Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-11 Thread Viktor Szakáts
>> What you get is a .c source regardless of >> the -gc mode, but the problem is that we're >> running a translator from .prg to .c. In that >> sense it should not make a difference. >> > Yes, but this translator is run only once, during program build, from there on > it is a pure machine code

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-11 Thread Maurilio Longo
Viktor Szakáts wrote: > Hi Maurilio, > >> what about using -gc3 to have an application which is not executed by a VM? > > What you get is a .c source regardless of > the -gc mode, but the problem is that we're > running a translator from .prg to .c. In that > sense it should not make a differe

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-10 Thread francesco perillo
> At least that's Apple's intent. As to how they > can defend these rules "in court", I have no idea. They will not accept your program in their store... if you program is a .99$ one it is a real problem but if you are able to sell one program in a vertical market for 100.000$... no need of i

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-10 Thread Viktor Szakáts
Hi Maurilio, > what about using -gc3 to have an application which is not executed by a VM? What you get is a .c source regardless of the -gc mode, but the problem is that we're running a translator from .prg to .c. In that sense it should not make a difference. The other thing is that if you

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-10 Thread Maurilio Longo
Viktor, what about using -gc3 to have an application which is not executed by a VM? Maurilio. Viktor Szakáts wrote: >>> You have to be a registered with Apple developer in order to access to >>> that SDK. They are getting too closed and restrictive... :-( >> I am a registered developer and the r

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-08 Thread Antonio Linares
Viktor, The project itself is quite small but it is (was) a working seed that could easily grow ("a big tree comes out of a small seed") :-) Also I have similiar feelings about my FiveMac project, which it is much more evolved and actually offers a very good functionality. In fact we could take p

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-08 Thread Viktor Szakáts
Hi Antonio, > Two years ago (aproximately) I started an iPhone GUI library for > Harbour. It was working fine but as the iPhone SDK was changing so > much and as a new jailbreak was required for each new version, then I > decided to stop it and wait. Also there seemed to be very little > interest

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-08 Thread Antonio Linares
Viktor, Two years ago (aproximately) I started an iPhone GUI library for Harbour. It was working fine but as the iPhone SDK was changing so much and as a new jailbreak was required for each new version, then I decided to stop it and wait. Also there seemed to be very little interest about it. Now

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-08 Thread Viktor Szakáts
>> You have to be a registered with Apple developer in order to access to >> that SDK. They are getting too closed and restrictive... :-( > > I am a registered developer and the registration > was fully free. This means I can now open XCode and > create an iPhone app project. An iPhone emulator

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-08 Thread Viktor Szakáts
> I will keep posting all my results and logs here, as I move forward. Okay, great. >> It's also a matter of detecting the platform in >> source. Can you run this command on the iPad: >> gcc -dM -E - < /dev/null >> >> and post the output? > > #define __DBL_MIN_EXP__ (-1021) [...] > #define __

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-08 Thread Antonio Linares
A useful link for non mac users: http://jeremylg.blogspot.com/2009/10/building-cc-applications-using-gccg-on.html ___ Harbour mailing list (attachment size limit: 40KB) Harbour@harbour-project.org http://lists.harbour-project.org/mailman/listinfo/harbour

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-08 Thread Antonio Linares
Viktor, > That's good, but to avoid guessing the exact > location, some sort of log output would certainly > help anyway. I will keep posting all my results and logs here, as I move forward. > It's also a matter of detecting the platform in > source. Can you run this command on the iPad: >   gcc

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread Viktor Szakáts
>> [ It would be interesting to see though if it's possible >> to mix the official XCode / iPad SDK Objective-C world >> with Harbour to create real and officially accepted >> applications. (and it still remains a question what >> real benefit does it give to be able to use Harbour >> in such scena

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread Viktor Szakáts
Hi Antonio, >> Pls send the warnings to the list and I'm sure we can >> fix them. > > The iPhone OS (thats how Apple names it for both the iphone and the > ipad) does not provide libm.a as it is part of libSystem and based on > what I have read, libSystem is linked by default (not 100% sure about

