Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-10-22 Thread Jon Cruz
On Oct 10, 2011, at 8:11 AM, John Ralls wrote: > I've made a lot of progress on this in the last few weeks. The wiki pages are > transferred, the gtk-osx, gtk-mac-integration, gtk-mac-bundler projects are > in git.gnome and ftp.gnome, and Kris has gotten most of the patches reviewed > and I've

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-10-11 Thread John Ralls
On Oct 11, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Paul Davis wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:11 PM, John Ralls wrote: > >> Please have a look and comment either here or directly to me. >> I'd like to merge this into gtk-web master by Thursday. > > looks good to me. we should also get ardour onto the ported-app

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-10-11 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:11 PM, John Ralls wrote: > Please have a look and comment either here or directly to me. > I'd like to merge this into gtk-web master by Thursday. looks good to me. we should also get ardour onto the ported-app list somehow. _

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-10-10 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Great stuff! Thanks a lot for the effort John, good job! :-) 2011/10/10 John Ralls > I've made a lot of progress on this in the last few weeks. The wiki pages > are transferred, the gtk-osx, gtk-mac-integration, gtk-mac-bundler projects > are in git.gnome and ftp.gnome, and Kris has gotten most

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-10-10 Thread John Ralls
I've made a lot of progress on this in the last few weeks. The wiki pages are transferred, the gtk-osx, gtk-mac-integration, gtk-mac-bundler projects are in git.gnome and ftp.gnome, and Kris has gotten most of the patches reviewed and I've pushed them. Now to the web page. I've written a replac

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-12 Thread John Ralls
On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > Now, on technical matters: > > I looked quickly at "git diff origin/master..origin/quartz-integration" > and the diff is very simple: > > * A bunch of changes to gdk-quartz and gtk*-quartz.c - I imagine that > these can be merged just

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-12 Thread Kristian Rietveld
On Sep 12, 2011, at 9:15 PM, John Ralls wrote: > > I rebased a local branch off quartz-integration against master and carefully > went through all of the changes. There were indeed a couple that didn't have > bugs, so I created the bugs and attached the relevant patches. There were > some other

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-09 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 9 September 2011 14:58, Allin Cottrell wrote: > On Fri, 9 Sep 2011, Michal Suchanek wrote: > > [something irritable] > > My reaction to the recent exchanges concerning GTK on both OS X and MS > Windows is quite different. Despite some snappishness the conversation seems > very encouraging for t

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-09 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011, Michal Suchanek wrote: [something irritable] My reaction to the recent exchanges concerning GTK on both OS X and MS Windows is quite different. Despite some snappishness the conversation seems very encouraging for the future of GTK as a cross-platform toolkit. Thanks, guys

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-09 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 8 September 2011 23:42, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:38:02AM -0700, John Ralls wrote: >> And the fact that I'm here shows that I agree. Shawn was here (until >> Olaf kicked him off this morning) for the same reason. I'm quite > > Shawn kicked himself off. If you are so conc

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-09 Thread Frederic Peters
John Ralls wrote: > Not moduleset, modulesets. Three sets of 9 modulesets. Also 36 > patches, some of which are obsolete and could be deleted (and a > bunch more that could become obsolete if they were approved for > committing to Gtk), a customized jhbuildrc and several examples for > further cus

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-08 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:38:02AM -0700, John Ralls wrote: > And the fact that I'm here shows that I agree. Shawn was here (until > Olaf kicked him off this morning) for the same reason. I'm quite Shawn kicked himself off. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-deve

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-08 Thread John Ralls
On Sep 7, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: > Le mardi 06 septembre 2011 à 16:34 -0700, John Ralls a écrit : >> I'm not going to respond to most of that. > I think you shouldn't take Emmanuele's tone so bad. ;-) > He's always very direct, but his point is right, and his suggestions are

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-08 Thread John Ralls
On Sep 8, 2011, at 4:55 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 05:28:21PM -0700, John Ralls wrote: >> The rest of Gtk-OSX isn't Gtk. It's a build system using jhbuild with >> its own modulesets, > The moduleset could just be in jhbuild? Not moduleset, modulesets. Three sets of 9 mod

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-08 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 12:34:59PM -0400, Shawn Bakhtiar wrote: > Emmanuel I understand you care about Jeff, and though I believe the initial message could be worded differently, I have to say: * pot calling the kettle black regarding tone on the mailing list * you're now banned from gtk-dev

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-08 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 05:28:21PM -0700, John Ralls wrote: > The rest of Gtk-OSX isn't Gtk. It's a build system using jhbuild with > its own modulesets, a python script for making application bundles, > and a few other bits and pieces, including gtk-quartz-engine, a Cocoa > HIT theme engine which

Fwd: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-08 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Forgot to "Reply All" :-) -- Forwarded message -- From: Alberto Ruiz Date: 2011/9/8 Subject: Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity To: John Ralls 2011/9/8 John Ralls > > The rest of Gtk-OSX isn't Gtk. It's a build system using jhbuild with its > ow

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-07 Thread John Ralls
On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 08:25 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > >> Windows and Linux build issues and support are handled on gnome.org: the >> Quartz backend of gtk is not in any regard special and it should not >> need separate resources.

