Hello Guix!
DATE: Saturday, March 19, 2022.
TIME: 15:00 UTC
Duration: ~1.5hrs
Oops! Forgot to add the meeting link.
LINK: https://meet.nixnet.services/b/rag-8bi-sdx-kdf
P.S.
Thanks to NixNet for providing BBB service.
Regards,
Raghav "RG" Gururajan.
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Hello Guix!
WhereIsEveryone community is hosting a meetup regarding documentation in
Guix.
We'll be discussing and/or working on; adding new contents, removing
obsolete contents and improving contents where required. We can also
look into current documentation style/model and generate
feedb
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> Hi Oliver,
>
> Cool, hope to see you there!
>
> all best,
>
> jgart
>
Hi Guixers,
We had a great turn out and insightful discussions about contibuting to and
documenting Guix.
Here are the notes and chat log the people added to BBB from
On Sat, Jan 08, 2022 at 11:24:35AM -0500, Matt wrote:
> 2. http://excalamus.com/2021-10-06-guix-debug.html
The error about "profile contains conflicting entries" is something we
should improve the documentation about, for sure.
I opened a tracking bug about it:
https://issues.guix.gnu.org/53224
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 13:41:10 -0500 Leo Famulari
wrote
> On Sun, Jan 09, 2022 at 04:12:57PM -0500, Matt wrote:
> > I did. Maybe you missed the two blog posts I linked in the previous
> > email?
>
> Yeah, I did miss that you intended to contribute them.
>
> There is anothe
On Sun, Jan 09, 2022 at 04:12:57PM -0500, Matt wrote:
> I did. Maybe you missed the two blog posts I linked in the previous email?
>
Yeah, I did miss that you intended to contribute them.
There is another side of my advice about submitting your contributions
however you can: It's still impo
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 21:57:03 -0500 Matt wrote
>
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:20:30 -0500 jgart wrote
>
> > Have you read ambrevar's post called 'Guix Profiles in Practice'?
> >
> > Unfortunately ambrevar's blog seems to be down at the moment:
> >
> > https://am
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:20:30 -0500 jgart wrote
> Have you read ambrevar's post called 'Guix Profiles in Practice'?
>
> Unfortunately ambrevar's blog seems to be down at the moment:
>
> https://ambrevar.xyz/guix-profiles/index.html
>
No, I haven't. Thanks!
It's archived:
ht
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:59:37 -0500 Matt wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:24:20 -0500 jgart wrote
>
> > I'm looking forward to having you at the next docs meetup:
> >
> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2022-01/msg00189.html
> >
> > Are there any particular sections
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:24:20 -0500 jgart wrote
> I'm looking forward to having you at the next docs meetup:
>
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2022-01/msg00189.html
>
> Are there any particular sections in the guix manual that you would like
> to work on in the m
> I don't know how many people in the community have
> non-CS/Unix/programming backgrounds so I share some personal thoughts
> below. It's not that I want to share my life, but it might resonate
> with the experiences of others.
Thank you for sharing your story. It resonates with me as mine i
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 17:23:38 +0100 Oliver Propst
wrote:
> On 2022-01-11 17:01, jgart wrote:
> > Hi Guixers,
>
> Hi Jgart thanks for the *note.
>
> *will try to attend the meeting.
Hi Oliver,
Cool, hope to see you there!
all best,
jgart
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 08:15:34 -0500 Matt wrote:
> > Also if I understand things correctly there are
> > actually plans to host a documentation meetup this Saturday (maybe at
> > around 10:30 AM ET as the last ones).
>
> Thank you! I should be able to attend.
>
> Is that January 15, at 10:30
On 2022-01-11 17:01, jgart wrote:
Hi Guixers,
Hi Jgart thanks for the *note.
*will try to attend the meeting.
--
Kinds regards Oliver Propst
https://twitter.com/Opropst
Hi Guixers,
I want to invite you to the second Guix Documentation Meetup this Saturday,
Jan. 15, 2022.
The meetup will take place on Big Blue Button at the following room:
https://meet.nixnet.services/b/jga-rtw-ahw-yky
I want to thank nixnet for hosting the BBB!
The meeting will start at 10
Matt writes:
> > I'm not connected with Guix with any way - a mere enthusiast and
> > observer.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean. Being excited about something and taking
> the time to observe it, like listening to music, is a connection,
> right?
I mentioned because ultimately the final word i
> Please don't misinterpret the following comments. But I don't see how the
> 1st one
> could land in a cookbook.
You're fine, I more or less agree with you. I think something like it with a
different package would be helpful. What I wrote probably isn't it.
> Yes, I'm not a fan of wi
> Also if I understand things correctly there are
> actually plans to host a documentation meetup this Saturday (maybe at
> around 10:30 AM ET as the last ones).