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread Antonio Linares
Viktor, > [ It would be interesting to see though if it's possible > to mix the official XCode / iPad SDK Objective-C world > with Harbour to create real and officially accepted > applications. (and it still remains a question what > real benefit does it give to be able to use Harbour > in such sc

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread Antonio Linares
Viktor, >> There is just a minor required fix in order to avoid the use of modf() >> as it is not supported (help Viktor! :-) > > Pls send the warnings to the list and I'm sure we can > fix them. The iPhone OS (thats how Apple names it for both the iphone and the ipad) does not provide libm.a as

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread francesco perillo
Viktor, my post was ironic ! > Such experimentation is obviously a technical stunt > rather than a "proper" way to create official iPad > application. It's nevertheless interesting, just like > running Linux on every possible electronic device. Yes, I have a frined running linux on his NintendoDS

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread Viktor Szakáts
>> Are there any license problem to run Harbour on iPad? >> []'s Maniero > > Yes, since you have to jailbreak it you are probably breaking apple license... > > You are not using official compilers, not following apple guidelines, > not giving money for SDK, not paying fee for selling via their >

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread francesco perillo
> Hi > Are there any license problem to run Harbour on iPad? > []'s Maniero Yes, since you have to jailbreak it you are probably breaking apple license... You are not using official compilers, not following apple guidelines, not giving money for SDK, not paying fee for selling via their store

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread Antonio Maniero
There is a problem on the iPad side :-) At least seems it when I read tech news about iPad. []'s Maniero 2010/5/7 Viktor Szakáts > > Are there any license problem to run Harbour on iPad? > > From the Harbour side there isn't. > > Viktor > > ___ > Ha

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread Viktor Szakáts
> Are there any license problem to run Harbour on iPad? From the Harbour side there isn't. Viktor ___ Harbour mailing list (attachment size limit: 40KB) Harbour@harbour-project.org http://lists.harbour-project.org/mailman/listinfo/harbour

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread Antonio Maniero
Hi Are there any license problem to run Harbour on iPad? []'s Maniero 2010/5/7 Viktor Szakáts > Hi Antonio, > > > I have managed to build Harbour for the iPad: > > > > http://www.fivetechsoft.com/files/harbour-ipad.zip > > Great! > > > You need to jailbreak in order to use it. Next I will po

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread Viktor Szakáts
Hi Antonio, > I have managed to build Harbour for the iPad: > > http://www.fivetechsoft.com/files/harbour-ipad.zip Great! > You need to jailbreak in order to use it. Next I will post some screenshots > > There is just a minor required fix in order to avoid the use of modf() > as it is not supp

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread Patrick Mast
Hey Antonio, > I have managed to build Harbour for the iPad: > http://www.fivetechsoft.com/files/harbour-ipad.zip COOL! ;-)) Congrats! Patrick ___ Harbour mailing list (attachment size limit: 40KB) Harbour@harbour-project.org http://lists.harbour-proje

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread Antonio Linares
Massimo, You can use putty to SSH access a jailbreak iPad and compile, etc from the Windows putty terminal best regards, Antonio 2010/5/7 Massimo Belgrano : > Hi antonio > I am very intrested for ipad/antroid/window mobile > Is possible compile from windows? > http://developer.apple.com/iphone/

Re: [Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread Massimo Belgrano
Hi antonio I am very intrested for ipad/antroid/window mobile Is possible compile from windows? http://developer.apple.com/iphone/index.action 2010/5/7 Antonio Linares > I have managed to build Harbour for the iPad: > > http://www.fivetechsoft.co

[Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread Antonio Linares
Accessing the iPad through SSH and executing harbour: http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/1553/capturetl.png ___ Harbour mailing list (attachment size limit: 40KB) Harbour@harbour-project.org http://lists.harbour-project.org/mailman/listinfo/harbour

[Harbour] Harbour for the iPad - ok

2010-05-07 Thread Antonio Linares
I have managed to build Harbour for the iPad: http://www.fivetechsoft.com/files/harbour-ipad.zip You need to jailbreak in order to use it. Next I will post some screenshots There is just a minor required fix in order to avoid the use of modf() as it is not supported (help Viktor! :-) The major o