspot.com/test.html Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-04 Thread Brandon Donnelson
Its plain html no rendering. Eclipse uploaded. (mobile at moment) On May 4, 2011 11:04 AM, Niklas Rosencrantz nikla...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Brandon Donnelson branflake2...@gmail.com wrote: I got 40ms loading this http://demogwtcanvas.appspot.com/test.html Brandon

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-04 Thread Niklas Rosencrantz
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Brandon Donnelson branflake2...@gmail.com wrote: Its plain html no rendering. Eclipse uploaded. (mobile at moment) On May 4, 2011 11:04 AM, Niklas Rosencrantz nikla...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Brandon Donnelson branflake2...@gmail.com

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-04 Thread Brandon Donnelson
Heres a demo I used to test GWT init and load a while back. Check chrome developer tools network tab for trip times. When I set data to JDO through RPC the trip is taking around 192ms to 255ms to insert to JDO and return to tell me. http://demogaeloadtest.appspot.com/

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-02 Thread Sherif Amer
Dears, i have a question here, i have web application and want to migrate this web application to the cloud using GAE any idea how to do this ? Note: my application developed using JSF framework. On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Zach soimz...@gmail.com wrote: I'm running on Python GAE and also

[google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-02 Thread Yohan
Hi Brandon, So how do you explain that Google serves pages in 50ms when GAE serves pages at 300ms ? And what to say about Google instant. These guys can do better than 300ms for sure. I built my own config on a AWS instance relying on memcache+mysql+php it would server under 50ms. If you look at

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-02 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
I'm not sure where you are getting those numbers from, but the network routing looks like this: User makes request - goes to a Google front end - routed over Google's network to the serving data center - request is served The network layer shouldn't add that much latency, though we really only

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-02 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Also, I'd like to point out a LOT of what you think is dynamic content in Google land is static-ish. Search Results don't change every second, and the ones that do are popular enough that hundreds of 1000s of users are hitting them. Don't assume that just because you can't make something go as

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-02 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
D'oh, you must have caught on to my recent change: if(user == Brandon Wirtz) { Thread.sleep(200); } Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine Blog: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine On Mon, May

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-02 Thread Niklas Rosencrantz
Thanks for the interesting comments giving me some benchmarks to compare with. I've now measured my app with yslow and some of my pages load in about 200 ms while the slow ones take like 2 or 3 seconds. I used to run this application on a dedicated physical server running Linux + MySQL + JBoss

[google-appengine] Re: Is GAE expected to get faster in the future?

2011-05-01 Thread Zach
I'm running on Python GAE and also have an average latency under 300ms (normally in the 250-260 range). On May 1, 4:53 am, Brandon Wirtz drak...@digerat.com wrote: Yes that should be 310ms its almost 3am, and I should be sleeping. From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com