Re: lots of fatal build system bugs on OpenBSD

2022-03-22 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi, Ingo! At 2022-03-22T00:54:05+0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: [...] > There are so many issues already now that it makes sense to get > these fixed before even starting a review for cleanliness and > before starting run time testing. Yes. I think nearly all of the issues arise from two deficiencie

Re: [BUG] groff: inconsistent behavior of " to separate arguments

2022-03-22 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Ralph, At 2022-03-21T10:24:06+, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi Branden, > > > At 2022-03-20T10:48:56+0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > > > When a double-quoted word is not space-separated from an adjacent > > > > word, it's not considered a different argument _except_ if if is > > > > the first a

identifier length in AT&T and GNU troff

2022-03-22 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Ralph, At 2022-03-21T10:33:20+, Ralph Corderoy wrote: [I said:] > > We get used to delimiters being paired. :) > > Depends on the delimiter: colon is an example, comma another. Those are good examples of delimiters that pair with themselves, say in ed(1) address expressions or sed(1) rep

Re: lots of fatal build system bugs

2022-03-22 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Ingo, > It would no doubt be better if i tested more often and did not let so > many issues accumulate. :-/ Once the current problems are fixed, would it be worth you automating the pull and build of new commits so the first breakage is flagged earlier? Either a program like https://www.buil

Re: identifier length in AT&T and GNU troff

2022-03-22 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Branden, > > > We get used to delimiters being paired. :) > > > > Depends on the delimiter: colon is an example, comma another. > > Those are good examples of delimiters that pair with themselves, say > in ed(1) address expressions or sed(1) replacement operations. I don't understand that po

Re: lots of fatal build system bugs

2022-03-22 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ralph, Ralph Corderoy wrote on Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:32:20AM +: > Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> It would no doubt be better if i tested more often and did not let so >> many issues accumulate. :-/ > Once the current problems are fixed, would it be worth you automating > the pull and build of

Re: lots of fatal build system bugs

2022-03-22 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Ingo, > > After a quick glance, you might just forward the errors on for > > others to sort out and it > > Not sure that would be a fair thing to do - what would *you* do with a > report like this: If it also gave a, possibly automated, indication of the commit with errors and an earlier commi

Re: lots of fatal build system bugs on OpenBSD

2022-03-22 Thread Douglas McIlroy
Tangential comment: I have always recoiled from git. The appearance of "diff --git" in Ingo's post reinforced my aversion.. --git is not mentioned in any documentation (man or texinfo) I could get my hands on. Gnu diff's 100-line help message is depressing enough even without --git. Where did --

Re: lots of fatal build system bugs

2022-03-22 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ralph, Ralph Corderoy wrote on Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 12:23:12PM +: > Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Ralph Corderoy wrote: >>> After a quick glance, you might just forward the errors on for >>> others to sort out and it >> Not sure that would be a fair thing to do - what would *you* do with a >> r

Re: CHECKSTYLE suggestions: unnecessary quotations and unnecessary \f escape

2022-03-22 Thread Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
Hi Ingo and Larry, On 3/22/22 03:44, Larry Kollar wrote: Ingo Schwarze wrote: For some reason, Ingo, I still don't get your emails. This time, not even in SPAM :(. Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) wrote on Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 05:07:09PM +0100: While fixing style issues in the man-pages pr

Re: lots of fatal build system bugs on OpenBSD

2022-03-22 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Doug, Douglas McIlroy wrote on Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 08:58:19AM -0400: > Tangential comment: > I have always recoiled from git. I agree to some extent. Git does get a number of things right, but there are also many aspects of its user interface and design that make it harder to use than neces

Re: lots of fatal build system bugs on OpenBSD

2022-03-22 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Branden, G. Branden Robinson wrote on Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 07:59:10PM +1100: > At 2022-03-22T00:54:05+0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> There are so many issues already now that it makes sense to get >> these fixed before even starting a review for cleanliness and >> before starting run time testi

Re: Release Candidate 1.23.0.rc1

2022-03-22 Thread Hans Unzner
Hi, are there any news regarding the schedule for the next release? Best Regards, Hans

Re: lots of fatal build system bugs on OpenBSD

2022-03-22 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Ingo Schwarze wrote in : |Douglas McIlroy wrote on Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 08:58:19AM -0400: |> Tangential comment: |> I have always recoiled from git. | |I agree to some extent. Git does get a number of things right, but |there are also many aspects of its user interface and design that make