Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

- Original Message - From: "Sue Clemenger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? Personally, I wouldn't touch it if it were mailed to me, free. And sure

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

With a serger? Couple of hours, tops. Of course, I could build a complete tent in a couple of hours, when I did it for a living. Now I deal with maps and data bases and school buses, thank goodness, and get to do my sewing for fun. --Sue in Montana, not Susan in TN ;o) - Original Message ---

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Personally, I wouldn't touch it if it were mailed to me, free. And sure not for several hundred dollars. I've seen some seriously tacky [EMAIL PROTECTED] aimed at the non-sewing SCA crowd (and, I assume at other non-sewing reenactors/hobbyists of relatively same time frame and required authentic

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

About 1/6 of a ton. ;-) sorry, couldn't resist. On Nov 12, 2006, at 9:19 PM, Sylvia Rognstad wrote: How much is 350 pounds? On Nov 12, 2006, at 2:35 PM, Sue Clemenger wrote: Interesting, that you liked it. It made my eyes bleed, and the authenticity-nut part of me back up hissing and spitti

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Really? How long do you estimate it would take you to make such a gown? On Nov 12, 2006, at 8:27 PM, Susan B. Farmer wrote: Quoting Sylvia Rognstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I should go into business. Wonder how many this company sells at those prices. Who Knows! But I could sure sell them a

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Well, except that in reality what costs $1 in the USA costs £1 in the UK. So from the UK seller's point of view it would be a more accurate reflection of their how much they are earning (in terms of paying the bills, keeping food on the table etc.) if you just change the dollar symbol to a pound

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Quoting Sylvia Rognstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I should go into business. Wonder how many this company sells at those prices. Who Knows! But I could sure sell them a lot cheaper than that! susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionar

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

I should go into business. Wonder how many this company sells at those prices. On Nov 12, 2006, at 7:28 PM, Susan B. Farmer wrote: Quoting Sylvia Rognstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: How much is 350 pounds? $700 USD -- approximately susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tenne

RE: [h-cost] Tudor Tailor -- another review

Hi Sharon, I agree. For costuming purposes, mine sat just fine on my head without any fasteners, until a really strong gust lifted it up. But it went back on with minimal adjusting. I loved how it works, but I will be adding in a chin strap soon since I won't have the new one made before m

[h-cost] French hoods (was Tudor Tailor -- another review)

Hi Melanie, After I thought I had it figured out, and made my French hood similar to the one in the Tudor Tailor (as I wanted one before the style shown in the Mary Tudor coin), I found this image in a book on illumination just a couple of weeks later. http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16t

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Greetings-- Adele de Maisieres wrote: Voncile W. Dudley wrote: Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start somewhere around the thigh? Anyone know the difference, if any? Well, SCA-types tend to call them gores and modern dressmakers tend to call them god

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Using my handy-dandy converter: http://www.xe.net/ucc/ Roughly 669 buckolas!!! (Too bad it can't be phantasy-bucks for phantasy-garb!!) Theresa Eacker How much is 350 pounds? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indr

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Sylvia Rognstad wrote: How much is 350 pounds? 1000 New Zealand dollars. -- Adele de Maisieres - Habeo metrum - musicamque, hominem meam. Expectat alium quid? -Georgeus Gershwinus - ___ h-

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Quoting Sylvia Rognstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: How much is 350 pounds? $700 USD -- approximately susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

How much is 350 pounds? On Nov 12, 2006, at 2:35 PM, Sue Clemenger wrote: Interesting, that you liked it. It made my eyes bleed, and the authenticity-nut part of me back up hissing and spitting. I was also pretty taken aback by the price (starting at 350 pounds??? Wowser!). I guess our resp

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Interesting, that you liked it. It made my eyes bleed, and the authenticity-nut part of me back up hissing and spitting. I was also pretty taken aback by the price (starting at 350 pounds??? Wowser!). I guess our respective mileages are varying greatly on this one, huh? ;oD --sue in montana -

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Voncile W. Dudley wrote: Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start somewhere around the thigh? Anyone know the difference, if any? Well, SCA-types tend to call them gores and modern dressmakers tend to call them godets and use "gore" to refer to a trapezo

Re: [h-cost] gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Susan Carroll-Clark wrote: Greetings-- Adele de Maisieres wrote: Zuzana Kraemerova wrote: By the way, looking at the chimera costumes' web page, is there any historical evidence of this kind of dress: http://chimera-costumes.co.uk/slideshows/view.php?c=43 ? I mean the gores in the skirt

