Re: [google-appengine] Re: full text search API is experimental, ready for a test drive

2012-05-15 Thread Christina Ilvento
Hi All, Let me provide a bit more background on our thinking for pricing for the Search API. We use the experimental phase for many APIs to test the API's stability, get developer feedback and to fine-tune our pricing. It's important to us that we only publish pricing when we are confident that

Re: [google-appengine] Re: full text search API is experimental, ready for a test drive

2012-05-15 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
I guess what I'm most interested in is knowing how it will compare, pricewise and performancewise, to using the datastore for FTS. Obviously the datastore doesn't provide all the bells and whistles, but it's pretty easy to store all the fragments of a set of words in an indexed list property. For

Re: [google-appengine] Re: full text search API is experimental, ready for a test drive

2012-05-13 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Adam Sah adam@gmail.com wrote:  - this is pre-release, and if you personally can't bear that risk, then let others play beta-tester for you.  - if Google waits for pricing before release then that delays the release, which nobody wants.  - pricing can

Re: [google-appengine] Re: full text search API is experimental, ready for a test drive

2012-05-11 Thread Adam Sah
(GAE team: congrats!!! on search-- please add clustered/grouped resultshttp://wiki.apache.org/solr/FieldCollapsingto your todo list-- it's very hard to emulate such a feature at the app layer) Jeff: - this is pre-release, and if you personally can't bear that risk, then let others play

[google-appengine] Re: full text search API is experimental, ready for a test drive

2012-05-10 Thread Kyle Finley
Congratulations! Would you be able to share an estimate on when the Search API will be available from the Go runtime? I understand that both are experimental, but is it actively being worked on or is still on the todo list? Thank you, Kyle -- You received this message because you are

Re: [google-appengine] Re: full text search API is experimental, ready for a test drive

2012-05-10 Thread Amy Unruh
hi Kyle, It is on the list, but we can't comment on any dates for it. On 11 May 2012 11:07, Kyle Finley kylefin...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations! Would you be able to share an estimate on when the Search API will be available from the Go runtime? I understand that both are experimental,

Re: [google-appengine] Re: full text search API is experimental, ready for a test drive

2012-05-10 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Ugorji ugo...@gmail.com wrote: If I sink in development time using it, and build my application to depend on it, and then the price is released and it's prohibitive to me, I've lost a fair amount of development time. I concur. It's not necessary to have a

[google-appengine] Re: full text search API is experimental, ready for a test drive

2012-05-08 Thread Ugorji
It will be nice if we had an idea of the price before committing to using it. We've been down this road before and it left a bad taste when the pricing was announced. On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 5:54:04 PM UTC-4, Christina Ilvento wrote: Hi All, As you may have noticed on our

Re: [google-appengine] Re: full text search API is experimental, ready for a test drive

2012-05-08 Thread Barry Hunter
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Ugorji wrote: It will be nice if we had an idea of the price before committing to using it. Surely the idea is you don't commit to using it until it graduates from experimental. The free quota is there to experiment (and help Google figure out how much it

Re: [google-appengine] Re: full text search API is experimental, ready for a test drive

2012-05-08 Thread Ugorji
I think features have been released before but we knew the price (TaskQueues, etc). The feature is out of trusted testers mode (after many many months). It's now in experimental but generally available mode, which tells me that the API's may change somewhat but the feature is here to stay.

[google-appengine] Re: full text search API is experimental, ready for a test drive

2012-05-08 Thread pman
based on existing pricing model - imho its price will be high. more indexes + more datastore (storage, read, write, ...) + more instances needed + ... On May 9, 7:49 am, Ugorji ugo...@gmail.com wrote: I think features have been released before but we knew the price (TaskQueues, etc). The