Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-30 Thread Michael W
I suggest you to add Google analytics to your website. It will give your some data of how many users come to your site with IE6 as well as other browsers. It is free and easy to use. https://www.google.com/analytics/settings/home Give you some idea: for our site, I see 8% of users use IE6. As we

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-30 Thread Christian Goudreau
Since you have multimillion users, you would help getting rid of those IE6 by letting them know to consider upgrading and telling them how to do that. There's a proportion of them that only don't know that there's something else out there and I think we could increase the changing rate by a little

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-23 Thread lineman78
One little trick you can use is use firebug to inspect the table you want to experiment with and copy it's html to a flat html file and open the html file with IE and play around with it till you get it right. The trick is to get the html how you want it, then roll the changes into the java code

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-23 Thread Sven
Hi Magnus, I do it like this: public static native String getUserAgent() /*-{ return navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase(); }-*/; public void onModuleLoad() { if (MyMainClass.getUserAgent().contains(msie 6.0)) {

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-23 Thread Christian Goudreau
You could also use that strategie that is only viable with Internet Explorer. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537512(VS.85).aspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537512(VS.85).aspxCheers, On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Sven sven.ti...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Magnus, I

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-23 Thread Stefan Bachert
Hi to all, There is no need for jsni. http://google-web-toolkit.googlecode.com/svn/javadoc/2.0/com/google/gwt/user/client/Window.Navigator.html Window.Navigator.getNavigator() should do the job. a link to the download page(s) of modern browser may be useful, too. Stefan Bachert

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-23 Thread nacho
Is so easy and free to install FF in any computer, that i don't know why developers must keep loosing time with IE6. When someone's want's a web development we must say Ok, but i will not do it IE6 compliant, Google doesn't losses any more time in that, why should we? I don't loose time in that.

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-23 Thread Christian Goudreau
I still have some with IE7 lol At least it's lesser than with IE6 :D On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:28 AM, nacho vela.igna...@gmail.com wrote: Is so easy and free to install FF in any computer, that i don't know why developers must keep loosing time with IE6. When someone's want's a web

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-22 Thread Stefan Bachert
Hi, I would not spend the time. IE6 is primary used by companies using old software not willing to upgrade. It is a pain to support IE6 and such customer do not pay for service. Your customers are rather private. You could expect from them to download a modern browser like FF or Chrome. (If not

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-22 Thread RPB
To any who might be interested, these statistics on browser usage are normally kept quite up to date: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp On Jul 22, 8:32 am, Stefan Bachert stefanbach...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi, I would not spend the time. IE6 is primary used by companies using

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-22 Thread Magnus
Hi, sorry for repeating: I thought that the promise of GWT was that one never ever has to deal with such problems anymore? Why are we discussing about wether to spent time in supporting IE6 while the GWT compiler should do this? Magnus -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-22 Thread Isaac Truett
GWT doesn't promise to make your application look the same on all browsers. It does try its very best to make sure that the JS it produces functions the same across browsers, and doesn't leave any nasty side effects, leak memory, or anything like that. There may be some cases where GWT will

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-22 Thread Christian Goudreau
Let's drop IE6 and IE7 support, I think it's time anyway for that. On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Isaac Truett itru...@gmail.com wrote: GWT doesn't promise to make your application look the same on all browsers. It does try its very best to make sure that the JS it produces functions the

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-22 Thread charlie
Agreed. It's been the bane of web developers existence for far too long. On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Christian Goudreau goudreau.christ...@gmail.com wrote: Let's drop IE6 and IE7 support, I think it's time anyway for that. On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Isaac Truett

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-22 Thread Brett Thomas
I think it looks classy to display a note for IE6 users that says something along the lines of unfortunately our website no longer supports IE6, click here to learn how to upgrade I think plenty of people have no idea what browser version they are using. They may know the difference between IE

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-22 Thread lineman78
GWT does not promise that all renderings look the same, but instead gives you the tools to do so efficiently. For example, IE does not render borders around empty cells in a table, but FF and webkit do. It is up to you to set the CSS to tell IE to also render them. The IE widgets do promise to

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-22 Thread dane.molotok
I agree with you, but there's still the issue of when your application has to be consumable by an enterprise, where the end user does not have permission to install an alternative browser, upgrade the one they have, or install the Google Chrome Frame plugin (+1). On Jul 22, 1:03 pm, Brett Thomas

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-22 Thread Mateo
Ahem... www dot makeuseof dot com/tech-fun/here-is-why-web-developers- hate-ie6/ Agreed with Brett. Or just do like Google did: googlewavedev dot blogspot dot com/2009/09/google-wave-in-internet- explorer.html ...They can use IE, but they've been warned. Then you really don't have to worry about

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-22 Thread Magnus
Hi Brett, ok, but BTW: How can one do this, i. e. determine the browser version with GWT? Magnus On Jul 22, 8:03 pm, Brett Thomas brettptho...@gmail.com wrote: I think it looks classy to display a note for IE6 users that says something along the lines of unfortunately our website no longer

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-22 Thread Magnus
Hi Lineman! Make sure you specifically set cellpadding and cellspacing to 0 (IE assumes non-zero for one of these, don't remember which). I already found out something: First, I only set the margin/padding values to 0 in the Java code, wich worked on browsers other than IE6. Then, I *also* set

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-22 Thread Christian Goudreau
Do it with old natural ways in the html host file. Cheers On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Magnus alpineblas...@googlemail.comwrote: Hi Lineman! Make sure you specifically set cellpadding and cellspacing to 0 (IE assumes non-zero for one of these, don't remember which). I already found

GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-21 Thread Magnus
Hi, my GWT app works great under current browsers, but it looks ugly under IE6: http://www.lfstad-chess-club.de:8080/ics/ Should I spent effort in finding out the reasons or isn't it worth the work? Thanks Magnus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-21 Thread lineman78
depends on your target audience. The majority of IE6 users are either enterprise or people who are running XP SP1. On Jul 21, 10:11 am, Magnus alpineblas...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, my GWT app works great under current browsers, but it looks ugly under

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-21 Thread Alexander Orlov
Google has dropped its support for IE6 on YouTube and Google Docs. I don't see a reason for supporting it if you haven't a REALLY good reason. On Jul 21, 6:11 pm, Magnus alpineblas...@googlemail.com wrote: my GWT app works great under current browsers, but it looks ugly under

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-21 Thread lineman78
Most large corporations in the US still use IE6 as the primary browser and XP as the primary OS. My company just recently approved the regular use of FF, but you must request it and it is several versions behind the latest. Chrome is regularly rejected. Some computers on our network have IE7,

Re: GWT app looks ugly in IE6

2010-07-21 Thread Magnus
Ok, I see that IE6 can be important for some audience, but I thought GWT was here to keep me away from dealing with browser tweaks? I just built everything with panels and widges and I do not care how it is compiled into JS. But I found that the chess board is filled with gaps: