Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

See... http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/2011/11/gwt-and-dart.html The Google Web Toolkit team has been asked recently about our plans following the announcement of the Dart programming language a few weeks ago. Dart and GWT both share the goal of enabling structured

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

Great point. I find a mixed GWT approach works best in this situation so to maximize search spider indexing. I find, it's not that it doesn't work, the angle of approach has to change. One way to use GWT with CMS is to render the HTML via servlet and edit it via GWT or intermixing the GWT like

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

GWT is good at RIA, but not fit for CMS which values SEO. Actually SEO in all AJAX applications is a challenge. The solution provided by Google (#!) hasn't been adopted by other search engines. Regards, Warren Tang On 11/7/2011 12:15 AM, Brandon Donnelson wrote: I thi

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

I think GWT is awesome for any type of web application. I think RPC is by far the easiest to use and work with, especially if you're new to GWT. There are many communication paths you can do with GWT and they all work great. I'm sure Dart will have some libs to deal with communicating down th

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

Hi Krespo, Everything depends upon your specific need. So answering these questions without any background is quite hazardous. 1) yes I mean like YES if you are developing an app - in my experience GWT is the only valid solution for complex app 2) no 3) yes because you are not willing to use ja

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

Hallo, I want ask what do you commend for new project(which option from listed under): 1. Do you commend use GWT ? 2. Do you commend wait some time for dart(in this case how long) ? 3. Do you commend use GWT REST (not RPC) and latter rewrite frontend into Dart ? I anticipate that Dart won't use

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

Thank you for sharing Thomas. Visualfox.me is a small design and strategy firm and we use GWT since few years now. Our use of GWT is unorthodox as we focus more on the visual/design aspect. Actually I think that one of the strength of GWT which is currently totally underused and underestimated. I

RE: future of gwt & who use gwt

nt of work needed for such app if you use JavaScript -Sergey From: google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chandler Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 11:49 AM To: google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: future of gwt & wh

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

Hi Warren, Glad you found my SenchaCon slides (thanks, Thomas--I should have posted them here, too). Let me put some context around "fewer releases, less overhaul." Sencha's Darrell Meyer and Sven Brunken did a huge refactoring of Ext GWT last year to make it more compatible with mainline GWT. Thi

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I also found out recently that the Google Checkout store gadgetis built with GWT. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

For the original posters question of GWT applications out there, I can offer two of my own modest pieces of work http://www.rateoholic.co.uk (A website for reviewing stuff, the whole interface is GWT with a MySQL/PHP backend) http://www.cuyperscode.com/cuyperscode/CuypersCode2/CCIIstart.html (A o

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

I initial had this thought when it came out but then found the future is bright for GWT. I'm seeing extensive development planned and in progress for GWT after reading posts from the engineers. Even if and when it development does trend to dart, its really similar migration and I believe GWT ju

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

The following line is also important: (GWT) Aiming for fewer releases, less overhaul. Regards, Warren Tang On Saturday, October 29, 2011 11:04:09 AM, Thomas Broyer wrote: David Chandler recently put his SenchaCon slides online: http://www.dartlang.org/slides/2011/10/s

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

David Chandler recently put his SenchaCon slides online: http://www.dartlang.org/slides/2011/10/senchacon/index.html#39 "What about GWT? Google is heavily invested" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To view this discussion

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

I think in the future GWT will compile to Dart for browsers that support Dart and compile to JS (using the dart compiler) for older browsers. Also it seems like that (typed) Dart syntax is very similar to Java so it should be possible to convert a GWT/Java project to Dart. It wouldn't be compl

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

Dart is yet very very young.. .I think it will take more than two years to gain popularity and acceptance(if at all?), also all browser vendors (like Microsoft) acceptance. So why worry right now about Dart? Any way new client side technologies keep coming every year. If at all Dart gains popularit

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

hi thomas, thanks for link to infoq article about dart - so... it seems my guess is possibly right :) - but it's long long way ahead. as to mentioned issue with hashmap - i find it feature rather than problem. and that case is even not java-javascript but ie specific implementation issue. and as

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

[This is not the place to discuss Dart, please follow up on https://groups.google.com/a/dartlang.org/group/misc/topics (which I do not follow) ] On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 12:19:54 AM UTC+2, Tomasz Gawel wrote: > > > I still don't understand the need for dart. > Have a look at www.infoq.com/

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

> The death of Go seems to me that Dart is just another experiment of Google. When did Go die? Also, if it were dead, why did Google introduce it in the most recent AppEngine API? That was two weeks ago. http://blog.golang.org/2011/10/go-app-engine-sdk-155-released.html Just asking... Shawn -

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

Another language, oh my... The death of Go seems to me that Dart is just another experiment of Google. Whether it will gain popularity or not is under question. Replacing GWT (Java) with something else will definitely drive away many java programmers, who are already overburdened by so many te

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

We have Scala to replace Java and it will be available in GWT (see: http://groups.google.com/group/scalagwt ). On 24 oct, 19:29, Harpal Grover wrote: > This is a very interesting viewpoint in my opinion - "as i look closer at > DART i start to suspect that probably it is not to replace javascript

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

This is a very interesting viewpoint in my opinion - "as i look closer at DART i start to suspect that probably it is not to replace javascript but to replace java (and so avoid dependence to oracle) but do they think they can provide something better than java which gained its maturity over years?

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

I still don't understand the need for dart. if it would be cross-compiled so where is the advantage over gwt? in gwt we have the language that we allready know and tools that were worked out over years. if it will be incorporated into browser as virtual machine than just why not to incorporate th

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

I think, that it should be honest from Google to speak where is true and what will be future of GWT. It's better to speak that future GWT is nothing such as speak nothing. When google not aware this fact, I think it will gradually became haters company (eg Microsoft) in the comunity. -- You re

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

jquery != problem with browser compatibility. People will make sure jquery 'still works' *long after* Google stops working on GWT and open sources it. (Not good or bad, just obviously true) Roger On Oct 23, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Rori Stumpf wrote: > > I have a greater fear of having to use plain

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

I have a greater fear of having to use plain old Javascript/JQuery and the minefield of cross-browser compatibility, than GWT's product path... :-) On Oct 22, 1:27 pm, krespo wrote: > when I good understand, google wanted for some period support GWT, but they > don't want to extend funciontality

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

> Don't worry, it will be supported for long time beside the fact, Of course, as Google uses it a lot internal, but I think what's more important: adding new features that people are "waiting" for as time passes and applications demand more rich features. I am more worried about the future of GWT'

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

when I good understand, google wanted for some period support GWT, but they don't want to extend funciontality of GWT(maybe will recover existing bugs). They want to migrate existing GWT users into DART. But in this Dart way I see some disadvantages against GWT eg: 1. java lang on client and se

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

On 22 October 2011 18:09, Alan Chaney wrote: > @Krespo - if you are seriously worried about the future of GWT w.r.t Dart, > then a quick search on Google gives this: > > http://markmail.org/message/uro3jtoitlmq6x7t > > Purported to be a leaked internal email, but, who knows?.  Open the email > and

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

@Krespo - if you are seriously worried about the future of GWT w.r.t Dart, then a quick search on Google gives this: http://markmail.org/message/uro3jtoitlmq6x7t Purported to be a leaked internal email, but, who knows?. Open the email and search for "GWT" - you'll get your answer (for "Dash"

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

Yes, I thought statement from google GWT team. I think when going on this forum some people from GWT team,should give us some statement between relationship dart and GWT (or paste on the blog). Without unclear future I can't choose GWT for out project, and I think that more people will be think

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

On Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:15:35 PM UTC+2, krespo wrote: > > Hallo, I have 2questions: > 1. How is the future of gwt , after Dart release ? Will you continuously > migrate users into Dart, or Dart hasnt impact on GWT platform ? > (GWT use RPC, but Dart not, it's not java) > See https://gro

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 is there a good dart ide? no. question answered. :) Am 22.10.2011 13:28, schrieb krespo: > I asked it becouse I will start new project(single page app) > scalable app, and I'm thinking when is it wort to start new GWT > project, or wait for some time

Re: future of gwt & who use gwt

I asked it becouse I will start new project(single page app) scalable app, and I'm thinking when is it wort to start new GWT project, or wait for some time(for example 5months) and start it with Dart ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web T

future of gwt & who use gwt

Hallo, I have 2questions: 1. How is the future of gwt , after Dart release ? Will you continuously migrate users into Dart, or Dart hasnt impact on GWT platform ? (GWT use RPC, but Dart not, it's not java) 2. where can I found some GWT real world applications (please URL) ? -- You received this