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On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 10:56 -0700, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
> Users may say they need such and such a
> design, but that design may be ill-suited to their needs. More to the
> point, t
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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] MUMPS and VistA ( more M read questions)
> User describe functionality and engineers turn functionality into a
design,
> present to users, users go this is not quite what we anted, repeat until
> both agree.
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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] MUMPS and VistA ( more M read questions)
This is where I don't quite follow you. See below
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This was exactly my
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 20:18 +, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
wrote:
> User describe functionality and engineers turn functionality into a
> design,
> present to users, users go this is not quite what we anted, repeat
> until
> both agree. Correct ?
>
Not correct. In this system you've
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 10:56 -0700, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
> Users may say they need such and such a
> design, but that design may be ill-suited to their needs. More to the
> point, though, the use of a particular database product (or type of
> cabling) is simply not a functional issue.
More to the
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On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 09:12, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AF
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Requirements analysis is a real skill. It requires a degree of domain
knowledge and understanding of the technical issues involved, but more
importantly, the "people" skills necessary to be able to effectively
facilitate the ongoing discussion between the parties involved, and to
appreciate the wha
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My experience has been that users generally do not have a very clear
idea of what they want. What they DO know is what doesn't work for them
in what they have now. The users will often have some (maybe even
mutually contr
: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:16 AM
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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] MUMPS and VistA ( more M read questions)
My experience has been that users generally do not have a very clear
idea of what they want. What they DO know is what doesn't work for them
in
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On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 10:44, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE wrote:
> You should not get programming specs from a customer but should get general
> functionality that is desired. The customer should say I want to have remote
> clients that can do the same thing as local clients, or that I can enter
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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] MUMPS and VistA ( more M read questions)
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 09:12, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE wrote:
> I believe that what he means is that we actually talk to someone who is
> going to use Vista, get the wish list then decide what is feasible
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> On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 09:55 -0700, A. Forrey wrote:
> > If the VistA Community is going to
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I think I disagree. This type of dialog is needed to establish the
requirements that must be met by *medical applications*, but what
characteristics a language, operating system, or other platform must
have to allow systemas to be built meeting those requirements without
unreasonable difficulty is
Ruben:
There must be a level of dialog with the health Professional disciplines
that may embrace this technology; they dont need detailed technical say
but they do need dialog. It was done before the MDC and MTA were dissolved
and it can be done again on a productive plain but folks arent goi
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 09:55 -0700, A. Forrey wrote:
> If the VistA Community is going to reach the rest of
> the world it needs to tell them how it will deal with this problem
> and
> then get on with it.
Free Software projects just adapt to needs as developers precieve them,
which is frankly,
The notion of moving the standard forward was part of the dialog at the
April VCM and it was my understanding that the MDC would be reactivated
via a host organization and a communication process defined by which
reviewing the "Millenium Standard" that existed in Sept 1999 would occur
and then
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> >I actually didn't know that MUMPS_V1 was (now) open source.
> Orig
oving the language forward or just stuck on the idea that there
is only one way to move it forward.
Jim Gray
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way to
move it forward.
Jim Gray
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Subject: [Hardhats-members] MUMPS and VistA ( more M read questions)
I actually didn't know that MUMPS_V1 was (now) open
I actually didn't know that MUMPS_V1 was (now) open source. Originally,
I was looking for a version of MUMPS that I could run under Windows
but, as I recall, the developer was adamant that it not be ported to
Windows, so it was of no real use to me. Since then, I've decided to
use OS X as my primar
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