In a message dated 1/23/2007 7:27:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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So if the event is mostly Japanese, I'd go with the Japanese
representations of the namban, and cross-dress if I was a biological
female playing a namban.
Sounds like the best plan to me, too.
In any case, Spanish OR Portuguese, I am totally unable to find anything
even resembling long poufy pants. Anywhere but on Japanese
representations of European traders.
So if the event is mostly Japanese, I'd go with the Japanese
representations of the namban, and cross-dress if I was a
: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:36 PM
To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] Nanban trader... again!
Hi again!
I'm kind of stuck. I've found a lot of very interesting images of Namban
traders.
For example:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/NanbanGroup.JPG
or this, from
I remember reading that Japan was closed to outsiders until relatively
recently (1800's). Only the Portuguese traded with them, in only one area.
Maybe look in Portuguese sources.
The Portuguese arrived in Japan in the 1540s or 1560s, not totally certain.
Japan had closed its borders to China,
Hi again!
I'm kind of stuck. I've found a lot of very interesting images of Namban
traders.
For example:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/NanbanGroup.JPG
or this, from the Costume museum
http://www.iz2.or.jp/english/fukusyoku/busou/33.htm
Both those sources are Japanese,
But did
you notice there are no women? Not even one! Every time I think I've
spotted one, I realize it's just a man in poofy pants. *grumble*...
There must have been *some* kind of woman, at *some* point, who came on
one of those ships! :-P
I think it was against Japanese law of the time for
Though you've already helped some, by writing namban instead of
nanban... Now to do some more Googling...
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nam ban = southern barbarian
viet nam - southern provence
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Hmm... but I need them to be 1600-ish...
Look thru early ukiyo-e, Japanese colored woodblock prints. The art
form was in full swing in 16th c Edo (Tokyo). There is a magnificent
ukiyo-e Museum in Tokyo that I spent time at. Wonderful exhibits that
changed every few weeks as their hang space
I have a book of namban art, showing these folks thru Japanese eyes. How
close to San Francisco do you live?
Thanks for the offer, but I'm at the other end of the continent :-)
Though you've already helped some, by writing namban instead of
nanban... Now to do some more Googling...
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Nanban trader...
My first question, of course, is: what would they wear? I can find tons
of information on Spain for these years (and gorgeous outfits too), but
nothing on Portugal. Well... yes and no. Royalty seems to be
interchangeable between Spain and Portugal
Here's some artwork from Japan showing the traders.
http://gallery.sjsu.edu/encounters/orient/orient-Thumb.3.html
Melusine
This is cool. I found a whole bunch of images on Wikipedia too. But did you
notice there are no women? Not even one! Every time I think I've spotted
one, I realize
There are a whole bunch of women if you go to the next few pages.
Very cool, thank you for sharing!
Sg
- Original Message -
From: Audrey Bergeron-Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:22 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Nanban
Hmm... but I need them to be 1600-ish...
- Original Message -
From: Saragrace Knauf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Nanban trader...
There are a whole bunch of women if you go to the next few
Hi all!
Friends of ours have invited us to join an encampment for a week-long event.
They're a Japanese encampment, but were looking to include a couple of
Portuguese outsiders. They're looking for something like the so-called
nanban traders, around 1575-1600. Sooo... I've started looking for
My first question, of course, is: what would they wear? I can find tons
of information on Spain for these years (and gorgeous outfits too), but
nothing on Portugal. Well... yes and no. Royalty seems to be
interchangeable between Spain and Portugal at the time -- or is this
just a case of my
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