Thank you! I should be able to attend.
Is that January 15, at 10:30 am EST using
https://meet.nixnet.services/b/jga-rtw-ahw-yky?
ET as the last ones).
On 2022-01-08 05:52, Matt wrote:
I want to be a part of this. I feel like I've been rubbing two sticks
together while it seems some people out there have Zippo lighters
Cool.
One final question:
How might announcements of the "Guix Documentation Meetup&q
Matt writes:
> > I see that this all seems confusing.
>
> Thank you for your response and for acknowledging my perspective.
> Yes, I find many things about the documentation process confusing. I
> can't speak for others, but I get the strong sense that I'm not alone
> in that feeling.
You're no
> I see that this all seems confusing.
Thank you for your response and for acknowledging my perspective. Yes, I find
many things about the documentation process confusing. I can't speak for
others, but I get the strong sense that I'm not alone in that feeling.
> If you have something to
>
On Sat, Jan 08, 2022 at 11:24:35AM -0500, Matt wrote:
> Let me walk through what that looks like from my perspective. I'm afraid,
> however, that it comes across as aggressive, ungrateful, or demanding. None
> of those are my intent! I genuinely want to help but struggle to understand
> the pr
Matt writes:
> > > I would like for Guix to host a community wiki (in addition to a more
> discoverable official documentation).
> >
> > That’s the purpose of the Cookbook, which is open to all contributors.
>
> The cookbook is a great resource. I'd like to contribute to it.
Cool, we’re a
> > I would like for Guix to host a community wiki (in addition to a more
> > discoverable official documentation).
>
> That’s the purpose of the Cookbook, which is open to all contributors.
The cookbook is a great resource. I'd like to contribute to it.
Let me walk through what that look
> Someone was frustrated there was no wiki, so they started that, but it's not
> official at all. Miraheze hosts other wikis, like the bootstrappable wiki, I
> think it's ok, but if we had a wiki, it should rather be hosted on gnu or
> guix infrastructure.
Thank you for clarifying. I now
Hello everyone,
Matt writes:
> > I would like for Guix to host a community wiki
>
> Agreed.
>
> Ironically, Guix already has two of them.
>
> 1. goto gnu.guix.org
> 2. Select wiki from the help menu
> 3. Discover that linked wiki is not a community wiki
> 4. Click the (supposed) community wiki:
Le 8 janvier 2022 14:41:53 GMT+01:00, Matt a écrit :
>
> > I would like for Guix to host a community wiki
>
>Agreed.
>
>Ironically, Guix already has two of them.
>
>1. goto gnu.guix.org
>2. Select wiki from the help menu
>3. Discover that linked wiki is not a community wiki
>4. Click the (supp
> I would like for Guix to host a community wiki
Agreed.
Ironically, Guix already has two of them.
1. goto gnu.guix.org
2. Select wiki from the help menu
3. Discover that linked wiki is not a community wiki
4. Click the (supposed) community wiki: https://guix.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
Is
I would like for Guix to host a community wiki (in addition to a more
discoverable official documentation).
That’s the purpose of the Cookbook, which is open to all contributors.
It is not a wiki. You can't edit and review easly, but must instead send a
contribution to someone (IRC or email
calcium writes:
> I would like for Guix to host a community wiki (in addition to a more
> discoverable official documentation).
That’s the purpose of the Cookbook, which is open to all contributors.
--
Ricardo
I strongly agree with matt about the importance of discoverability that is
currently lacking (`geiser-doc-symbol-at-point isn't enough).
Its pretty hard to find out how to do something beyond the basic usage.
I would like for Guix to host a community wiki (in addition to a more
discoverable off
t discoverable and,
more importantly, not correct, it's not helping anyone. I, and people like me,
need help from experts. That's why I'm so excited about this meet up. I know
I can string some words together enough to be understandable. But is what I'm
saying helpful?
One
adriano writes:
> Il giorno dom, 12/12/2021 alle 21.50 -0600, Katherine Cox-Buday ha scritto:
>> - In geiser, run =,a thing-i-want-to-look-for= (this is supposedly an
>> apropos command that is supposed to search symbols for you). The command
>> returns nothing.
