There are other ways of dealing with this problem, depending on how far
you want to go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBfsdkGeMc8
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:17:18 +
Tony Wood wrote:
Hello Tony,
>Oh I like that, Brad: the witness protection idea.
:-)
>I think the pause on answering (many calls) is due to computer dialling
>connecting the call centre worker when it finds an answered phone.
Indexed caller devices are supp
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:13:15 +
Anthony wrote:
Hello Anthony,
>I'm pretty sure you'd enjoy a look at http://www.saynotocoldcalls.com.
I wasn't aware of that site, but as soon as I visited, I realised who
that guy is, and that he's already been compensated twice.
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On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 11:48 +, Brad Rogers wrote:
> The use of those devices is supposed to be illegal in the UK, but I bet
> they get used quite extensively. Of course, since most of these calls
> originate overseas, the point is moot.
Sadly the reason so many originate overseas is specific
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:17:18 +
Tony Wood wrote:
Hello Tony,
>Oh I like that, Brad: the witness protection idea.
:-)
>I think the pause on answering (many calls) is due to computer dialling
>connecting the call centre worker when it finds an answered phone.
The use of those devices is sup
> From: Brad Rogers
> If the callers are an overseas operation, or you're a customer of theirs,
> to all intents and purposes, you're stuffed. Since these scam calls, by
> and large, originate from overseas there's little that can be done.
> From: Keith Edmunds
> Unfortunately, the legislation do
> From: Brad Rogers
> If the callers are an overseas operation, or you're a customer of theirs,
> to all intents and purposes, you're stuffed. Since these scam calls, by
> and large, originate from overseas there's little that can be done.
> From: Keith Edmunds
> Unfortunately, the legislation do
Hi,
I also never confirm my name until I know who I am talking to.
"Hello, is that Mr. Paul Stimpson?"
"Can in help you?"
The witness protection scheme one is good but the one I love (and that
surprisingly works) when someone calls asking if they can transfer my phone
service to Yack Yack (
On 27/01/13 22:17, Tony Wood wrote:
Oh I like that, Brad: the witness protection idea.
I think the pause on answering (many calls) is due to computer
dialling connecting the call centre worker when it finds an answered
phone.
There are several techniques, in particular people and answering
Oh I like that, Brad: the witness protection idea.
I think the pause on answering (many calls) is due to computer dialling
connecting the call centre worker when it finds an answered phone.
When I'm addressed by name - in such circumstances - I never admit to
being ...
Tony Wood
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:10:17 +
Tony Wood wrote:
Hello Tony,
>I recently asked my ex-directory neighbours about cold telephone calls
>and it seems they get more than I do. (Their most recent was the
Possibly because they give out their number to all the companies, web
sites and what-not th
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:19:22 +
Keith Edmunds wrote:
> When we moved house in 2007, we had a new telephone number. We made it
> ex-directory: no marketing calls at all. Or many others, come to that.
We have always had an ex-directory number but it didn't stop unwanted
calls. We have also re-s
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:19:22 +
Keith Edmunds wrote:
Hello Keith,
>But they seldom are.
I know. The second paragraph in my mail indicated my awareness of the
overseas issues.
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/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)radnever immediately apparent
I recently asked my ex-directory neighbours about cold telephone calls
and it seems they get more than I do. (Their most recent was the
'Microsoft' 'your computer has a virus' scam.)
There's a telltale pause when we answer the phone. Often we are:
addressed by name; asked 'How are you today?
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:56:41 +, b...@fineby.me.uk said:
> So, if the callers are UK based they can be penalised.
But they seldom are. Reporting companies to the TPS is like reporting them
to /dev/null. Unfortunately, the legislation doesn't provide for
compensation to the callee, which might
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:21:52 +
Imran Chaudhry wrote:
Hello Imran,
>I have heard some unscrupulous companies do not comply with it but it
>is better than nothing.
TPS adherence is now supposed to be law. Few people seem to be aware
oif that, though. So, if the callers are UK based they can
On 27 January 2013 15:21, Imran Chaudhry wrote:
> Are you on the TPS[0] Roger? I did so some years back and it
> dramatically reduced the cold calls I got via landline.
>
> I have heard some unscrupulous companies do not comply with it but it
> is better than nothing.
>
We subscribed to TPS seve
Are you on the TPS[0] Roger? I did so some years back and it
dramatically reduced the cold calls I got via landline.
I have heard some unscrupulous companies do not comply with it but it
is better than nothing.
