[Google Wave APIs] Re: Moving waves into folders with API

2009-11-17 Thread cmdskp
I guess the other thing we are forgetting is the potential for one of wave's greatest feature - playback. The possibility is there to also have playback for robot actions on a user's waves & folders, etc. Since they could all be performed through the API, they could be rolled back easily by the u

[Google Wave APIs] Re: Moving waves into folders with API

2009-11-17 Thread cmdskp
There are many interesting ideas raised by considering robots as tools to act on a users behalf or in concert with them. With respect to folder management, I do not see any problem with a robot requesting movement via the API of waves into or between a user's folders (deleting can be handled by mo

[Google Wave APIs] Re: Moving waves into folders with API

2009-11-17 Thread Olreich
Robots, on Wave at least, seem to be intended to be participants in the wave. Thus, Robots that operate on behalf of the user would be confusing. However, there is already a system in place that acts on behalf of the user, and that is Extensions, which are intrinsic to a user, rather than a wave. T

[Google Wave APIs] Re: Moving waves into folders with API

2009-11-17 Thread jhb
This is also useful from a semantic web point of view which is why I made the request. Using a unique ontology or webservice like OpenCalais, documents that are co-created could be tagged easily as well as categorized, the tags are easy to get as well as a general area or topic, using this informa

Re: [Google Wave APIs] Re: Moving waves into folders with API

2009-11-17 Thread pamela (Google Employee)
I imagine that we could implement robots or robot-like agents that participate on the Wave on your behalf, instead of as an additional participant. The API would be very similar to robots, but there would likely be additional UI for users to confirm that these robot-like agents could act on their b

Re: [Google Wave APIs] Re: Moving waves into folders with API

2009-11-17 Thread Adam Ness
Odd, the behavior must have changed, when I was working with it a week ago, It wasn't creating new wavelets, but I was actually using RootMessageBundle.createWavelet(participants), so maybe they're not the same. It definitely points to an issue with the documentation, it should be clearly spelled

[Google Wave APIs] Re: Moving waves into folders with API

2009-11-17 Thread Olreich
Have you tried it recently? Because every time I use it it creates a new wave. And I try it again...and it still creates a new wave. The Python version might create a new wavelet inside of the wave like it's supposed to, but the Java API most certainly creates a new wave. To clarify, I was speakin

Re: [Google Wave APIs] Re: Moving waves into folders with API

2009-11-17 Thread Adam Ness
Also, wavelet.createWavelet(participants, dataDocumentCallback); in java doesn't create a new wave, it only creates a new wavelet inside an existing wave. Adam Ness On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Olreich wrote: > I agree with almost everything you said. Just one quick point on the > Robot's c

Re: [Google Wave APIs] Re: Moving waves into folders with API

2009-11-17 Thread Adam Ness
But what if I read a wave which you added that gadget or robot to, and I don't want that gadget or robot to automatically manage my folders? On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Olreich wrote: > I agree with almost everything you said. Just one quick point on the > Robot's creating waves: > > wavele

[Google Wave APIs] Re: Moving waves into folders with API

2009-11-17 Thread Olreich
I agree with almost everything you said. Just one quick point on the Robot's creating waves: wavelet.createWavelet(participants, dataDocumentCallback); in Java or robot_abstract.NewWave(context, participants) in Python It is possible, as Robots are indeed full participants in the system as if t

Re: [Google Wave APIs] Re: Moving waves into folders with API

2009-11-16 Thread Adam Ness
Actually, there's no way in the current Robot API to create a wave. Robots can only respond to new blips on an existing wave. Also, because the robots operate within waves, allowing Robots to assign waves to folders is problematic, because it's not clear which user's folders receive the wave. If

[Google Wave APIs] Re: Moving waves into folders with API

2009-11-16 Thread Olreich
The problem is that Robots can create a mass of waves, but can't organize it very well for the user, so the user wouldn't want a robot to do anything outside of the wave, but rather operate entirely within. Allowing robots to organize themselves would be expand them outside of a wave-by-wave basis

[Google Wave APIs] Re: Moving waves into folders with API

2009-11-16 Thread Olreich
Lol, I just submitted a feature request for that yesterday xD http://code.google.com/p/google-wave-resources/issues/detail?id=462 On Nov 17, 1:03 am, jhb wrote: > Thanks for the discussion.  I created a feature request and added some > of the ideas discussed. > > http://code.google.com/p/google-

[Google Wave APIs] Re: Moving waves into folders with API

2009-11-16 Thread jhb
Thanks for the discussion. I created a feature request and added some of the ideas discussed. http://code.google.com/p/google-wave-resources/issues/detail?id=469 On Nov 15, 2:19 am, Bálint Kriván wrote: > Well, it's a good idea. Maybe one could "star/highlight" particular tags > with a style