But does Apache License make JDK out of control? I don't think so:)
在 06-11-13，Geir Magnusson Jr.[EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道：
Jin Mingjian wrote:
GPL is not very compatible with Apache License. So, I guess Sun want
to prevent Harmony from using any codes they owned?! Very Very Very...
No - it was
Jin Mingjian wrote:
But does Apache License make JDK out of control? I don't think so:)
I think that it just means that it helps them limit the number of
proprietary forks of the code.
But I'm not worried about that being harmful no matter what the license
- the market doesn't want broken
Java is still the trademark of Sun:) So I think we can do control
though JCP. BTW, I like GPL as well:) Whatever, this is big step for
Java community.
在 06-11-13，Geir Magnusson Jr.[EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道：
Jin Mingjian wrote:
But does Apache License make JDK out of control? I don't think so:)
I
It's actually Sun's trademark, not the JCPs.
And I don't like the GPL - but that's ok, because there are choices for
people. Apache Harmony or Sun's OpenJDK project.
geir
Jin Mingjian wrote:
Java is still the trademark of Sun:) So I think we can do control
though JCP. BTW, I like GPL as
Mark Reinhold's blog has confirmed this news. He said:
...
Sun is open-sourcing its entire Java stack―ME, SE, and EE―under the
GNU General Public License, version 2.
The license choice―which has taken many by surprise (gotcha!)―is a
giant leap. For more on the big picture, including a link to
Oops！GPL v2? I can hardly believe it!
Does it mean, all codes using Sun's JDK have to take GPL?
Crazy and unbelieveable... However I like GPL ;)
在06-11-13，Jin Mingjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道：
Mark Reinhold's blog has confirmed this news. He said:
...
Sun is open-sourcing its entire Java
GPL is not very compatible with Apache License. So, I guess Sun want
to prevent Harmony from using any codes they owned?! Very Very Very...
在 06-11-13，LvJimmy，Jing[EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道：
Oops！GPL v2? I can hardly believe it!
Does it mean, all codes using Sun's JDK have to take GPL?
Crazy and
LvJimmy，Jing wrote:
Oops！GPL v2? I can hardly believe it!
Why?
Does it mean, all codes using Sun's JDK have to take GPL?
No.
geir
Crazy and unbelieveable... However I like GPL ;)
在06-11-13，Jin Mingjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道：
Mark Reinhold's blog has confirmed this news. He said:
...
Jin Mingjian wrote:
GPL is not very compatible with Apache License. So, I guess Sun want
to prevent Harmony from using any codes they owned?! Very Very Very...
No - it was simply about control.
geir
在 06-11-13，LvJimmy，Jing[EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道：
Oops！GPL v2? I can hardly believe it!
Does
Geir Magnusson Jr. geir at pobox.com writes:
For
example, see the Hibernate clarification to the LGPL, or how MySQL just
basically told the FSF that the GPL *is* compatible with the Apache
License.
Judging from the FOSS exception license text[1], what MySQL did was to
simply
Dalibor Topic wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr. geir at pobox.com writes:
Classically, licensors seem to just make a statement about it.
Yup, authors should know best what terms apply to their works. Practically
speaking, if they went with the GPL, Sun could just say it's not 'viral' for
all the
Ivan Volosyuk wrote:
On 11/10/06, Dalibor Topic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr. geir at pobox.com writes:
Classically, licensors seem to just make a statement about it.
Yup, authors should know best what terms apply to their works.
Practically
speaking, if they went with the
No, and probably by design. If this is true, Sun's Java will fill the
niche market for free-as-in-freedom runtimes, making it very hard for
Harmony (and GNU Classpath) to find an audience. But if all you want is
a free-as-in-freedom runtime, then the outcome is still great!
Regards,
Dave
It's somewhat of a no-op, IMO.
Sun had a very difficult decision to make wrt licensing. They had quite
a few competing forces to deal with such as :
1) How to try maintain whatever 'control' over compatibility they
currently have. (I do think this is just them fighting the last war,
as I
Alexey Petrenko wrote:
Java under GPL? It is probably bad news for Java developers...
As far as I understand you'll can not create non GPL application on
top of GPL Java...
License gurus, is that right?
It's a good question, but remember that Sun will be creating binaries
and probably
David Gilbert wrote:
No, and probably by design. If this is true, Sun's Java will fill the
niche market for free-as-in-freedom runtimes, making it very hard for
Harmony (and GNU Classpath) to find an audience. But if all you want is
a free-as-in-freedom runtime, then the outcome is still
Geir Magnusson Jr. geir at pobox.com writes:
I think that in order to really work for the free-as-in-stallman ;)
community, someone will have to literally fork sun's GPL-ed
implementation, as I'm guessing GPL advocates will want to be able to
contribute / augment / maintain the codebase,
Geir Magnusson Jr. geir at pobox.com writes:
Alexey Petrenko wrote:
Java under GPL? It is probably bad news for Java developers...
As far as I understand you'll can not create non GPL application on
top of GPL Java...
License gurus, is that right?
GPL proponents claim that
Dalibor Topic wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr. geir at pobox.com writes:
I think that in order to really work for the free-as-in-stallman ;)
community, someone will have to literally fork sun's GPL-ed
implementation, as I'm guessing GPL advocates will want to be able to
contribute / augment /
Geir Magnusson Jr. geir at pobox.com writes:
Classically, licensors seem to just make a statement about it.
Yup, authors should know best what terms apply to their works. Practically
speaking, if they went with the GPL, Sun could just say it's not 'viral' for
all the practical purposes and
http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/breakingnews.jhtml;?articleId=193600331
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Best regards,
Andrew Zhang
Is it a good news for Harmony?
On 11/9/06, Andrew Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/breakingnews.jhtml;?articleId=193600331
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Best regards,
Andrew Zhang
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Leo Li
China Software Development Lab, IBM
Java under GPL? It is probably bad news for Java developers...
As far as I understand you'll can not create non GPL application on
top of GPL Java...
License gurus, is that right?
SY, Alexey
2006/11/9, Leo Li [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Is it a good news for Harmony?
On 11/9/06, Andrew Zhang [EMAIL
Leo Li wrote:
Is it a good news for Harmony?
It should be a good news if Sun chooses Apache License, Version 2.0. ;-)
On 11/9/06, Andrew Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/breakingnews.jhtml;?articleId=193600331
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Best regards,
Andrew Zhang
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