I have a past life as a theatrical hairdresser working in New York
and regionally in plays, musicals and operas, and we built rats out of nylon
net to use for wigs and hairstyles with the actors' own hair. Simply pick a
color of net similar to the hair shade, draw up a shirred length with needle
a
Oh yes, hair has scales and will felt! I had a lock of human hair
that I dyed along with some other thing I was dying black. I had to
basically card the hair afterwards to work out all the matting, think
dred locks...
alex
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:17 AM, landofoz wrote:
>> But wool has scales
But wool has scales on the fibres that help the felting process hair
doesn't. Nylon net. . . well, I don't want any of that stuff on my scalp
:-D (of course, this _is_ Penny's topic, not mine!)
Hair does have scales, just not the same as wool.
Anyway -- scales are not necessary for ne
But wool has scales on the fibres that help the felting process
hair doesn't. Nylon net. . . well, I don't want any of that stuff on
my scalp :-D (of course, this _is_ Penny's topic, not mine!)
== Marjorie
On May 3, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Sharon Collier wrote:
You could try nylon net-
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Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:33 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: hair receptacle
Penny,
Panty hose nylon is murder to put hairpins through, and hatpins would just
run it. Then there's
Penny,
A little googling yielded the term "water soluble fusible" and the
following (which doesn't seem exactly what I was trying to tell you
about!!):
There's a water-soluble fusible tape, called Wonder Tape, which
rinses out after construction is complete, and which therefore
doesn't
Penny,
Panty hose nylon is murder to put hairpins through, and hatpins would
just run it. Then there's the color issue already mentioned. I should
think almost anything else would work better.
I would despair of ever getting a cover to match my own hair, which is
now available in grayscal
Historical Costume <h-cost...@indra.com>
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 11:54 pm
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: hair receptacle
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Penny Ladnier
<penn...@costumegallery.com>wrote:
>
>
> Now, for making the rat...would it work best to pl
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Penny Ladnier wrote:
>
>
> Now, for making the rat...would it work best to place the hair in panty
> hose before using it in my hair?
>
>
I've heard 'invisible' hair nets plus some hairspray recommended by those
who've done it before. Pantyhose might work but one of
Someone in another post mentioned hair receptacle. I purchased an antique
ceramic hair receptacle a few months ago at an estate sale. I have no idea how
old it is. It is in two pieces that are donut shaped they sit one upon the
other. I have been collecting hair after washing my hair and bru
I have an area online called A Brush with History,
http://www.costumegallery.com/Hairstyles/Longhair/Women/menu.htm . It
features photographs of females with long hair and some of their hairstyles.
The majority of the photos are from the Victorian period. It is in a free
access area of my Res
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:32:31 +0100
From: Anne
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:
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I would be really interested to hear the result, if you choose this
ap
> After much effort and little discovery though, arranging my hair in a nice
> period coiffure seems entirely inpossible! Many people I know chose to wear
> wigs or hair pieces when in costume and although this looks very nice, I have
> been painstakingly growing out and caring for my own hair
Good to see your picture, Robin, after reading your postings on this list all
these years. I see you have quite a high forehead. My hair, as well as being
extremely thick, grows so low in front that when I used to wear it long (many
years ago) it was very difficult to keep it from falling over m
On 4/28/2010 7:28 PM, ladybeanofbun...@aol.com wrote:
There is a very good reason why people did not bathe that way
until warmer weather and it had a lot to do with the simple fact
that it was too cold to do so in winter.
The 1820s advice manuals for the middle classes that I used for _
: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:
In addition to directions for sponge-washing the hair without immersing the
whole head--where much of the soap would likely remain in the hair after the
process is over and therefore stiffen it--there are period arguments for and
against vigorously immersing
out right away.
