RE: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-07 Thread David Sommers
d. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sowinski, Richard J. Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:41 PM To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net' Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] What will receive

RE: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-07 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Microsoft isn't the issue. Following standards is the issue. --- "Sowinski, Richard J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > On viruses I'm talking about when Exchange is out of the equation, > and Vista > mail is all you're running. Somehow, I don't think there would have > been > nearly as many

RE: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-07 Thread Sowinski, Richard J.
, October 07, 2005 4:21 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >[...] > > But, how many things does Exchange do that VistA Mail can't do, > especially > when enhanced

RE: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-07 Thread Greg Woodhouse
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >[...] > > But, how many things does Exchange do that VistA Mail can't do, > especially > when enhanced with GUI Mail or other GUI clients? How about X.400? Okay, okay...We're really comparing apples and oranges here. Outlook as an MUA is one thing, Exchange as an

RE: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-07 Thread Richard . Sowinski
correctly, nothing you do with GUI Mail is > going to correct that. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike > Schrom > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 6:54 AM > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net >

RE: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-07 Thread Greg Woodhouse
tly, nothing you do with GUI Mail > is > going to correct that. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Mike > Schrom > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 6:54 AM > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net >

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-07 Thread Mike Schrom
ginal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Schrom Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 6:54 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? The VA doesn't seem to use the GUI mail either! Whi

RE: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-07 Thread Greg Woodhouse
u do with GUI Mail > is > going to correct that. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Mike > Schrom > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 6:54 AM > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-member

RE: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-07 Thread Richard . Sowinski
riday, September 30, 2005 6:54 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? The VA doesn't seem to use the GUI mail either! While we have, and some people still use, MailMan in text form, most e-mail communication is via Outlook

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-05 Thread Usha
ay, October 05, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? Hi   On our Linux server, we have Postfix configured to send and receive mails for a domain abc.net. Since I wanted Postfix to accept mails for the VisA domain (pacifichui.openv

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-04 Thread Usha
o that the mails are sent to VistA MailMan?   Regards Usha - Original Message - From: Gregory Woodhouse To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? I

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-03 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
I've never used Postfix (I think it's come along since I've been involved with electronic mail to a significant extent) but it should be possible. In fact, I think using an MTA like Postfix or sendmail would be a good idea.I'm sure the terminology is different, but with sendmail, you can define a d

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-03 Thread Usha
stA?   Regards Usha - Original Message - From: Gregory Woodhouse To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? I guess I spent too long in IETF lists

RE: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-02 Thread David Sommers
"secure"? /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:49 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Wh

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-02 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
You do realize that VistA allows you to control where mail may be sent (at least directly), and outgoing mail to non-local recipients can be disallowed completely. If you wish to create a transmission script using strong encryption, it should be reasonably straightforward to do so. Be aware

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-02 Thread Ruben Safir
If Vista's built in mail doesn't force cryptography, that is yet another problem There is no point in including mail with the system if it is not incuding cryptography for HIPPA information Ruben On Sun, 2005-10-02 at 21:49, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: > And I don't think anyone is suggesting that

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-02 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
And I don't think anyone is suggesting that Exchange be used for this purpose. You forget that VistA is used for a lot of other things having to do with the day to day operation of a medical center, too. Also, as a described in a separate message, it is somewhat misleading to think of it as

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-02 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Basically, I agree with you here. However, it is a mistake to think of VistA as *just* a healthcare application. It's not even really an application, but more of an operating environment, containing something like a shell (Menu Manager) and a wide variety of (sometimes tightly integrated) "

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-02 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
--- Original Message - From: "Gregory Woodhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? If I recall correctly (as someone else said, no one uses it much anymore), it does support uue

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-02 Thread Ruben Safir
prompt > > - Original Message - > From: John Leo Zimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:26 am > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? > > > From: Ruben Safir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Ho

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-02 Thread Ruben Safir
t;There is a GUI mail, but I don't know much about it. > >>> > >>>On Friday 30 September 2005 03:11 am, Usha wrote: > >>>MailMan is used to send the text message. > >>> > >>>Regards > >>>Usha > >>> > >>>

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-02 Thread Mike Lieman
On 9/30/05, Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess I spent too long in IETF lists (and a few meetings) hashing out the > updates to 821 and 822. Let's just say that one member of the group was > sufficiently abrasive that I lost all interest in qmail. The MTA I know best > is sendma

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-10-02 Thread Chris Richardson
ROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? > If I recall correctly (as someone else said, no one uses it much > anymore), it does support uuencode, but is not MIME compliant, so > there are no prop

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Sort of. It only supports uuencode, and it doesn't support MIME properly, so there are no multipart messages. Only clients supporting the (now ancient) mechanism of appending uuencoded pieces to the end of an unstructured message will be able to handle them. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROT

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
I guess I spent too long in IETF lists (and a few meetings) hashing out the updates to 821 and 822. Let's just say that one member of the group was sufficiently abrasive that I lost all interest in qmail. The MTA I know best is sendmail; I haven't taken the time to look into postfix or exim (for no

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread Jim Drash
What about exim or postfix (which is what I use)? On 9/30/05, Mike Lieman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's why despite the setback,  the holy war continues... There isone true email MTA ( qmail ) and one client access protocol (IMAP )./me says, as he counts three, and ducks...

