>My point was, that Yamaha in the past, in several areas,
>has shown a history of explaining what to expect a normal system to do. It
>was suggested that for any one of a number of reasons, Yamaha "knew" about
>this cycling, and chose not to mention it. My contention is that is not the
>way th
In a message dated 4/19/00 10:10:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< > Three that come to
> mind would be the V boost on a V Max, they do not fail to mention the
cycling
> of the V Boost system when the key is powered up, the EXUP system also
> cycles, and is also direc
> Three that come to
> mind would be the V boost on a V Max, they do not fail to mention the cycling
> of the V Boost system when the key is powered up, the EXUP system also
> cycles, and is also directly mentioned in printed format, and the power
> valves used on some current personal water craf
The points I have made about the operation of the ABS and Yamaha publishing
it in some form are based on similar information published by Yamaha on other
electrically operated components on other models. In my opinion, they are
consistant as stating the operations of theses components. Three th
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Date: Tuesday, April 18, 00 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: ABS cycles (lengthy and technical--delete if not interested)
>Ahhh, this is what started the whole discussion. So what did you do to get
rid
>of the whine sound comin
use as advertising
> > fodder.
> >
> > FWIW my 2 cents.
> >
> > Roger Van Santen
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Baker Terry-P27739 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Da
In a message dated 4/17/00 11:41:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Jay, you have no idea what I am supposed to know, and what I am not
supposed
to know. You are not the only one with resources... State
your opinion, but, do not tell me what I am not supposed to know.. peop
ents of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Monday, April 17, 00 11:42 AM
> Subject: Re: ABS cycles (lengthy and technical--delete if not interested)
>
> >OK--I think I understand (hopefully) where the misunderstanding is. I
> >contend that what I described is truly what the
nts of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, April 17, 00 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: ABS cycles (lengthy and technical--delete if not interested)
>OK--I think I understand (hopefully) where the misunderstanding is. I
>contend that what I described is truly what the system is designed to d
In a message dated 4/15/00 1:11:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< He wasn't supposed to know about it, Bob and neither are you. >>
Jay, you have no idea what I am supposed to know, and what I am not supposed
to know. You are not the only one with resources..
OK--I think I understand (hopefully) where the misunderstanding is. I
contend that what I described is truly what the system is designed to do.
In fact, a thorough study of the operation/purpose of the failsafe relay
confirms this whole point. What I think the misunderstanding is (I hope) is
tha
> I am not puzzled by your findings. I do not feel what you found is inherent
> to the design.
I think that Terry has given the only explanation yet as to why the ABS cycles on
a bumpy road. I can tell you that the pump "spins up" occasionaly on bumpy
roads. The pump also spins when the bike is
In a message dated 04/14/2000 7:21:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Anything that can be sold as advanced, new or better technology is spun
>in the sales force as a feature.
Lemme tell ya as a guy on the inside of sales brochure writing, that ain't
so. Before it can be sold as a "feature" in th
In a message dated 4/14/00 3:58:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I don't necessarily see the real process of what happens as a "feature" as
long as it happens.
SNIP
Anything that can be sold as advanced, new or better technology is spun in
the sales force as a featu
In a message dated 4/14/00 2:25:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
Thanks for keeping us aware of Yamaha's perspectives.
-K >>
Thanks Kelly, however, in fairness to Yamaha, those were my observations, not
theirs, which they would be happy to point out.
RSRBOB
>Terry,
>What you have experienced from improper assembly does not make it a design
>feature. What you describe would be a feature, a sales feature, that,
>certainly would be worth mentioning, if it exisited.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=
I don't necessarily see the real process of what happens as a "feature"
.. Yamaha, in
> my opinion, is a conservative company, and is sensitive to customer
safety,
> and their own liability. If they do not want critical complex components
> disassembled, they niether offer them avaible as individual pieces, or
offer
> information on how to service or repair them.
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Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 10:59 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: ABS cycles (lengthy and technical--delete if not
interested)
I agree, further discussion can
continue off list, I felt it important to respond to your explanation on
list
Terry,
What you have experienced from improper assembly does not make it a design
feature. What you describe would be a feature, a sales feature, that,
certainly would be worth mentioning, if it exisited. It would also stand to
reason that if this were supposed to happen, Yamaha has a responsib
> If I haven't thoroughly confused, irritated, or offended you, and you want
> to chat some more about this, we can take it offline, unless if the list
> likes all of this technical drivel. This whole process was quite an
Terry:
Please keep this ON LIST. I find it fascinating to read, even tho
>Terry,
>Not according to the service manual. It has to actually sense a
differential
>in wheel RPMs between front and rear, not rate of decel. What you describe
>sounds like a good theory, however, I can find no refrence to what you
>describe as self cycling or sensing decel in the service ma
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