Katherine,
Given the dimensions you have cited, these embroideries are
definitely orphry bands, not banners, worn around the neck, and over a cope,
by a priest.
>1. Photos 1 to 8. This has not been bordered by the
velvet. There are TWO layers of fabric embroidered -
the top one has the ge
At 11:54 AM 2/8/2006, you wrote:
At Costume College 2003 there was a class on Medieval and Rennisance
fastenings, which was fascinating, but there were neither handouts, nor
can I find a reference to it on-line, so I can't tell you who the teacher
was...Not very helpful, I know!
Hehe... I ha
Thanks, Annette, for putting that great link to the art work of Carlo Crivelli
in your article on fastenings. http://www.eleanorlebrun.com/closure.htm
Not only have they collected really good reproductions of his works from all
over the world, they also enable close-ups of all the interesting
What I like about the nifty tool that I got is that the edging results on
soft cotton is a rather dainty feathered effect, On stiffer fabric, it
gives the expected sharp zig-zag- pattern.
My present project is mainly h-costume inspiration doll clothing and the
results for ruschings is simpler b
Checking the instructions given here, do note that all of the buy-it-now
items are art prints!
Kathleen
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Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] pinker alert
Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
Perhaps I was not clear enough - when I was talking about petticoats, I meant mainly the 19th century of course. The fact is, I was asking if anyone knew a web page or a book where I could read something about fastenings in common - which kind of fastening was used in t
From: "Susan B. Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
BTW, Marc, your link to "Hawking glove of Henry VIII is broken. :-(
I'll try to get it fixed tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up.
Marc
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I've also had good luck putting a wet felt hat into a ziplock bag,
still slightly open* (a closed ziplock will explode), and microwaving
it for 10-15 seconds. It skips the whole using the kettle thing but
REMEMBER steam is HOT. The hat will be hot too.
If it's an old hat you can wash it is before
I've been tempted, off and on, to bid on one of those crank models for
pinking trimmings (I don't generally like to finish seams that way).
That's why I've been reassured to see there's always a good selection on
eBay (although I'm sure some of them are rusty and/or dull).
What I really want t
Thanks Fran, I love the one I got and didn't think of some of the other ways
of listing to find one of the same for other people who might like to gain
one of these.
Kathleen
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This sounds really exciting. What an experience to be able to see and handle
such stuff!
. and am I the only one in a peculiar mood today, or did anyone else look
at the subject line and think, "Embroidery dating -- how to help your
embroidery find its perfect soul mate?" I think it's entir
Thank you to everyone who has helped so far: there is
a lot of gold work that fits in with the or nue
technique, so here is a more detailed description. (I
have rejigged the photos - 1 to 8 is banner one, 9
onwards banner two).
There are two banners and I forgot to measure them
when I 'met' them
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, Melanie Schuessler wrote:
> I'm wondering about the Wife of Bath and what she's got on her head in
> the Canterbury Tales:
>
> "Hir coverchiefs ful fyne weren of ground,
> I dorste swere they weyeden ten pound
> That on a Sonday weren upon hir heed."
>
> Mainly I'm wonderin
I have been indulging guilty pleasures.
I got the newly issued DVD of "Dune"another film much hated but I love
because I don't find it confusing [and I've never read the books] and again
beautifully and perfectly designed by Bob Ringwood. Each planet has a look that
has one f
> I do this at exactly this point, the lower end of the CB seam just above
the pleat opening.
> It has to be done from the outside.
> assuming a vertical seam in the center of this diagram, the stitches would
run
>I_
> _I
>I_
>I perhaps didnt realise wich part of the suit you have read that fine
>drawing should be used.
>Is it for the slash you make at the top of the back vent opening, to make an
>extra pleat?
I'm not sure either. All it says is "the back". Rather vague.
>Then she perhaps is meaning that this seam sho
If you go to ebay's Collectibles/Vintage Sewing category, without going
down into Tools, and search on pinking machine as two words (not a
phrase), searching for those words in the listings as well as the
titles, there are about ten pinking machines are listed. Which is about
the usual number f
Speaking in ignorance except as a costumer who worries about vulnerable
seam-ends
If "fine drawing" doesn't refer to what Cynthia describes (and for costumes in
this general period I have done those catch-stiches to stabilize the pleat),
then...
it might be a reinforcing stitching buried in t
These are inexpensive and plastic, but look pretty good:
http://www.anytimecostumes.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
Don't forget the question mark, it's part of the url.
Tea Rose
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Subject: [h-cost] Child-friendly sword
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I'm wondering about the Wife of Bath and what she's got on her head in
the Canterbury Tales:
"Hir coverchiefs ful fyne weren of ground,
I dorste swere they weyeden ten pound
That on a Sonday weren upon hir heed."