Re: [h-cost] gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Greetings-- Adele de Maisieres wrote: Zuzana Kraemerova wrote: By the way, looking at the chimera costumes' web page, is there any historical evidence of this kind of dress: http://chimera-costumes.co.uk/slideshows/view.php?c=43 ? I mean the gores in the skirt (or lower part of the dress) -

RE: [h-cost] Tudor Tailor -- another review

>From a purely practical point of view, the piece around the back of the neck, forming a circle around the head, made the hood fit extremely well. I wore mine outside, in wind, without any fasteners, bobby pins, etc. It just sat on my head and I had no problems with it wanting to come off. It is a

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start somewhere around the thigh? Anyone know the difference, if any? Lady Von Adele de Maisieres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Branwyn Maura wrote: >Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early

Re: [h-cost] gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

- Original Message - From: "Zuzana Kraemerova" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "h-costume" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 2:33 AM Subject: [h-cost] gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? By the way, looking at the chimera costumes' web page, is there any historical evidence of this kind of

RE: [h-cost] gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

1. It has modern princess seams. 2. the inner sleeve should not be connected to the outer dress. 3. (minor) laced incorrectly. 4. Has contrasting bias at the hem. Now for the gores. There are a rare few mid 1400s "Italian" frescos that have what appears to be different colored gores in the dress b

Re: [h-cost] gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Gores themselves? Certainly, although not necessarily placed in the manner depicted. Gores made of a contrasting fabric? Not that I know of. I've seen this particular fashion error show up at an occasional SCA event, but not very often. I'm not sure of its point of origin, but I'm pretty darned s

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

"Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the > early middle ages on (it's an early step in the evolution of > tailoring), but the use of a contrast gore for stylish effect is not > really documentable for this period (I think there is some use of > this technique in the 1

RE: [h-cost] dress type

For what it's worth, my Lucy Barton "Historic Costume for the Stage" says, in the Early Georgian section, 1700-1750, "Costume (could consist) of but one dress or of a gown over bodice and petticoat..." and "Gowns open over under bodices might be laced across or left open to show ruffles or lace. Ov

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Quoting Branwyn Maura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early middle ages on (it's an early step in the evolution of tailoring), but the use of a contrast gore for stylish effect is not really documentable for this period (I think the

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Branwyn Maura wrote: Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early middle ages on (it's an early step in the evolution of tailoring), but the use of a contrast gore for stylish effect is not really documentable for this period (I think there is some use of this tech

Re: [h-cost] gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Zuzana Kraemerova wrote: By the way, looking at the chimera costumes' web page, is there any historical evidence of this kind of dress: http://chimera-costumes.co.uk/slideshows/view.php?c=43 ? I mean the gores in the skirt (or lower part of the dress) - does anybody know? I've seen it mo

[h-cost] dress types

Many thanks for all your suggestions and debate of the closed robe type. Gives me blod on the teeth to try out some day! Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@

Re: [h-cost] Dress Type

I think it is so in this case with the picture, that the dresses dont have matching petticoats. You clearly see that in the lady right for the red dress. Also in the pictures i have of street life in Copenhagen. But the example of Nancy Bradfields page 9 was excactly how i imagined they would h

Re: [h-cost] dress type

Hi Suzi, Thanks. yes i overlooked that dress with the collar. I guess its because i thoaght it was a later fashion. I never imagined this style of dress with a large pannier like the painting. Bjarne - Original Message - From: "Suzi Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <

Re: [h-cost] 1860 leather gloves

Hope these help ... http://members.tripod.com/ShootingStarEnt/gloves.html http://www.museumofcostume.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=SMT.search&searchCriteria=glove http://www.davidrumsey.com/amico/amico9107717-17852.html http://www.bopcris.ac.uk/bop1700/browse/674.html http://www.costumelibrary.c

[h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early middle ages on (it's an early step in the evolution of tailoring), but the use of a contrast gore for stylish effect is not really documentable for this period (I think there is some use of this technique in the 19th centur

Re: [h-cost] Tudor Tailor -- another review

Sharon at Collierfam.com wrote: I don't know about the authenticity aspect, I meant the pattern came out nicely, fit well, looked good. Sorry. No need to apologize. I think they are successful in the ways that you mention, but not as accurate as I would like. I've been researching French ho

RE: [h-cost] Colleges for studying costuming and fashion

Rutgers/Mason Gross has an excellent program. They do a good job of helping to place their graduates and have an on-going internship placement with Saturday Night Live. http://catalogs.rutgers.edu/generated/mgsa/pg5887.html Kate 609-570-3584 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ma

