Re: [GROW] [Sidrops] IXP Route Server question

2022-03-08 Thread Randy Bush
> If the underlying question is "should the ASPA path validation > algorithm have a corner case that accommodates this?", that is a > very, very firm "no" from me! aol ___ GROW mailing list GROW@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/grow

Re: [GROW] [Sidrops] IXP Route Server question

2022-03-08 Thread Ben Maddison
On 03/08, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 2:36 PM Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) > wrote: > > > This question has relevance to the ASPA method for route leak detection. > > > > Is it possible that an ISP AS A peers with a customer AS C via a > > non-transparent IXP AS B? > > IOW,

Re: [GROW] [Sidrops] IXP Route Server question

2022-03-08 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 3:33 PM Robert Raszuk wrote: > > Right - but IMO route leaking can happen both in the Internet or in > customer <- via IXP -> content provider interconnects. > > And in the latter case - especially for those with open peering policy - > often going via RS. After all this

Re: [GROW] IXP Route Server question

2022-03-08 Thread Nick Hilliard
Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) wrote on 08/03/2022 19:36: This question has relevance to the ASPA method for route leak detection. Is it possible that an ISP AS A peers with a customer AS C via a non-transparent IXP AS B? IOW, the AS path in routes propagated by the ISP A for customer C's prefixes

Re: [GROW] [Sidrops] IXP Route Server question

2022-03-08 Thread Robert Raszuk
Right - but IMO route leaking can happen both in the Internet or in customer <- via IXP -> content provider interconnects. And in the latter case - especially for those with open peering policy - often going via RS. After all this is how route servers are mainly used today :) So both sides will

Re: [GROW] [Sidrops] IXP Route Server question

2022-03-08 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 3:15 PM Robert Raszuk wrote: > Well I think the answer is - it depends. > > First IXP fabric can be used as pure L3 share LAN or can be used (and it > is often the case) as a p2p emulated VLAN over such L3 shared LAN. > > Now if this is L3 shared LAN still customer and ISP

Re: [GROW] [Sidrops] IXP Route Server question

2022-03-08 Thread Robert Raszuk
Well I think the answer is - it depends. First IXP fabric can be used as pure L3 share LAN or can be used (and it is often the case) as a p2p emulated VLAN over such L3 shared LAN. Now if this is L3 shared LAN still customer and ISP may peer directly and no third party traffic would be accepted

Re: [GROW] [Sidrops] IXP Route Server question

2022-03-08 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 2:36 PM Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) wrote: > This question has relevance to the ASPA method for route leak detection. > > Is it possible that an ISP AS A peers with a customer AS C via a > non-transparent IXP AS B? > IOW, the AS path in routes propagated by the ISP A for

[GROW] IXP Route Server question

2022-03-08 Thread Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
This question has relevance to the ASPA method for route leak detection. Is it possible that an ISP AS A peers with a customer AS C via a non-transparent IXP AS B? IOW, the AS path in routes propagated by the ISP A for customer C's prefixes looks like this: A B C. I.e., can the AS of a

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv-07.txt

2022-03-08 Thread Job Snijders
On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 12:43:37AM +0100, Paolo Lucente wrote: > I have processed all outstanding feedback for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv, once > again big thanks to Jeff Haas and Ben Maddison for their valuable new input, > plus indeed all reviewers. > > May i ask <= 5 mins of time to summarize the