I'll definitely go! I'm just very busy now, so I only have to find out when,
probably this or next week.
So, if you have questions, ask! I'll give a report after the visit:-))
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Suzi Clarke wrote:
I didn't know there was a sex machine museum in Prague!
Middle ages, and renaissance maybe. But the period is not so important as I'm
often doing fantasy costumes (like LOTR style etc.) That's why I'm actually
looking for cloak clasps - for fantasy costumes - for the medieval ones I can
use lacing (or buttons). Here in Prague cloak clasps don't
I have seen this dress. In the original movie, The
King And I, Anna is wearing one during the State
Dinner seen when she is dancung with Yul Brenner.
--- Diana Habra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have finally found a propper picture to show.
This is a painting of the
view over the thames.
At 13:00 12/11/2006, you wrote:
I have seen this dress. In the original movie, The
King And I, Anna is wearing one during the State
Dinner seen when she is dancung with Yul Brenner.
--- Diana Habra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have finally found a propper picture to show.
This is a painting
At 09:51 12/11/2006, you wrote:
Middle ages, and renaissance maybe. But the period is not so
important as I'm often doing fantasy costumes (like LOTR style etc.)
That's why I'm actually looking for cloak clasps - for fantasy
costumes - for the medieval ones I can use lacing (or buttons). Here
Hi,
This is excactly what there are not. No patterns of such a dress.
Because the dress only consist of one skirt, i wonder how the skirt would be
attached to the bodice.
Could it be that the whole front skirt was put to some tape ties, where it
would be attached to the back of the skirt at the
Oh many, many thanks!
I've glanced through both the sites already but at chimera costumes I
couldn't find any clasps. The site has a strange structure and as I couldn't
find any menu with clasps item, I didn't search any more. Now I've searched
more and I've found them! Many thanks again!
Cloak and Dagger. have not ordered from them and have no clue other then
they might be in the US.
http://www.cloakmaker.com/clasps/european.html
http://www.medievalweddings.com/clasps/Celticclasp.html
Treasure Cast, I know of one customer who is satisfied with their clasps.
but again, US
By the way, looking at the chimera costumes' web page, is there any historical
evidence of this kind of dress:
http://chimera-costumes.co.uk/slideshows/view.php?c=43 ? I mean the gores in
the skirt (or lower part of the dress) - does anybody know?
Zuzana
Historic Fashion in Detail shows a rose red ground with trails of white
flowers with a pleated English back (altered in 1760's) the silk is 1740
(p 88). As it is Fashion in Detail I don't know what the front of the gown
is like. There is a mantua 1750 (p90) that may look something like these
Hi,
This is excactly what there are not. No patterns of such a dress.
Because the dress only consist of one skirt, i wonder how the skirt
would be attached to the bodice.
Could it be that the whole front skirt was put to some tape ties, where it
would be attached to the back of the skirt at
At 09:51 12/11/2006, you wrote:
Middle ages, and renaissance maybe. But the period is not so
important as I'm often doing fantasy costumes (like LOTR style etc.)
That's why I'm actually looking for cloak clasps - for fantasy
costumes - for the medieval ones I can use lacing (or buttons). Here
Suzi Clarke wrote:
Are there dresses like this in Fitting and Proper, or Costume
Close-up, or Costume in Detail, or Historic Fashion in Detail? (the
18th century one.) I'm away from my books and can't check right now.
Pgs 9, 13, 31, and 33 of Costume in Detail show round gowns of this
In a message dated 11/12/2006 9:43:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Because the dress only consist of one skirt
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Because of the early-ish year of the painting
could this be gowns like in Janet Arnold's Patterns of Fashion,
Vol.1...the
At 14:42 12/11/2006, you wrote:
Hi,
This is excactly what there are not. No patterns of such a dress.
Because the dress only consist of one skirt, i wonder how the skirt
would be attached to the bodice.