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
If I recall correctly (as someone else said, no one uses it much anymore), it does support uuencode, but is not MIME compliant, so there are no proper attachments. You would probably be better off using the POP server (no one has implemented IMAP). As an MTA, Mailman can transport mail wit

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread whitten
GUI Mail does support attachments. > > So it only allows text based and no attachments? > > > On Friday 30 September 2005 12:06 pm, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: > GUI mail is a client (like Outlook). Mailman is the "server" piece > (like Exchange server). GUI Mailman is not a replacement for Mailm

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
GUI mail is a client (like Outlook). Mailman is the "server" piece (like Exchange server). GUI Mailman is not a replacement for Mailman, just an alternative mechanism for interacting with it. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure c

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread Nancy Anthracite
So it only allows text based and no attachments? On Friday 30 September 2005 12:06 pm, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: GUI mail is a client (like Outlook). Mailman is the "server" piece (like Exchange server). GUI Mailman is not a replacement for Mailman, just an alternative mechanism for interacting wi

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread Mike Lieman
On 9/30/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where I work, the migration to Exchange has been rocky, indeed, and continues > to be. We had an exchange server here all along, but as I understand it, > more and more mail was being handled by exchange servers. As recently as > yesterday

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread rgaber
Encryption is available in MM, simply enter an S at the Transmit now// prompt - Original Message - From: John Leo Zimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:26 am Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? > From: Ruben Safi

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread John Leo Zimmer
From: Ruben Safir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > How do you prevent leakage of private information? Does it have > cryptography build into the mail? > Mailman does not itself support encryption, at least not in the versions that I used in my office ten years ago. Someone else will answer whether there

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread Mike Schrom
AIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? How is the mail being crpted and uncrypted? Ruben On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 15:53 +0530, Usha wrote: Hi We want to connect two VistA implementations acro

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread Ruben Safir
005 17:33:13 0530 > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? > > > Can't it be used to mail messages to Internet mail servers like > > yahoo, etc. which people can access from anywhere? > > > > > > It can, indeed. > If you p

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread John Leo Zimmer
-- Original Message --- From: "Usha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>in To: Sent: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:33:13 0530 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? > Can't it be used to mail messages to Internet mail servers like > yahoo, etc. w

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread Ruben Safir
n't know much about it. > > > > On Friday 30 September 2005 03:11 am, Usha wrote: > > MailMan is used to send the text message. > > > > Regards > > Usha > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ruben Safir" <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread Usha
lMan is used to send the text message. > > > > Regards > > Usha > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ruben Safir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 2:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-memb

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread Nancy Anthracite
ut it. > > On Friday 30 September 2005 03:11 am, Usha wrote: > MailMan is used to send the text message. > > Regards > Usha > > - Original Message - > From: "Ruben Safir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 2:44 AM > Su

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread Mike Schrom
Safir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? How is the mail being crpted and uncrypted? Ruben On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 15:53 +0530, Usha wrote: Hi We want to connect two VistA impl

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread Nancy Anthracite
ubject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? > How is the mail being crpted and uncrypted? > > Ruben > > On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 15:53 +0530, Usha wrote: > > Hi > > > > We want to connect two VistA implementations across the LAN. Both > >

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-30 Thread Usha
MailMan is used to send the text message. Regards Usha - Original Message - From: "Ruben Safir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? > How is the mail being c

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-29 Thread Ruben Safir
How is the mail being crpted and uncrypted? Ruben On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 15:53 +0530, Usha wrote: > Hi > > We want to connect two VistA implementations across the LAN. Both > the implementations should act as mail servers. > 1. How to setup VistA to accept mails coming in at port 25? > 2. How

Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-29 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Take a look and the Mailman management menu. To receive mail, you need to run a listener and a filer. The listener is set up very much like HL7 multi-listeners and newer Broker listeners. You'll probably want to run it under xinetd. An alternative to consider, though, might be to just use sendmail

[Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?

2005-09-29 Thread Usha
Hi   We want to connect two VistA implementations across the LAN. Both the implementations should act as mail servers. 1. How to setup VistA to accept mails coming in at port 25?  2. How to create a job that accepts the requests (incoming mails) that come on port 25, negotiates a port on ac