Re: [modules] classloader/jit interface

2005-06-24 Thread Ahmed Saad
On 6/25/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So this API is really for the classes Method, Field and Class, rather > than a bigger C API. Does this make it harder for other languages to > use or implement? (I have to admit it's going to take a few to start > thinking in C again...

Re: Harmony site now up http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/

2005-06-17 Thread Ahmed Saad
isn't JIRA enough? On 6/17/05, Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We have bugzilla for Harmony now (thanks dims): > http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=Harmony > >

[sidenotes] Platform of Platforms

2005-06-13 Thread Ahmed Saad
Hi all, Please note that I'm not by any means trying to raise a debate of any kind I'm just trying to brain dump some thoughts about future development platforms. I thought I'd share a "strange" thought that bubbled up in my mind while i was in the metro (aka the underground or the tube). I th

Re: [Legal] Requirements for Committers

2005-06-09 Thread Ahmed Saad
On 6/8/05, Steve Blackburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have never looked at non-free implementations, but I am interested to > know what this means for those of us who have extensive exposure to > implementations such as Kaffe (GPL) or Jikes RVM (CPL). My reading of > it is that I can't work o

Re: [arch] VM Interface

2005-06-07 Thread Ahmed Saad
On 6/7/05, Archie Cobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: [..] > > Because it's possible that Sun finds this aspect of Harmony valuable > > overall, and contributes information to help shape this. > > I highly doubt that will happen (just my opinion though). > > >> Secondly,

Re: [arch] VM Interface

2005-06-06 Thread Ahmed Saad
On 6/6/05, Peter Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The reason being that their customers do not > want to be exposed to differences between rt.jar and GNU Classpath. oh well aren't both implemented according to a well-designed exported API. So how there would be differences that would hurt the c

Re: Linux Jar file execution

2005-06-02 Thread Ahmed Saad
hi Gery, i read that howto a year ago or something but never tired it http://www.linuxhq.com/java.html -ahmed On 6/2/05, Gerry Steele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone got any thoughts on the possibility of making naively executable > jars on Linux? > > This is done on Windows through th

[compiler] JDT batch mode

2005-05-20 Thread Ahmed Saad
hi all.. as i posted before i was writing a wrapper for JDT to feel like "javac" (The TCK requires a JVM to look and feel like the Sun JVM, including the java/javac command lines as noted by Stefano Mazzocchi)... i read the jasper JDTCompiler class in the tomcat source code ... and i was googlin

Re: [arch] VM Candidate : JikesRVM http://jikesrvm.sourceforge.net/

2005-05-20 Thread Ahmed Saad
hi all.. you know i think we all should work to bring the spirit of harmoney to the open source movement in general... for example as a web developer i read about a new php mvc-based framework every couple of days with really nothing new to introduce to the scene so if all *similiar* open so

Re: Developing Harmony

2005-05-19 Thread Ahmed Saad
>Then, if the VM is written in Java it will be compiled to native code using, >for example, gcj? >or it will be compiled to byte code and will be interpreted by itself? >I'm a little bit confused about this topic same goes here On 5/18/05, Juan Leyva Delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Then,

Re: impatient ;)

2005-05-17 Thread Ahmed Saad
>how much value is there in creating another point of entry? it's not just for devs who will be compiling the class library in harmony. it's (or that's what i think) intended to be the "javac" of Hamroy On 5/18/05, Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > just a note... it appears that Ant (

Re: Organizing the Mailing List

2005-05-17 Thread Ahmed Saad
that would be great so people can stop worring about the legal side... and if anyone wants to know about the current legal situation s/he could check that list. On 5/17/05, Stuart Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree. Perhaps though it might be helpful to split into a legal > and techni

Re: Developing Harmony

2005-05-17 Thread Ahmed Saad
ok a question... hope it's not that silly anyways... if you did the JVM in java we would need to compile it (or part of it) to native code... wouldn't that be a problem when porting to other platforms? (sorry guys if it's so silly) On 5/17/05, Ozgur Akan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > JVM in J

Re: Organizing the Mailing List

2005-05-17 Thread Ahmed Saad
can we push some priorities rather than running everywhere.. like 1. decide on a language to use: c, c++, java (did i hear pascal) 2 . an architecture 3. According to this architecture we will divide our efforts. So we can focus on more specific subjects and may be we can do more organized

Re: Gosling on Harmony

2005-05-17 Thread Ahmed Saad
The "clear need" that Magnusson cites is anything but clear to Gosling, who says Sun has received negative response from the enterprise development community regarding the idea of open-source Java." welcome to the matrix, guys ;) On 5/17/05, Tomer Barletz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://

Re: impatient ;)

2005-05-17 Thread Ahmed Saad
i'm working on that too.. i'm using args4j to support javac-like option parsing capabilites... i'm reading the tomcat Jasper source code to learn more about how they did that (the JDTCompiler class)... would be great if you wanna share ideas -ahmed On 5/17/05, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Organizing the Mailing List

2005-05-17 Thread Ahmed Saad
that would be great On 5/17/05, Bryce Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As harmony is just getting started, there is a great deal of good > suggestions, questions and offers for help. Ever since the Slashdot > announcement I personally think that the number of people whom have > joined and offer

Re: Harmony Project Structure Attempt

2005-05-17 Thread Ahmed Saad
"In addition to the JVM and classpath, the standard JDK tools must be implemented for Harmony. To promote reuse and facilitate deployment, we should strive for a single distribution library (called Common Tools Library or CTL in the image below) on top of the OAL from the JVM project." does tha

Re: Java

2005-05-16 Thread Ahmed Saad
hi all... i'm a computer science student located in cairo, egypt with a modest experience in c/c++ (wrote some bsd-style sockets and posix stuff) and designing web applications with java/php i've just read about harmony yesterday on slashdot and i'm just itching to be invloved... and i tota