Could it be that the whole front skirt was put to some tape ties,
where it would be
Elizabeth Walpole wrote:
The Fall/veil is shaped like a sleeve because it's attached at the top
of the shaped crescent (this is an interpretation that I support because
all the images I've seen show a band of black at the top edge of the
stiffened crescent and side views like this
Rutgers/Mason Gross has an excellent program. They do a good job of
helping to place their graduates and have an on-going internship
placement with Saturday Night Live.
http://catalogs.rutgers.edu/generated/mgsa/pg5887.html
Kate
609-570-3584
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Sharon at Collierfam.com wrote:
I don't know about the authenticity aspect, I meant the pattern came out
nicely, fit well, looked good. Sorry.
No need to apologize. I think they are successful in the ways that you
mention, but not as accurate as I would like. I've been researching
French
Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early middle
ages on (it's an early step in the evolution of tailoring), but the use of a
contrast gore for stylish effect is not really documentable for this period (I
think there is some use of this technique in the 19th
Hope these help ...
http://members.tripod.com/ShootingStarEnt/gloves.html
http://www.museumofcostume.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=SMT.searchsearchCriteria=glove
http://www.davidrumsey.com/amico/amico9107717-17852.html
http://www.bopcris.ac.uk/bop1700/browse/674.html
Hi Suzi,
Thanks. yes i overlooked that dress with the collar.
I guess its because i thoaght it was a later fashion.
I never imagined this style of dress with a large pannier like the painting.
Bjarne
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From: Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Historical Costume [EMAIL
I think it is so in this case with the picture, that the dresses dont have
matching petticoats. You clearly see that in the lady right for the red
dress.
Also in the pictures i have of street life in Copenhagen.
But the example of Nancy Bradfields page 9 was excactly how i imagined they
would
Many thanks for all your suggestions and debate of the closed robe type.
Gives me blod on the teeth to try out some day!
Bjarne
Leif og Bjarne Drews
www.my-drewscostumes.dk
http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/
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Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
By the way, looking at the chimera costumes' web page, is there any historical
evidence of this kind of dress:
http://chimera-costumes.co.uk/slideshows/view.php?c=43 ? I mean the gores in
the skirt (or lower part of the dress) - does anybody know?
I've seen it
Branwyn Maura wrote:
Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early middle
ages on (it's an early step in the evolution of tailoring), but the use of a
contrast gore for stylish effect is not really documentable for this period (I
think there is some use of this
Quoting Branwyn Maura [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the
early middle ages on (it's an early step in the evolution of
tailoring), but the use of a contrast gore for stylish effect is not
really documentable for this period (I think
For what it's worth, my Lucy Barton Historic Costume for the Stage says,
in the Early Georgian section, 1700-1750, Costume (could consist) of but
one dress or of a gown over bodice and petticoat... and Gowns open over
under bodices might be laced across or left open to show ruffles or lace.
Over
Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the
early middle ages on (it's an early step in the evolution of
tailoring), but the use of a contrast gore for stylish effect is not
really documentable for this period (I think there is some use of
this technique in the 19th
Gores themselves? Certainly, although not necessarily placed in the manner
depicted.
Gores made of a contrasting fabric? Not that I know of. I've seen this
particular fashion error show up at an occasional SCA event, but not very
often. I'm not sure of its point of origin, but I'm pretty darned
1. It has modern princess seams.
2. the inner sleeve should not be connected to the outer dress.
3. (minor) laced incorrectly.
4. Has contrasting bias at the hem.
Now for the gores.
There are a rare few mid 1400s Italian frescos that have what appears to
be different colored gores in the dress
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From: Zuzana Kraemerova [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: h-costume h-costume@mail.indra.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 2:33 AM
Subject: [h-cost] gores in skirt in late Middle ages???
By the way, looking at the chimera costumes' web page, is there any
historical
Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start
somewhere around the thigh? Anyone know the difference, if any?
Lady Von
Adele de Maisieres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Branwyn Maura wrote:
Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early
From a purely practical point of view, the piece around the back of the
neck, forming a circle around the head, made the hood fit extremely well. I
wore mine outside, in wind, without any fasteners, bobby pins, etc. It just
sat on my head and I had no problems with it wanting to come off. It is a
Greetings--
Adele de Maisieres wrote:
Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
By the way, looking at the chimera costumes' web page, is there any
historical evidence of this kind of dress:
http://chimera-costumes.co.uk/slideshows/view.php?c=43 ? I mean the
gores in the skirt (or lower part of the dress) -
Voncile W. Dudley wrote:
Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start
somewhere around the thigh? Anyone know the difference, if any?