Mainly I'm wondering about the use of the word "ground" in the first
line. I've
Hi,
Forgive my ignorance, but i have no idea, and therefore ask stupid. But how
was these scalloped cuffs for gloves made. Did they have wire in the edge,
to make it stand?
Does anybody know wich kind of seam is used to turn these scallopes?
Bjarne
Leif og Bjarne Drews
www.my-drewscostume
Hello!
De-lurking for a moment . . .
While perusing the web, I stumbled onto something called Italian linen,
which can be found here:
http://tinyurl.com/a826d
Does anyone know how this would compare to Irish linen? Or is it just a
different name for the same thing?
Kate McClure
Grand Pooh-Bah
Hi all, I forget who it was who was interested in a 19th C Pinker. There is
another up on eBay right now. You will find it listed under Sewing tools.
This looks to be pretty much the same as the one I found two weeks ago.
Kathleen
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On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I haven't done much research before the 1400s so I can't talk about
> anything before then, however in the _Museum of London: Clothing and
> Textiles_ book it shows fabric buttons on the sleeves of the gothic
> fitted dresses (usually referred to as c
Quoting Bjarne og Leif Drews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi Marc,
Gosh thanks a lot. You have made my days a head now. Lady Herringtons
gloves has bullion rosesBULLION ROSES..
Oh, wow! Is there a date for those? Looks like it *might* be late 16th
C.
Susan
BTW, Marc, your link
Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote:
I perhaps didnt realise wich part of the suit you have read that fine
drawing should be used.
Is it for the slash you make at the top of the back vent opening, to
make an extra pleat?
It's for joining the center back seam above the pleats "working from the
skirt
I perhaps didnt realise wich part of the suit you have read that fine
drawing should be used.
Is it for the slash you make at the top of the back vent opening, to make an
extra pleat? Then she perhaps is meaning that this seam should be very
accurately made with tiny stitches, to hold well, as t
I'm trying to translate instructions from _The Cut of Men's Clothes_ for
the assembly of an 18th century coat. (page 88 of the recent hardcover
edition)
"The backs are joined together by backstitching on the wrong side and
then
fine-drawing on the right, working from the skirt opening upwards."
Hello again!
As I said earlier, I don't actually know of a book on the "history of
fastenings", and I haven't specifically researched the questions you ask, but I
am chronically unable to stick to one outfit/time-period in my costuming, so
here's an overview of what I've picked up about the sub
I am going to hazzard a guess here as a seamstress, not as an
authority on 18th century men's wear. I would think that the
fine drawing may mean a fine gathering stitch used to make the
upper layer lay flat. I have done many curved seams though,
and never needed to use that method,
Hello, Sheridan.
Mr.Olan Knight of Knighthawk Armoury can probably help
you find just what you need in a latex weapon.
Here's the link:
http://www.latex-weaponry.com/
--Leslie
Leslie Mundy, DCC Office Hours: M-W-F Noon-5:00
John Carter Brown Library, Box 1894, Brown University
Providence, R
Hi Marc,
Gosh thanks a lot. You have made my days a head now. Lady Herringtons gloves
has bullion rosesBULLION ROSES..
Tada tada..
Bjarne
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006
> I'm trying to translate instructions from _The Cut of Men's Clothes_ for
> the assembly of an 18th century coat. (page 88 of the recent hardcover
> edition)
>
> "The backs are joined together by backstitching on the wrong side and then
> fine-drawing on the right, working from the skirt opening u
Thank you Bjarne but no, this is not the one.
It was a men's waist coat and gloves from the 17th century. It is
buried in my collection of glove links that I really need to clean
out.
But thank you for the link! Lovely dress. :)
Chiara
On Wed, February 8, 2006 11:08 am, Bjarne og Leif Drews sai
Kids I know generally have wood, padded and then covered with leather.
Works for both swords and axes, and looks period as well as being
relatively safe.
Jean
Shane & Sheridan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
Hello everyone!
I'm forwarding this on behalf of someone on another list; I figured folks
As to the banners, I'd need a little more information as to
dimensions. I would suggest these may not be banners, rather orphry bands,
definitely ecclesiastical.
Ah, that was my first thought too, but it was just a hunch so kept quiet.
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Katherine, my "gut instinct" on the waistcoat is late 18th century, but I'm no
expert. The curator of the Valentine museum in Richmond, VA (whose name is
escaping me at the moment, it's been a few years) was quite studied on men's
shirts and waiscoats of the 18th and 19th centuries and could pr
Hi Chiara,
The danish wedding? Is it the reconstrukted renaissance wedding dress from
Kronborg?
The link is here:
http://www.ses.dk/sofiegalleri/
But there is no link to any gloves, or did i miss something?
