Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-08-07 Thread Thomas King
Hi Grow WG, as already announced during IETF 93 I would like to ask for WG adoption for this I-D. Best regards, Thomas smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ GROW mailing list GROW@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-07-30 Thread Job Snijders
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:51:35AM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 05:43:42PM +, Thomas King wrote: > > > On 28 Jul 2015, at 17:34, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > > > One thing I'd recommend for the draft is explicit discussion about the > > > scope > > > of the community and its

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-07-30 Thread Jeffrey Haas
Thomas, On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 05:43:42PM +, Thomas King wrote: > > On 28 Jul 2015, at 17:34, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > > One thing I'd recommend for the draft is explicit discussion about the scope > > of the community and its expected propagation characteristics. > > I just uploaded a revised

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-07-29 Thread Thomas King
> On 28 Jul 2015, at 17:34, Jeffrey Haas wrote: … > One thing I'd recommend for the draft is explicit discussion about the scope > of the community and its expected propagation characteristics. I just uploaded a revised version of the draft. It contains an overhauled section 3 (Operational Re

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-07-28 Thread Jeffrey Haas
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 01:23:07PM +0200, Jon Mitchell wrote: > > Comment at the mic from today’s GROW session: > > > > Please be mindful of “prior art” (as Joel Jaggeli described it) regarding > > the use of AS65535. > > > > RFC7300 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7300 > > I believe this draft'

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-07-23 Thread Thomas King
> On 23 Jul 2015, at 13:23, Jon Mitchell wrote: > > > > >> On Jul 20, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Geoff Huston wrote: >> >> Comment at the mic from today’s GROW session: >> >> Please be mindful of “prior art” (as Joel Jaggeli described it) regarding >> the use of AS65535. >> >> RFC7300 http://tool

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-07-23 Thread Jon Mitchell
> On Jul 20, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Geoff Huston wrote: > > Comment at the mic from today’s GROW session: > > Please be mindful of “prior art” (as Joel Jaggeli described it) regarding the > use of AS65535. > > RFC7300 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7300 I believe this draft's use of well known

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-07-20 Thread Geoff Huston
Comment at the mic from today’s GROW session: Please be mindful of “prior art” (as Joel Jaggeli described it) regarding the use of AS65535. RFC7300 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7300 which talks about the use of communities of AS65535. You may want to consider what community you want to use in

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-07-01 Thread Thomas King
Hi Job et all, > On 26 Jun 2015, at 21:27, Job Snijders wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 06:27:23PM +, Thomas King wrote: >>> Another remark, should you decide to rename BLACKHOLEIXP to just >>> BLACKHOLE, you might want to replace the references to "IXP" throughout >>> the document and ma

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-06-26 Thread Job Snijders
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 06:27:23PM +, Thomas King wrote: > > Another remark, should you decide to rename BLACKHOLEIXP to just > > BLACKHOLE, you might want to replace the references to "IXP" throughout > > the document and make it more general. > > I am not sure if a more general approach (= I

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-06-26 Thread Job Snijders
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 02:51:55PM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 06:27:23PM +, Thomas King wrote: > > so, do you propose that the IXP RS MUST add a NO_EXPORT to the route > > that passed the IRR filters and which is requested to be blackholed? > > This is completely fine

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-06-26 Thread Jeffrey Haas
Thomas, On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 03:50:36PM +, Thomas King wrote: > I added the following text to the draft: > The presence of this BLACKHOLEIXP BGP community may introduce a resource > exhaustion attack to BGP speakers. If a BGP speaker receives many IP prefixes > containing the BLACKHOLE BG

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-06-26 Thread Jeffrey Haas
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 06:27:23PM +, Thomas King wrote: > so, do you propose that the IXP RS MUST add a NO_EXPORT to the route that > passed the IRR filters and which is requested to be blackholed? > This is completely fine with me. Or NO_ADVERTISE, if appropriate. I'm wondering if people w

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-06-26 Thread Thomas King
Hi Job et al, > On 26 Jun 2015, at 19:13, Job Snijders wrote: > > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 08:51:40PM +, Thomas King wrote: >> we submitted this document in order to unify and simplify triggering >> blackholing at IXPs. We propose to define a well-known BGP community >> for this. >> >> Any f

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-06-26 Thread Job Snijders
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 08:51:40PM +, Thomas King wrote: > we submitted this document in order to unify and simplify triggering > blackholing at IXPs. We propose to define a well-known BGP community > for this. > > Any feedback is highly appreciated. In every single RBTH implementation I know

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-06-26 Thread Thomas King
Hi Jeffrey et all, > On 15 Jun 2015, at 21:30, Jeffrey Haas wrote: … > I'm generally supportive of this draft. The Security Considerations cover > the majority of the issues this standardized blackhole community introduces. Thanks for your feedback. > I would suggest one additional considera

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-06-15 Thread Jeffrey Haas
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 08:51:40PM +, Thomas King wrote: > Hi Everybody, > > we submitted this document in order to unify and simplify triggering > blackholing at IXPs. We propose to define a well-known BGP community for this. > > Any feedback is highly appreciated. I'm generally supportive

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-blackholing-00.txt

2015-05-28 Thread Thomas King
Hi Everybody, we submitted this document in order to unify and simplify triggering blackholing at IXPs. We propose to define a well-known BGP community for this. Any feedback is highly appreciated. Best regards, Thomas > On 28 May 2015, at 20:59, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: > > > A new