[Hampshire] [OT] Armoured network cable supplier?

2009-08-04 Thread Chris Dennis
Hello folks Can anyone recommend a supplier and/or installer of armoured ethernet cable? My client (www.lotusflowertrust.org) needs a network connection to their outside office about 30m from the main house. cheers Chris -- Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Armoured network cable supplier?

2009-08-04 Thread Victor Churchill
I have done DIY installations of outside cables in the past by laying PVC water pipes in a trench and then threading the cable though those. You can either bend the pipe or make joints for changes of direction depending on how sharp they are. Not quite what you are after, but a possible alternative

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Armoured network cable supplier?

2009-08-04 Thread Philip Stubbs
2009/8/4 Chris Dennis : > Hello folks > > Can anyone recommend a supplier and/or installer of armoured ethernet cable? > > My client (www.lotusflowertrust.org) needs a network connection to their > outside office about 30m from the main house. When I wired up my shed, I just burried some small dra

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Armoured network cable supplier?

2009-08-04 Thread Chris Dennis
Victor Churchill wrote: > I have done DIY installations of outside cables in the past by laying > PVC water pipes in a trench and then threading the cable though those. > You can either bend the pipe or make joints for changes of direction > depending on how sharp they are. Not quite what you are a

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Armoured network cable supplier?

2009-08-04 Thread Victor Churchill
2009/8/4 Chris Dennis : > Thanks for the replies.  I did the cable-in-a-pipe thing once in the > past, but I wasn't convinced that the result would last, and it involved > a lot of hassle getting the wires down the pipe. > > Maybe I'll reconsider wifi solutions. ... or you could look into armoure

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Armoured network cable supplier?

2009-08-04 Thread Paul Stimpson
Hi, I've never seen armoured cable per-se (would have thought it would have been too difficult to stick the connectors on and plug it in. I've used exterior grade cable and found it good. If I wanted to do that I'd probably put it in conduit. I would look at millsltd.com or wadsworth.co.uk

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Armoured network cable supplier?

2009-08-04 Thread Paul Stimpson
Hi again, When we do that we lay two parallel pipes and thread a pull rope down one and back down the other. The rope is then tied in a continuous loop for loss-free pulling :) We usually use 4" plastic pipe as it's not tight and should make pulling easy. Cheers, Paul. Sent from my BlackBe

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Armoured network cable supplier?

2009-08-04 Thread Chris Dennis
David Ramsden wrote: > Chris Dennis wrote: >> Hello folks >> >> Can anyone recommend a supplier and/or installer of armoured ethernet >> cable? >> >> My client (www.lotusflowertrust.org) needs a network connection to >> their outside office about 30m from the main house. >> > > Hi Chris, > > I'

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-04 Thread Stuart Sears
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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Armoured network cable supplier?

2009-08-04 Thread Bob Dunlop
Hi, On Tue, Aug 04 at 12:00, Chris Dennis wrote: ... > My client (www.lotusflowertrust.org) needs a network connection to their > outside office about 30m from the main house. Armoured cable may be well over the top for the application. My phone and Ethernet lines run through the professionaly

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-04 Thread David Webb
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Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-04 Thread Stephen Rowles
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2009-08-04 Thread Stephen Rowles
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Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-04 Thread David Webb
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Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-04 Thread Stephen Rowles
On 08/04/2009 03:52 PM, David Webb wrote: Stephen Rowles wrote: You've missed my suggestions My mistake - sorry about that. No worries. What is the position re Linux drivers? Are they the same NVidia ones as the Acer Aspire? David The drivers are exactly the same as for the

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Armoured network cable supplier?

2009-08-04 Thread Tim
On Tuesday 04 August 2009 12:24:31 Chris Dennis wrote: > Victor Churchill wrote: > > I have done DIY installations of outside cables in the past by laying > > PVC water pipes in a trench and then threading the cable though those. > > You can either bend the pipe or make joints for changes of direct

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Armoured network cable supplier?

2009-08-04 Thread Alan Pope
2009/8/4 Bob Dunlop : > But this is overkill.  I've also run standard CAT5 (not even exterior grade) > buried in the turf at 2-3 inches, it's been down for three years without a > problem.  I'm guessing that like most things it will last until someone with > a shovel disturbs it. > My network to t

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Armoured network cable supplier?

2009-08-04 Thread Dave Walker
Paul Stimpson wrote: > Thanks for the replies. I did the cable-in-a-pipe thing once in the > past, but I wasn't convinced that the result would last, and it involved > a lot of hassle getting the wires down the pipe. > Hi Paul, Perhaps I'm oversimplifying, but isn't two pipes, with one es

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Armoured network cable supplier?