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-07 Thread Kean Johnston
On 9/7/2011 6:34 PM, Shawn Bakhtiar wrote: EmmanuelYour an ass (as in donkey) Everyone just HAS to vent their spleen, don't they? I don't know John so maybe I am off base here but I'm fairly certain he is capable of defending himself quite well without that sort of useless comment. You

RE: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-07 Thread Shawn Bakhtiar
l. > Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 08:25:24 +0100 > From: eba...@gmail.com > To: p...@linuxaudiosystems.com > Subject: Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity > CC: gtk-devel-list@gnome.org > > hi Paul; > > On 2011-09-06 at 18:18, Paul Davis wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-07 Thread Andy Spencer
On 2011-09-07, Carlos Garnacho wrote: > That's the inverse of a recent commit of mine to master, not sure how it > slipped in the diff, maybe the branch is being compared to a more recent > master? Perhaps `git diff origin/master...origin/quartz-integration' would work better? P.S. As someone who

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-07 Thread Javier Jardón
2011/9/7 Javier Jardón : > On 7 September 2011 15:26, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: >> >> As to what is in Bugzilla, is there a quick way to find all the Quartz >> bugs to speed up their review?  (Or are those patches already in the >> quartz-integration branch?  I didn't look at individual commit

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-07 Thread Carlos Garnacho
Hey :), On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 09:26 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > * This bit: > > --- a/gdk/x11/gdkdevicemanager-xi2.c > +++ b/gdk/x11/gdkdevicemanager-xi2.c > @@ -417,10 +417,6 @@ gdk_x11_device_manager_xi2_constructed (GObject *object) >for (i = 0; i < ndevices; i++) > { >

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-07 Thread Javier Jardón
On 7 September 2011 15:26, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > As to what is in Bugzilla, is there a quick way to find all the Quartz > bugs to speed up their review?  (Or are those patches already in the > quartz-integration branch?  I didn't look at individual commits to see > if they had bug numb

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-07 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 08:25 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > Windows and Linux build issues and support are handled on gnome.org: the > Quartz backend of gtk is not in any regard special and it should not > need separate resources. One thing we have been bad at is learning to accept that sometimes

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-07 Thread Kristian Rietveld
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: > Le mardi 06 septembre 2011 à 16:34 -0700, John Ralls a écrit : >> It's not a fork of Gtk+ (yet, though on days like this one I get >> really tempted). I actually revived the gtk-osx project on SF; the >> previous version was an actual f

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-07 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le mardi 06 septembre 2011 à 16:34 -0700, John Ralls a écrit : > I'm not going to respond to most of that. I think you shouldn't take Emmanuele's tone so bad. ;-) He's always very direct, but his point is right, and his suggestions are actually the acknowledgment that your work is worth being part

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-07 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
hi Paul; On 2011-09-06 at 18:18, Paul Davis wrote: > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > > > otherwise you're just forking gtk, and using the resources of the gtk > > project to give an aura of officiality to what is essentially your own > > personal project. > > I'd polite

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-06 Thread John Ralls
On Sep 6, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > On 2011-09-06 at 13:32, John Ralls wrote: > >>> if there are patches for gtk-quartz, why are these inside at least three >>> branches instead of being committed to corresponding main line one? why >>> are these branch continuously being merged

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-06 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > otherwise you're just forking gtk, and using the resources of the gtk > project to give an aura of officiality to what is essentially your own > personal project. I'd politely request that you stop using this tone in connection with this i

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-06 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On 2011-09-06 at 13:32, John Ralls wrote: > > if there are patches for gtk-quartz, why are these inside at least three > > branches instead of being committed to corresponding main line one? why > > are these branch continuously being merged instead of being rebased, if > > they are personal branc

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-06 Thread John Ralls
On Sep 6, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Paul Davis wrote: > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: >> okay, I've tried to get ahold of the gtk-osx project for a while, now, >> but since sf.net is just a joke and decided to reject my @gmail.com >> emails, let's try here. >> >> can we *pleas

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-06 Thread John Ralls
On Sep 6, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > okay, I've tried to get ahold of the gtk-osx project for a while, now, > but since sf.net is just a joke and decided to reject my @gmail.com > emails, let's try here. > > can we *please* stop this madness: > > 17:05 < CIA-8> jralls quartz-in

Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-06 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > okay, I've tried to get ahold of the gtk-osx project for a while, now, > but since sf.net is just a joke and decided to reject my @gmail.com > emails, let's try here. > > can we *please* stop this madness: > > 17:05 < CIA-8> jralls quartz-in

GTK and OSX: a call to sanity

2011-09-06 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
okay, I've tried to get ahold of the gtk-osx project for a while, now, but since sf.net is just a joke and decided to reject my @gmail.com emails, let's try here. can we *please* stop this madness: 17:05 < CIA-8> jralls quartz-integration * r7e37d94f2178 gtk+/ (10 files in 4 dirs):