Re: Login security question

2011-04-13 Thread Leung
--- On Tue, 4/12/11, Raphael André Bauer raphael.andre.ba...@gmail.com wrote: From: Raphael André Bauer raphael.andre.ba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Login security question To: google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com Cc: Leung leung1_2...@yahoo.com Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 9:39 PM On Tue

Login security question

2011-04-12 Thread Leung
Hi According to article LoginSecurityFAQ, http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit-incubator/wiki/LoginSecurityFAQ , I have a point that I really want someone to make it clear for me. From the article, Your server will then validate this login, and return a sessionID to your GWT app. The

Re: Login security question

2011-04-12 Thread Raphael André Bauer
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Leung leung1_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi According to article LoginSecurityFAQ, http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit-incubator/wiki/LoginSecurityFAQ , I have a point that I really want someone to make it clear for me. From the article, Your server

Re: Login security question

2011-04-12 Thread Lukasz
Hi Leung, if you're realizing the log in and log out functionality within your GWT app and not with other mechanism (e.g. container based authentication), you just need to make sure that the log-in RPC call to the server returns an unique sessionID to your client. For the generation of the

Re: Login security question

2008-12-30 Thread akutz
FYI - I figured out how to elegantly handle this requirement. I overrode the onBeforeRequestDeserialized method and verify the verifID (what I call it) in there. I ignore the login method and invoke doUnexpectedFailure for any method that does not pass the correct verifID. // Find the

Login security question

2008-12-29 Thread akutz
Per the Login Security FAQ (http://code.google.com/p/google-web- toolkit-incubator/wiki/LoginSecurityFAQ) I have a few questions: 1) We're storing the SID in a client-side cookie and then the GWT app is grabbing that and sending it to the server with each RPC request. How is that any different

Re: Login security question

2008-12-29 Thread mikedshaf...@gmail.com
I can answer the 2nd the fastest. It does make sense to have Tomcat or whatever server handle things, until you have a multi-server cluster. Then typical session management ideals are tossed out the window. On Dec 29, 7:10 am, akutz sak...@gmail.com wrote: Per the Login Security FAQ

Re: Login security question

2008-12-29 Thread Ian Bambury
And the answer to #1 is 'there is no difference' if you do it that way - but you shouldn't be getting it from a cookie at all, you should be storing it in the app. It's pretty obvious that if you get it from the cookie, someone can replace the cookie; if you store it in the app, replacing the

Re: Login security question

2008-12-29 Thread Nicky
If you do 1) you open yourself to XSRF attacks. Read this article (http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit/web/security-for- gwt-applications) on how to avoid this by submitting a duplicate field with the cookie value and verifying it on the server end before executing the request For

Re: Login security question

2008-12-29 Thread akutz
Ultimately I think much of my concern will be moot because SSL will be turned on at all times. However, I do love academic discussions. As for #1, let's say we refresh the page or the user closes the browser and comes back. Either of those events requires the application to initializes its static

Re: Login security question

2008-12-29 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
akutz: ** YOU COULDNT BE MORE WRONG ** SSL protects against many things, but it does *NOT* protect against XSRF. Which is -exactly- what you're opening yourself up to if you only rely on the cookie automatically sent by the browser in the form of the 'Cookie' header - which is the mechanism

Re: Login security question

2008-12-29 Thread akutz
I appreciate the response, but you're a complete and total ass. I do not know why people let you get away with acting the way you do. We come here for help, not abuse. We're not idiots, we simply don't understand the subject as well as you do. I've seen your other responses, and you are just as

Re: Login security question

2008-12-29 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
So I'm not to reply to you but you do engage in a long missive to explain your situation and then ask for help? Let me know how calling people an ass before asking for help works out for you. On Dec 30, 12:47 am, akutz sak...@gmail.com wrote: I appreciate the response, but you're a complete

Re: Login security question

2008-12-29 Thread akutz
I'm very grateful for your help, but not your attitude. If there is anyone who would like to help me in a polite manner, I'd be more than happy to listen to you. I enjoy being educated, and I often miss the forest for the trees, but I do expect a certain amount of mutual courtesy. What do you