Justine Jackson
DVLGS Organizer
www.DVLGS.org
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From: Lavolta Press <f...@lavoltapress.com>
To: Historical Costume <h-cost...@indra.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 28, 2010 9:57 pm
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:
When I was using a r
When I was using a run of 1867-1868 _Harper's Bazars_ for
_Reconstruction Era Fashions_, what struck me were the numerous
descriptions purchased chignons, a term used to cover a wide variety of
hair pieces/styles attached more or less to the back of the head. I put
some of this information in t
I collect hair care and style articles. They are in the subscription area
of my Library, http://www.pasthairstyles.com/. I have hair care manuals
online from 1899 and 1911. A study in the 1899 manual about women marriage
success according to their hair color. It is so funny! I have several
Carol,
Is the long hair email list that you and I belonged to still around? I
offered to pick up the list when they were closing it. but never heard back
from the owner.
Penny Ladnier
Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites
www.costumegallery.com
14 websites of fashion, textiles, & costume hist
There are salons that specialize in long hair, conditioning
rather than cutting. While they may also have modern sensibilities
regarding styles, they do know how to handle long lengths. The idea
of bringing a picture or two is a good one.
The George Michael Salon in New York has
In addition to directions for sponge-washing the hair without immersing the
whole head--where much of the soap would likely remain in the hair after the
process is over and therefore stiffen it--there are period arguments for and
against vigorously immersing and washing the whole head full of
Another factor worth considering is frequency of cleaning. Today's
typical regimen, for many people, assumes daily washing with shampoo, a
phenomenon that developed within my lifetime. 50 years ago, washing once
a week seemed more the norm. This difference really has an effect on the
oil balanc
Lavolta Press wrote:
For the 19th century at least, the "they got the texture and body by
never washing their hair" is a reenactor's myth. In fact, people were
using the equivalents of modern hair products, whether these came in a
bottle with a label or not.
You're right about that; it's an
There are also various references to using gum Arabic (glue) to make the
hair stay in curl.
Fran
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One option is to overload the hair with gels, powders, or other
additives when you do the styling, to make it "stickier," but this can
get pretty nasty and heavy, and may cause other problems with the
styling. Another solution -- but this takes a longer-term commitment --
is to adopt a pre-moder
May I suggest finding an Asian hairdresser who is used to dealing with Asian
brides? When I got married I had my hair done at the Luxor hotel in Los Vegas,
and the woman was very used to working with Asian long hair (mine was waist
length). She knew exactly how to put most of it up, and then do
On 4/27/2010 11:08 PM, ladybeanofbun...@aol.com wrote:
Hello fellow costumers.
?
I wanted to thank those of you who offered your suggestions on mounting swags
onto my 1880s balldress. Your advice helped immensely in the creation process
and everything went together mostly as planned. My only
Sharon Collier wrote:
Many people save their hair, the stuff that ends up in their brush, for use
in fancy hair styles. They make a "rat" of it and pin/arrange the rest of
the hair over it. Also, many fancy hairstyles used false pieces. There is a
scene in "Jefferson In Paris", where the daughter
...@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:08 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:
Hello fellow costumers.
?
I wanted to thank those of you who offered your suggestions on mounting
swags onto my 1880s balldress. Your advice helped immensely in the creation
process and e
kens fair folks. They have photos in a book
outside the booth.
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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Anne
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:33 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:
I would be reall
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> On Behalf Of ladybeanofbun...@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:08 PM
> To: h-cost...@indra.com
> Subject: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:
>
> Hello fellow costumers.
> ?
> I wanted to thank those of you who offered your suggestions o
different mindset. (There is one exception
but that was because she was interested in historic hair.)
From: Anne
To: Historical Costume
Sent: Wed, April 28, 2010 12:32:31 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:
I would be really interested to hear the resu
I would be really interested to hear the result, if you choose this
approach, because, to be honest, I never had much luck. My hair is just
to my waist, and I have found that hairdressers are more practised in
putting up hair that is to shoulder-blades or shorter. They don't seem
to know wher
This is a thought...take an image of what you want and take it to a
hairdresser that does bridal styles. Ask them if they can recreate the
style. There are hairdressers that specialize in bridal up-dos.
Penny Ladnier (who grew my hair long in the early 1980s to look like Laura's
hair on Gene
Hello fellow costumers.
?
I wanted to thank those of you who offered your suggestions on mounting swags
onto my 1880s balldress. Your advice helped immensely in the creation process
and everything went together mostly as planned. My only frustration was that
once the decorative parts were?tacke
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