Bjarne
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From: "Chiara Francesca Arianna d'Onofrio" <[EMAIL
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 09:36:49 + (GMT), katherine sanders
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've been asked to help stabilise some VERY old
tapestry banners - if there are any embroiderers who
think they have more of a clue than "north european,
possibly 17h century" I'd be very happy to answer
querie
Katherine,
I would suggest the waistcoat is between 1790 and 1800, just at the
change of fashion from Georgian to Regency. The embroidery very much harks
to the Georgian, in that it is so colourful in execution, and quite heavy in
design. The sprigging, however, gives it away as Regency, a
Hi Dawn,
Gosh i never read that chapter, i surely will now. I dont understand this
fine-drawing thing either. Never heard it. Dont you think they just mean
that you have to press the seams to the sides and iron? I have never seen
any stitches used on the right side of the back pieces.
In the a
Kinda found where it used to live ...
http://www.manchestergalleries.org/costume/catalogue/ContactSheet.php?QueryName=BasicQuery&QueryPage=%2Fcostume%2Fcatalogue%2Findex.php&Anywhere=SummaryData%7CAdmWebMetadata&QueryTerms=glove&QueryOption=Anywhere&Submit=Search&StartAt=41
On Wed, February 8, 2
At 17:34 08/02/2006, you wrote:
It's somewhat dated but this might have something of use...
http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/histshoe/redfern/index.htm
Marc
Marc
That is an amazing site - thank you - it has given me more ideas, as
I was hoping to find something not quite so fan
Thank you. Me too.
If Creepy Plastic Guy showed up at my place, I'ld have no recourse other
than to beat him to death with a baseball bat.
eyu (shivers!)
(Sorry, no costume content.)
Arlys
On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 17:52:06 -0800 Althea Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> That's our name for
It's somewhat dated but this might have something of use...
http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/histshoe/redfern/index.htm
Marc
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At 16:45 08/02/2006, you wrote:
Still looking for the danish wedding outfit with glove link, sorry. :(
http://www.museumofcostume.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseAction=SM.nav&UUID=D69CF392-BC32-4DBD-8CBCA2C0FF8D78DF
http://www.davidrumsey.com/amico/amico934716-18548.html
http://www.geocities.com/stiobhar
Still looking for the danish wedding outfit with glove link, sorry. :(
http://www.museumofcostume.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseAction=SM.nav&UUID=D69CF392-BC32-4DBD-8CBCA2C0FF8D78DF
http://www.davidrumsey.com/amico/amico934716-18548.html
http://www.geocities.com/stiobhard/glove.html
http://www.gloveasso
Hi Katherine,
Yum yum, thanks for posting the link. Oh god, i cant stand those
embroideries :-)
Its a mans waistcoat 1780-90 my guess. Feather patterns was very sheek in
the 80ies.
Cant help with the tappestries.
Even though it looks very inspired from India it could have ben made
Quoting Melanie Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Susan B. Farmer wrote:
OK. thanks to the evil woman who pointed out the MFA in Boston site,
I've been drooling there for *far* too long.
Count Richelieu's gloves intrigue me. Are there examples of knitted
gloves *before* 1600?
There's a pair
He didn't remember the exact price with the exchange rate, thought it
might be around $35 US.
There were also a lot of full-page color photos of fabrics from the
period it was covering, which was late 16/early 17C, and into the 17th
C. My interests are more 16th C but I was still thinking of gett
Quoting Catherine Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I was drooling over a friends new book this weekend that had great pics
of, if I remember correctly, 3 pairs of knitted gloves. One of the
earliest pairs was red. He got it at a museum in Bavaria on a trip last
fall so the text is in Germany. Have
> For example I'd like to know when did people start to use lace as a
> fastening - and when buttons. and how did the buttons actually look like?
> Were they from the same fabric as the garment, or could they have been made
> of metal? For such questions it is hard to find anywhere an answer.
The Interactive Weaver Tartan Generator automatically generates tartan
patterns based on your color selections. Choose your colors, their
order and the number of threads per color and they'll draw the tartan
and then give you the option of having twill or silk fabric woven in
your chosen pattern.
And I have ordered several back issues of magazines. This is another one of
those evil sites. Anne
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This is from another group I sew with. Their emphasis is on the
Victorian/ Edwardian Period.
<< It's sure pretty, but I wouldn't exactly call it "historic."
"Costume" is the right word. But it looks like they're trying to get
an 1880 look. When JoAnn has their Simplicity $1 pattern sale,
Perhaps I was not clear enough - when I was talking about petticoats, I meant
mainly the 19th century of course. The fact is, I was asking if anyone knew a
web page or a book where I could read something about fastenings in common -
which kind of fastening was used in the middle ages, what in re
At 01:36 AM 2/8/2006, you wrote:
Hi everyone!