Re: [h-cost] Tudor Tailor -- another review

Elizabeth Walpole wrote: The Fall/veil is shaped like a sleeve because it's attached at the top of the shaped crescent (this is an interpretation that I support because all the images I've seen show a band of black at the top edge of the stiffened crescent and side views like this http://www

Re: [h-cost] dress type

At 14:42 12/11/2006, you wrote: Hi, This is excactly what there are not. No patterns of such a dress. Because the dress only consist of one skirt, i wonder how the skirt would be attached to the bodice. Could it be that the whole front skirt was put to some tape ties, where it would be attached

Re: [h-cost] dress type

In a message dated 11/12/2006 9:43:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because the dress only consist of one skirt *** Because of the early-ish year of the painting could this be gowns like in Janet Arnold's "Patterns of Fashion, Vol.1"...the 1

Re: [h-cost] dress type

Suzi Clarke wrote: Are there dresses like this in "Fitting and Proper", or "Costume Close-up", or "Costume in Detail", or "Historic Fashion in Detail"? (the 18th century one.) I'm away from my books and can't check right now. Pgs 9, 13, 31, and 33 of "Costume in Detail" show "round gowns"

RE: [h-cost] cloak clasps

At 09:51 12/11/2006, you wrote: Middle ages, and renaissance maybe. But the period is not so important as I'm often doing fantasy costumes (like LOTR style etc.) That's why I'm actually looking for cloak clasps - for fantasy costumes - for the medieval ones I can use lacing (or buttons). Here

Re: [h-cost] dress type

> Hi, > This is excactly what there are not. No patterns of such a dress. > Because the dress only consist of one skirt, i wonder how the skirt would be attached to the bodice. > Could it be that the whole front skirt was put to some tape ties, where it > would be attached to the back of the skirt

[h-cost] Dress Type

Historic Fashion in Detail shows a "rose red ground with trails of white flowers" with "a pleated English back (altered in 1760's) the silk is 1740 (p 88). As it is Fashion in Detail I don't know what the front of the gown is like. There is a mantua 1750 (p90) that may look something like thes

[h-cost] gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

By the way, looking at the chimera costumes' web page, is there any historical evidence of this kind of dress: http://chimera-costumes.co.uk/slideshows/view.php?c=43 ? I mean the gores in the skirt (or lower part of the dress) - does anybody know? Zuzana

RE: [h-cost] cloak clasps

Cloak and Dagger. have not ordered from them and have no clue other then they might be in the US. http://www.cloakmaker.com/clasps/european.html http://www.medievalweddings.com/clasps/Celticclasp.html Treasure Cast, I know of one customer who is satisfied with their clasps. but again, US http://ww

RE: [h-cost] cloak clasps

Oh many, many thanks! I've glanced through both the sites already but at chimera costumes I couldn't find any clasps. The site has a strange "structure" and as I couldn't find any menu with "clasps" item, I didn't search any more. Now I've searched more and I've found them! Many thanks again!

Re: [h-cost] dress type

Hi, This is excactly what there are not. No patterns of such a dress. Because the dress only consist of one skirt, i wonder how the skirt would be attached to the bodice. Could it be that the whole front skirt was put to some tape ties, where it would be attached to the back of the skirt at the

RE: [h-cost] cloak clasps

At 09:51 12/11/2006, you wrote: Middle ages, and renaissance maybe. But the period is not so important as I'm often doing fantasy costumes (like LOTR style etc.) That's why I'm actually looking for cloak clasps - for fantasy costumes - for the medieval ones I can use lacing (or buttons). Here

Re: [h-cost] dress type

At 13:00 12/11/2006, you wrote: I have seen this dress. In the original movie, The King And I, Anna is wearing one during the State Dinner seen when she is dancung with Yul Brenner. --- Diana Habra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have finally found a propper picture to show. > This is a pai

Re: [h-cost] dress type

I have seen this dress. In the original movie, The King And I, Anna is wearing one during the State Dinner seen when she is dancung with Yul Brenner. --- Diana Habra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have finally found a propper picture to show. > This is a painting of the > > view over the th

RE: [h-cost] cloak clasps

Middle ages, and renaissance maybe. But the period is not so important as I'm often doing fantasy costumes (like LOTR style etc.) That's why I'm actually looking for cloak clasps - for fantasy costumes - for the medieval ones I can use lacing (or buttons). Here in Prague cloak clasps don't exis

RE: [h-cost] iron corset ( long-ish)

I'll definitely go! I'm just very busy now, so I only have to find out when, probably this or next week. So, if you have questions, ask! I'll give a report after the visit:-)) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Suzi Clarke wrote: > I didn't know there was a sex machine museum in Prague!