Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-27 Thread Hunter, Gary
Travelport Product Development Center 6901 S Havana St Centennial, CO  80112 -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:45 AM To: hwg Subject: [H] VPN connection seals

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-27 Thread Brian Weeden
Subject: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN This is very weird. I have a VPN setup and it's been acting weird - when I connect to it using one of the machines on my LAN, that machines effectively drops off the network. It can browse the internet just fine, but none of the other

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-27 Thread Greg Sevart
Of Brian Weeden Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:56 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN That doesn't make any sense - 10. addresses cannot be routed via VPN, same as 192. Both of those address ranges are explicitly defined as private

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-27 Thread Brian Weeden
- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:56 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN That doesn't make any sense - 10. addresses

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-27 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Greg Sevart wrote: They (RC1918 addresses) absolutely can be routed over a VPN. The whole idea is to encapsulate and encrypt packets--the internet routers never see the RFC1918 addresses. Hell, there is nothing keeping them from being routed across the internet as a

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-27 Thread Brian Weeden
That's not the same. Your router us doing NAT and translating your private IP address to a public one. --- Brian Sent from my iPhone On 2010-04-27, at 4:16 PM, Christopher Fisk chr...@mhonline.net wrote: On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Greg Sevart wrote: They (RC1918 addresses) absolutely

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-27 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Brian Weeden wrote: That's not the same. Your router us doing NAT and translating your private IP address to a public one. Not really. It doesn't break RFC because road runner doesn't route any of those IP's outside their network, it is all internal for their

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-27 Thread Brian Weeden
Right, but those addresses still only work on RoadRunner's private network, not the public Internet. At some point your private address need to get translated to a public one, unless the only destinations you communicate with are within the private network. And I for one really dislike

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-27 Thread Bino Gopal
, 27 Apr 2010 11:55:41 -0400 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN That doesn't make any sense - 10. addresses cannot be routed via VPN, same as 192. Both of those address ranges are explicitly defined as private and cannot be routed

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-27 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Brian Weeden wrote: Right, but those addresses still only work on RoadRunner's private network, not the public Internet. Road Runner's private network is a part of my public internet. It goes over the same wires. At some point your private address need to get

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-27 Thread Bino Gopal
? ;) BINO Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:54:34 -0400 From: chr...@mhonline.net To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN snip The short of it is: As long as the 1918 space isn't routed outside of Road Runner's network they can use as much

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-26 Thread maccrawj
Would issuing a route print on the affected machine reveal the result of this? I'm assuming the 0.0.0.0 is catch-all route for non-VPN traffic. On 4/25/2010 1:14 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: Sounds like split tunneling being disabled on the one computer...could that somehow be set on the VPN

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-26 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, maccrawj wrote: Would issuing a route print on the affected machine reveal the result of this? I'm assuming the 0.0.0.0 is catch-all route for non-VPN traffic. Not conclusively. VPN software generally hooks into the TCP stack and depending on the setup may or may not

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-26 Thread Brian Weeden
It seems very unlikely to be a server thing to me. If I connect to the VPN on my main computer, it works just fine and everything on the LAN still works. It's only my other computer that disappears from the LAN when it connects to the VPN. So I've gotta figure that it is a local windows config.

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-26 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Brian Weeden wrote: It seems very unlikely to be a server thing to me. If I connect to the VPN on my main computer, it works just fine and everything on the LAN still works. It's only my other computer that disappears from the LAN when it connects to the VPN. So I've

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-26 Thread Brian Weeden
No client - just a straight VPN setup through Windows to a commercial service. And yes, same login info. I even deleted and re-created the VPN connection using the same settings on both machines. This just got even weirder - I rebooted the machine, and now it works fine. I guess we just chalk

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-26 Thread Gaffer
On Monday 26 April 2010 15:14:56 Brian Weeden wrote: I even deleted and re-created the VPN connection using the same settings on both machines. This just got even weirder - I rebooted the machine, and now it works fine. I guess we just chalk this up to a Windows feature.

[H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-25 Thread Brian Weeden
This is very weird. I have a VPN setup and it's been acting weird - when I connect to it using one of the machines on my LAN, that machines effectively drops off the network. It can browse the internet just fine, but none of the other machines on the LAN can connect to it. Interestingly,

Re: [H] VPN connection seals computer off from LAN

2010-04-25 Thread Bino Gopal
Sounds like split tunneling being disabled on the one computer...could that somehow be set on the VPN server if it's not showing on the client? BINO From: brian.wee...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:45:01 -0400 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] VPN connection seals