2009-08-04 Thread Chris Dennis
Chris Dennis wrote: > Hello folks > > Can anyone recommend a supplier and/or installer of armoured ethernet cable? > > My client (www.lotusflowertrust.org) needs a network connection to their > outside office about 30m from the main house. > > cheers > > Chris Well, that generated some intere

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Armoured network cable supplier?

2009-08-04 Thread Paul Stimpson
Hi, You can get by with one pipe but the day the cord comes off whilst you're pulling or if you want to add cables when you're not taking any out it becomes a pain. No pullies required, just a loop of rope coming out each end and going into the other pipe. We usually put mains down one pipe

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-04 Thread Rob Malpass
- Original Message - From: "Samuel Penn" To: "Hampshire LUG Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC? > On Sunday 02 August 2009 19:53:59 Stuart Matheson wrote: >> looking for a quiet multimedia PC that can be plugged int

[Hampshire] Pipe issues

2009-08-04 Thread Leo
I've got a shell script that calls a program and pipes its output to grep, i.e. #!/bin/bash program | grep -v "remaining\s*$" When I run the script this works fine (i.e. no lines output ending in remaining). However if I set the script to run using anacron then I always get an email

Re: [Hampshire] Pipe issues

2009-08-04 Thread Jim Kissel
Leo wrote: > I've got a shell script that calls a program and pipes its output to > grep, i.e. > > #!/bin/bash > > program | grep -v "remaining\s*$" > > > When I run the script this works fine (i.e. no lines output ending in > remaining). However if I set the script to run using ana

Re: [Hampshire] Ultimate Linux Media PC?

2009-08-04 Thread Hugo Mills
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 08:51:26PM +0100, Rob Malpass wrote: > Coming to this debate rather late - I've been looking for something that > will simply read files off my NAS and play them. If it can do video then > great but I can't find a device anywhere that will read mp3s and play them > back

Re: [Hampshire] Pipe issues

2009-08-04 Thread Simon Reap
Leo wrote: > #!/bin/bash > > program | grep -v "remaining\s*$" > > I would put the grep string in single quotes - anacron may be messing up the trailing $ (BTW, did anyone else read the subject of this email and assume it was carrying on the armoured ethernet thread?) -- Please p

Re: [Hampshire] Pipe issues

2009-08-04 Thread Bob Dunlop
On Tue, Aug 04 at 08:56, Leo wrote: > I've got a shell script that calls a program and pipes its output to > grep, i.e. > > #!/bin/bash > > program | grep -v "remaining\s*$" > > > When I run the script this works fine (i.e. no lines output ending in > remaining). However if I set the

Re: [Hampshire] Pipe issues

2009-08-04 Thread Leo
Unfortunately that didn't make a difference. Jim Kissel wrote: > > > Leo wrote: >> I've got a shell script that calls a program and pipes its output to >> grep, i.e. >> >> #!/bin/bash >> >> program | grep -v "remaining\s*$" >> >> >> When I run the script this works fine (i.e. no lines

Re: [Hampshire] Pipe issues

2009-08-04 Thread Leo
Bob Dunlop wrote: > > Whos turning the \s into a space I wonder ? > > It's not a bash syntax that I recognise, nor a grep one ? > > Are you using csh for your interactive session ? > > Try the following in your script. > > program | grep -E -v "remaining[[:space:]]*$" > > That's a combination

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Armoured network cable supplier?

2009-08-04 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
2009/8/4 Chris Dennis : > Hello folks > > Can anyone recommend a supplier and/or installer of armoured ethernet cable? > > My client (www.lotusflowertrust.org) needs a network connection to their > outside office about 30m from the main house. > > cheers > > Chris > -- Don't bother with armored ca

Re: [Hampshire] Pipe issues

2009-08-04 Thread Leo
Simon Reap wrote: > > I would put the grep string in single quotes - anacron may be messing up > the trailing $ > > (BTW, did anyone else read the subject of this email and assume it was > carrying on the armoured ethernet thread?) > That didn't help either, but it did give me an idea. I did

Re: [Hampshire] Pipe issues

2009-08-04 Thread Hugo Mills
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:18:32PM +0100, Leo wrote: > Bob Dunlop wrote: > > > > Whos turning the \s into a space I wonder ? > > > > It's not a bash syntax that I recognise, nor a grep one ? > > > > Are you using csh for your interactive session ? > > > > Try the following in your script. > >

Re: [Hampshire] Pipe issues

2009-08-04 Thread Leo
Hugo Mills wrote: > >I have a thought... is this program normally run interactively? If > so, does it present a countdown of remaining time or bytes? If so, > it's quite likely that it's using CR, reverse tabs, or other control > characters to overwrite the previous line. If it's doing that, y