Well, SCA-types tend to call them gores and modern dressmakers tend to
call them godets and use gore to refer to a
Interesting, that you liked it. It made my eyes bleed, and the
authenticity-nut part of me back up hissing and spitting. I was also pretty
taken aback by the price (starting at 350 pounds??? Wowser!).
I guess our respective mileages are varying greatly on this one, huh? ;oD
--sue in montana
How much is 350 pounds?
On Nov 12, 2006, at 2:35 PM, Sue Clemenger wrote:
Interesting, that you liked it. It made my eyes bleed, and the
authenticity-nut part of me back up hissing and spitting. I was also
pretty
taken aback by the price (starting at 350 pounds??? Wowser!).
I guess our
Quoting Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
How much is 350 pounds?
$700 USD -- approximately
susan
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University of Tennessee
Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/
Sylvia Rognstad wrote:
How much is 350 pounds?
1000 New Zealand dollars.
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hominem meam. Expectat alium quid?
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Using my handy-dandy converter:
http://www.xe.net/ucc/
Roughly 669 buckolas!!! (Too bad it can't be phantasy-bucks for
phantasy-garb!!)
Theresa Eacker
How much is 350 pounds?
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Greetings--
Adele de Maisieres wrote:
Voncile W. Dudley wrote:
Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones
that start somewhere around the thigh? Anyone know the difference,
if any?
Well, SCA-types tend to call them gores and modern dressmakers tend to
call them
Hi Melanie,
After I thought I had it figured out, and made my French hood similar to the
one in the Tudor Tailor (as I wanted one before the style shown in the Mary
Tudor coin), I found this image in a book on illumination just a couple of
weeks later.
Hi Sharon,
I agree. For costuming purposes, mine sat just fine on my head without any
fasteners, until a really strong gust lifted it up. But it went back on with
minimal adjusting. I loved how it works, but I will be adding in a chin strap
soon since I won't have the new one made before
I should go into business. Wonder how many this company sells at those
prices.
On Nov 12, 2006, at 7:28 PM, Susan B. Farmer wrote:
Quoting Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
How much is 350 pounds?
$700 USD -- approximately
susan
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Susan Farmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
University of
Quoting Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I should go into business. Wonder how many this company sells at those
prices.
Who Knows! But I could sure sell them a lot cheaper than that!
susan
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Susan Farmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
University of Tennessee
Department of Ecology and Evolutionary
Well, except that in reality what costs $1 in the USA costs £1 in the UK. So
from the UK seller's point of view it would be a more accurate reflection of
their how much they are earning (in terms of paying the bills, keeping food
on the table etc.) if you just change the dollar symbol to a
Really? How long do you estimate it would take you to make such a gown?
On Nov 12, 2006, at 8:27 PM, Susan B. Farmer wrote:
Quoting Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I should go into business. Wonder how many this company sells at
those
prices.
Who Knows! But I could sure sell them a
About 1/6 of a ton. ;-) sorry, couldn't resist.
On Nov 12, 2006, at 9:19 PM, Sylvia Rognstad wrote:
How much is 350 pounds?
On Nov 12, 2006, at 2:35 PM, Sue Clemenger wrote:
Interesting, that you liked it. It made my eyes bleed, and the
authenticity-nut part of me back up hissing and
Personally, I wouldn't touch it if it were mailed to me, free. And sure not
for several hundred dollars. I've seen some seriously tacky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
aimed at
the non-sewing SCA crowd (and, I assume at other non-sewing
reenactors/hobbyists of relatively same time frame and required
With a serger? Couple of hours, tops. Of course, I could build a complete
tent in a couple of hours, when I did it for a living. Now I deal with maps
and data bases and school buses, thank goodness, and get to do my sewing for
fun.
--Sue in Montana, not Susan in TN ;o)
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From: Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???
Personally, I wouldn't touch it if it were mailed to me, free. And sure
not
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