I've been asked to help stabilise some VERY old
tapestry banners - if there are any embroiderers who
think they have more of a clue than "north european,
possibly 17h century" I'd be very happy to answer
queries on them.
More relevantly, the owner a
At 13:38 08/02/2006, you wrote:
The waistcoat looks late 18th Century to me. the vibrant colours
were popular then too, and if pack away from light for the last
couple of hundred years, would retain it's colour. It looks in
fabulous condition! I would lightly vacum it, with a low power
vacume
When 19th cent?
early? middle? late?
There are some patterns Past Patterns( to buy) and Elizabeth Stewart Clark(
free on the web) take care of middle 19th cent (split crothch and all).
Folkwear USED to make a late 19th cent. version, I don't know if they still do.
MIa in Cha
The actual picture looks as if the side poof is pulled to the front opening
but the drawing view does not. I don't know if that is the problem you seek,
but that is one difference I see. The ones I've seen like this are pulled
more towards the back, not to the front. They form the bustle and "bu
Sheridan,
I've used rubber daggers in various live-action games (full-contact fighting
ones as well as the more 'drama' oriented ones).
We picked them up at martial art stores, where you can also buy wooden practice
swords or shinai (bamboo practice swords), all three of which should qualif
I was drooling over a friends new book this weekend that had great pics
of, if I remember correctly, 3 pairs of knitted gloves. One of the
earliest pairs was red. He got it at a museum in Bavaria on a trip last
fall so the text is in Germany. Haven't had a chance to search around
and see if it i
How time flies, alas...
The issue is actually Vol. XI, Number 2 (March/April '03)
While looking for this last eve, I pulled several issues out at random that
deal with the 16/17Centuries.They are:Taste, Art, and Design in great
Britain 1500-1900
(Jan/Feb '03)
The Wedding Cloak of Johann GeorgI (May
I've just found my samples from Funn Stockings. (Who says my workroom
is a shambles?) The silk ones are very fine, and would need to be
worn over another pair for men's 18th century. The cotton ones are
not so fine, but are translucent rather than transparent. Hope this helps.
Suzi
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At 05:26 08/02/2006, you wrote:
I was just browsing Simplicity's website (I got a free pattern for
submitting a sewing tip to their 'idea exchange') and I found that they have
a new historic costume pattern,
http://www.simplicity.com/dv1_v4.cfm?design=4244 it looks like a bustle or
natural form p
The waistcoat looks late 18th Century to me. the vibrant colours were
popular then too, and if pack away from light for the last couple of hundred
years, would retain it's colour. It looks in fabulous condition! I would
lightly vacum it, with a low power vacume like ones used in museums, but
th
Hi everyone!
I've been asked to help stabilise some VERY old
tapestry banners - if there are any embroiderers who
think they have more of a clue than "north european,
possibly 17h century" I'd be very happy to answer
queries on them.
More relevantly, the owner also has an exquisite
embroidered wa
I was just browsing Simplicity's website (I got a free pattern for
submitting a sewing tip to their 'idea exchange') and I found that they have
a new historic costume pattern,
http://www.simplicity.com/dv1_v4.cfm?design=4244 it looks like a bustle or
natural form period gown, they may be trying to
I'm trying to translate instructions from _The Cut of Men's Clothes_ for
the assembly of an 18th century coat. (page 88 of the recent hardcover
edition)
"The backs are joined together by backstitching on the wrong side and
then fine-drawing on the right, working from the skirt opening upwards.
In a message dated 2/8/06 2:41:30 AM GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> F.ex. the petticoats - were they fastened simply with
> >>a ribbon or a button or what?
PS to what I just said - you did give some awfully wide apart dates - in that
time the shape of the chemise wouldn't change
In a message dated 2/8/06 2:41:30 AM GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> F.ex. the petticoats - were they fastened simply with
> >>a ribbon or a button or what?
Question - what do you actually mean by petticoat??
If you mean an underdress (aka chemise or shift), then they were loose
Susan B. Farmer wrote:
OK. thanks to the evil woman who pointed out the MFA in Boston site,
I've been drooling there for *far* too long.
Count Richelieu's gloves intrigue me. Are there examples of knitted
gloves *before* 1600?
There's a pair of red knitted silk and metal thread 15th-century
At 03:04 08/02/2006, you wrote:
It is available by subscription, although I don't know if they ship outside
the US/Canada. At any rate, the publishers have a website, which I'm noting
below:
http://www.interweave.com/needle/piecework_magazine/subscriptions/subscripti
ons.asp
--Sue
Thanks - I
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