> about this, I want to report a
Il giorno dom, 12/12/2021 alle 21.50 -0600, Katherine Cox-Buday ha
scritto:
> - In geiser, run =,a thing-i-want-to-look-for= (this is supposedly an
> apropos
> command that is supposed to search symbols for you). The command
> returns
> nothing. I realize I have to import the module implemen
Il giorno sab, 11/12/2021 alle 05.40 +0700, Blake Shaw ha scritto:
>
> hiya guix,
>
> @cybersyn from IRC here, I recently contributed my first package,
> [notcurses]
>
> --
> tldr: is there also room to discuss contributing -- and possibly
> doing a
> sizeable makeover to -- the *Guile* document
On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 20:12:48 +0100 zimoun wrote:
Hi all,
Just wanted to share the patches here from the meetup:
https://issues.guix.gnu.org/52505
all best,
jgart
Hi,
On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 at 18:37, Blake Shaw wrote:
>
> Blake Shaw writes:
>
> Simon, just peeped your monad tutorial, and gotta say its one of the
> clearest presentations of the subject I've seen. Great work!
Thanks. If it helps, I can share the Org source file.
Cheers,
simon
Blake Shaw writes:
Simon, just peeped your monad tutorial, and gotta say its one of the
clearest presentations of the subject I've seen. Great work!
>> I agree. For what it is worth, I tried once to quickly explain monad,
>> with the aim of “Store Monad“ in mind,
>>
>> https://guix.gnu.org/
Luis Felipe writes:
> Hi,
Hello! Thank you for adding some context around why things are laid out the way
they are.
I just wanted to respond again with gratitude for your work, and to plainly
state that I view this work as difficult, with no clear best practice.
Sincerely,
--
Katherine
Hi,
On Tuesday, December 14th, 2021 at 4:01 PM, Katherine Cox-Buday
wrote:
> Guile:
>
> - Tutorial for extending a C program with Guile
> - The manual
> - Scheme Resources
> - "The Revised^6 Report on the Algorithmic Language Scheme"
> - "" but 7
> - "" but 5
> -
Here is some analysis on various popular languages' documentation landing
pages. I did this on Sunday, but I held it back from my previous message
because it was already quite long, and I was worried this would be seen as
over-critical and maybe raise the ire of various language fans.
But I thi
Blake Shaw writes:
> Katherine Cox-Buday writes:
>
> Katherine, reading a big deeper into your user experience report, its really
> so so helpful to have this concrete sort of step-by-step user experience
> report.
Definitely! The first step to resolution is a common understanding.
> Would you
Katherine Cox-Buday writes:
Katherine, reading a big deeper into your user experience report,
its really so so helpful to have this concrete sort of step-by-step
user experience report. Would you mind if I solicit the list
for more reports like this for anyone who might feel like offering them?
A
Katherine Cox-Buday writes:
Katherine this is great material to chew on, much of which I can relate
to!
--
“In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni”
zimoun writes:
Hi Simon, thanks for the input,
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 at 05:40, Blake Shaw
> wrote:
>
>> --
>> tldr: is there also room to discuss contributing -- and possibly
>> doing a
>> sizeable makeover to -- the *Guile* documentation? If so, I could
>> give a
>> short 5 - 10 minutes
Hi,
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 at 05:40, Blake Shaw wrote:
> --
> tldr: is there also room to discuss contributing -- and possibly doing a
> sizeable makeover to -- the *Guile* documentation? If so, I could give a
> short 5 - 10 minutes presentation of what I think should be done (and
> would volunteer
Blake Shaw writes:
> I'd love to know where you found trouble so that I can take that into
> consideration when developing a design strategy for the makeover.
When reading this, please keep in mind that I have a lot of gratitude for the
various maintainers of this software and its respective do
Ryan Prior writes:
> I've found the Guile IRC channel to be polite and encouraging, but also very
> self-satisfied, which makes it hard to feel heard as a Guile hacker who's
> struggling.
Consider reaching out to Andy Wingo (wingo in IRC in #guile). I hope I am not
laying this issue at his feet
Ryan Prior writes:
> Absolutely. The Guile docs are unusable and make Guile a pain to work
> with. I say this as an experienced lisp & scheme user with decades of
> experience now in elisp, racket, and clojure.
oh good, I'm glad to hear that I'm not alone! to be honest I don't think
its *so* ba
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Friday, December 10th, 2021 at 10:40 PM, Blake Shaw
wrote:
> tldr: is there also room to discuss contributing -- and possibly doing a
> sizeable makeover to -- the Guile documentation?
Absolutely. The Guile docs are unusable and make Guile a pain to work wi
hiya guix,
@cybersyn from IRC here, I recently contributed my first package, [notcurses]
--
tldr: is there also room to discuss contributing -- and possibly doing a
sizeable makeover to -- the *Guile* documentation? If so, I could give a
short 5 - 10 minutes presentation of what I think should
Hi Guixers,
I wanted to announce that this Sunday, December 12, we'll be meeting over
Big Blue Button to work on Guix Documentation.
The meetup will start at 10:30 AM ET.
https://meet.nixnet.services/b/jga-rtw-ahw-yky
Hope to see you there,
jgart
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