So, what was your solution; different brand/style of needles, or no more
silk thread?
Just Curious! Betsy
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Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:22 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re:
Hi all,
I have received some close up photos of the portrait i am going to make the
dress from, and i have uploaded to my webpage, mind the big files!
http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/br.htm
Am i right to suggest that this could be a small wheelfarthingale?
To me the angle of the bodice - skirt is
It does look like a small French Farthingale or perhaps just a padded
rollthere being a very small [or none at all] bit of bulk at the CF [the
strip
of trim there seems to have a bit of a highlight at the point of the bodice]
It is my understanding that at this point in time you
Because the top of this is rounded, rather than flat, I'd go with a
padded roll/cushion kind of thing.
The wheel fathingales were also much larger in portion to the waist
than this one is, though it's bigger than a typical padded hip/bum
roll. Maybe a transtional style?
The shape I'd go with
WEll actually ...do you remember having the spool with the nails and the yarn
got looped over the nail and then you wrapped again and...well if you ever had
one...this is making sense...a knitting loom is sort of like that concept
with the lay the yarn out nd loops come through and ..gosh im
Hi,
Thanks Alexandria,
In patterns of Fashion vol. 1560- 1620 there actually are small wheel
farthingales shown on effigy figures (page 68-69) About the same size these
are dated 1610 so it would be very close to 1614 in Denmark.
Could off cause also be a roll as you have mentioned, and i am
Because of its small size you could probably get away with a French
farthingale. You might want to read Robin's exhausitive expirmentation on that
subject. I personally don't see much roundness but as small as it is, based
on Robin's work, I'd say you could achieve it that way. And based on
If there were tie on pockets *before* the 1700s, well, it certainly
could be possible, after all, these pockets couldn't have
spontaneously appeared in the year 1700. :)
There are pockets in 16th C. Italian Paintings -- there just aren't...
Yes, Allesandro Allori frescoes show several. Very
So why do people have so many? Do you not trade in the old one when
buying a new one, which is what I do? Do you have machines that do
different things?
Hi Suzi!
Two of them are for historical re-creation events. I had a great time
at one San Jose Historical Society event sewing up a simple
Hi,
This may be stupid, but -- aren't their pocket *slits* in some of the
Herjolfsnes/Greenland finds? Which would suggest underlying pockets 13th
century, even though they don't show up in paintings.
Lauren
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This may be stupid, but -- aren't their pocket *slits* in some of the
Herjolfsnes/Greenland finds? Which would suggest underlying pockets 13th
century, even though they don't show up in paintings.
The pocket slits in 14th c. clothing are generally understood as
Thanks for the clarification, Robin, and sorry about the century -- I'm
obsessed with the, like, three 13th century pieces out of the Greenland finds
so I forget that the vast majority of stuff was later.
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From: Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In case anyone had trouble finding the pocket on the Museo Del Traje
website, here's the enlarged photo:
http://snipurl.com/290d3 [museodeltraje_mcu_es]
And here's the inventory [inventario] number: CE000790
As far as when they started carrying pockets goes, brace yourselves as I
make a
Congratulations on buying a house. If I were having a less stupid day I would
make some kind of clever observation about your name and home ownership.
Anyway, congrats and best wishes!
Lauren
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From: Exstock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In case anyone had
At 17:24 15/05/2008, you wrote:
If there were tie on pockets *before* the 1700s, well, it certainly
could be possible, after all, these pockets couldn't have
spontaneously appeared in the year 1700. :)
There are pockets in 16th C. Italian Paintings -- there just aren't...
Yes, Allesandro
Lauren wrote:
This may be stupid, but -- aren't their pocket *slits* in
some of the Herjolfsnes/Greenland finds? Which would suggest
underlying pockets 13th century, even though they don't
show up in paintings.
It certainly seems likely that pocket slits are to provide access to
*something*
Replying to a couple of emails.
Thank you to whomever found the photo at Museo de Traje (can't find that email
at the moment). I'm adding it to my collection. :)
Susan Farmer wrote:
A lady in the SCA has her research (and the snippets from a couple of
the paintings) here
This just hit my brain. Looking at
http://katerina.purplefiles.net/garb/diaries/Kat%27s%20Soccaccia.html
the second picture, it looks as if the pocket might have been made from what
was originally the slit in an outer garment for reaching in for the pouch or
pocket. That the triangle pieces may
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Betsy Marshall
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So, what was your solution; different brand/style of needles, or no more
silk thread?
Just Curious! Betsy
In my case, new needles. The type, size and brand of needle also makes
a difference. Your dealer should know which
So, what was your solution; different brand/style of needles, or no more
silk thread?
Just Curious! Betsy
Sorry I hit send too soon.
I wanted to say I didn't use silk thread, but I was using very fine
synthetic thread (my brain wants me to say rayon but it might have
been nylon). It kept
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Congratulations on the house. House in the house! Sorry, I had to try. :)
Hee, thanks! Hey, after almost 11 years of marriage, I still haven't gotten
over being amused by my own last name. (And it gets even better--the
husband just
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From: Serena Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 3:34 AM
Subject: [h-cost] 1830s-40s Boots and Shoes
Can anyone recommend a good maker of 1830s-40s ladies' boots or shoes?
Accurate ones seem to be a very hard to come
I'm a bit behind in my emails, but I hope those images
of the loose pockets help. The book doesn't state much
beyond what I posted, tho I haven't read it all yet,
so I may have missed a comment elsewhere in the book.
The earliest I've found comments on 16th century
pockets in general were from
Hope he's easier to live with than that TV guy...
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] House, was: Tie on pockets, dating correction
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On May 15, 2008, at 10:28 AM, Bambi TBNL wrote:
Well actually ...do you remember having the spool with the nails
and the yarn got looped over the nail and then you wrapped again
and...well if you ever had one...this is making sense...a knitting
loom is sort of like that concept with the
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