[0] http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/index.html
On 25 January 2013 12:46, Roger Munfor
I got one of these calls about 10 days ago. Strangely, it was on my
mobile. These calls pretty well always have 'number withheld' on Caller
ID but because I was roaming internationally, their caller ID showed up.
I found that the number 'belongs' to one of the companies that operates
the 0891 S
I see it as a good thing to waste their time, especially when they are
trying to get you to install something. At least then they are not getting
someone else more gullible to install this software.
There are lots of funny stories online about what people have done when
they get these types of cal
On Friday 25 January 2013 19:31:19 Sean Gibbins wrote:
> Naive or possibly even wiflfully ignorant,
> but not necessarily dishonest.
True of many. But the "share" sellers are definitely dishonest bullies. I
have crossed swords with one such firm (Galissard) in the person of some ten
or twelve
On 25/01/13 21:53, Roger Munford wrote:
I think that a BT armed response service could be quite popular.
I don't trust BT to provide me with broadband Roger, I'm not sure I want
to even contemplate them handling national security!
Sean
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I feel a bit silly now that I realise how widespread the problem was and
I am just one of millions probably.
I did fantasise that BT had a department with capabilities similar to
the CIA in the Jason Bourne films and that, with my help, an armed BT
drone would be on its way to Asia to sort "Je
On 25 January 2013 19:37, Keith Edmunds wrote:
> OK, I can agree naive rather than dishonest. However, that does not
> absolve them of responsibility for their actions.
>
Yep, I'd probably add "ignorant" (in the non pejorative sense) and possibly
"desperate" too. I would agree with the general
OK, I can agree naive rather than dishonest. However, that does not
absolve them of responsibility for their actions.
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On 25/01/13 19:12, Keith Edmunds wrote:
I suspect that they are offered a job [[...] and take it with no
>questions asked
That is their choice and their responsibility. It doesn't excuse them
being dishonest.
That's a very selective interpretation of my reply Keith.
It is possible that they a
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:53:56 +, s...@funkygibbins.me.uk said:
> I suspect that they are offered a job [[...] and take it with no
> questions asked
That is their choice and their responsibility. It doesn't excuse them
being dishonest.
"Excuse me, I see you're booked on the flight to Heathrow.
On 25/01/13 17:21, Tony Wood wrote:
Have I got this right, Victor: you feel sorry for those knowingly
making dishonest cold calls to con the public?
I'm not entirely sure that the drones are dishonest. I suspect that they
are offered a job cold-calling and installing software with little
know
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:21:05 +
Tony Wood wrote:
Hello Tony,
>Have I got this right, Victor: you feel sorry for those knowingly
>making dishonest cold calls to con the public?
Victor, I think, believes that those people /actually/ doing the calling
are, by and large, also being duped by the
On 25/01/13 16:56, Victor Churchill wrote:
I, somewhat to my shame, 'toyed' with one of those "Hello, my name is
Tom and I am calling to tell you that Microsoft have found a problem
with your computer" calls for a while, to the point where I departed
from the script by not having an Internet
Have I got this right, Victor: you feel sorry for those knowingly making
dishonest cold calls to con the public?
Tony Wood
On 25/01/13 16:56, Victor Churchill wrote:
I, somewhat to my shame, 'toyed' with one of those "Hello, my name is
Tom and I am calling to tell you that Mi
On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 16:56 +, Victor Churchill wrote:
> I, somewhat to my shame, 'toyed' with one of those "Hello, my name is
> Tom and I am calling to tell you that Microsoft have found a problem
> with your computer" calls for a while, to the point where I departed
> from the script by not h
I, somewhat to my shame, 'toyed' with one of those "Hello, my name is Tom
and I am calling to tell you that Microsoft have found a problem with your
computer" calls for a while, to the point where I departed from the script
by not having an Internet Explorer to open, and then not having a Start
but
On Friday 25 January 2013 12:46:16 Roger Munford wrote:
> Is there anything further that I can do?
Waste some more of his time? He is off shore, so there is not anything that
our law enforcement can realistically do.
Spread the word? These calls only pay because some people are fooled. But
y
On 25/01/13 12:46, Roger Munford wrote:
> I just received a scamming call from Asia and spent some time playing
> gullible while trying to get my wife to phone the police/BT with a
> hope that the call could be traced and stopped.
>
> However the police, "actionfraud" operator told that there was n
I just received a scamming call from Asia and spent some time playing
gullible while trying to get my wife to phone the police/BT with a hope
that the call could be traced and stopped.
However the police, "actionfraud" operator told that there was nothing
that could be done and BT operator ser
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