Re: Haskell and the NGWS Runtime

2000-08-09 Thread Ketil Malde
"Manuel M. T. Chakravarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A good analysis of were C# fits re Java and C++ is at > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/08/09/1612254&mode=thread Wherein we read: > One new feature that I mentioned already was that of copy-by-value > objects. This seemingly s

Re: Haskell and the NGWS Runtime

2000-08-09 Thread Tyson Dowd
On 09-Aug-2000, Brent Fulgham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hopefully that won't be the case. However, I feel uncomfortable with > the whole .NET/C# situation. Like clockwork, MS releases yet another > new product that they claim will change the world. Meanwhile, there is > no C# implementati

Re: Haskell and the NGWS Runtime

2000-08-09 Thread Manuel M. T. Chakravarty
Theodore Norvell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, > I've been following this discussion, but there are so many new buzzwords > coming out of microsoft that it's a bit confusing for those not > in the know. That's part of the masterplan ;-) > Is there a quick way to summarize the relationships > bet

Re: monadic source of randomness

2000-08-09 Thread Carl R. Witty
Norman Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anybody know of work using monads to encapsulate a source of > random numbers? A quick web search suggested Haskell 98 did not take > this path. I'd be curious for any insights why, or any suggestions > about a `randomness monad'. My guess as t

Re: monadic source of randomness

2000-08-09 Thread Norman Ramsey
> > Does anybody know of work using monads to encapsulate a source of > > random numbers? > Is the global random number generator, in section 17.3 of the Haskell > 98 library report, the sort of thing you're after? No; that appears to embed a generator in the IO monad. Not what I'd hope

monadic source of randomness

2000-08-09 Thread Tom Pledger
Norman Ramsey writes: > Does anybody know of work using monads to encapsulate a source of > random numbers? A quick web search suggested Haskell 98 did not take > this path. I'd be curious for any insights why, or any suggestions > about a `randomness monad'. > > > Norman Hi. Is the

monadic source of randomness

2000-08-09 Thread Norman Ramsey
Does anybody know of work using monads to encapsulate a source of random numbers? A quick web search suggested Haskell 98 did not take this path. I'd be curious for any insights why, or any suggestions about a `randomness monad'. Norman

RE: Haskell and the NGWS Runtime

2000-08-09 Thread Brent Fulgham
> So if all of you could get your weight together and publish an > experts' report on how the platform could be improved so that > your efforts could add value for its customers, that might have > quite some influence if you do it early enough (ask the Pizza > shop what it

Re: Haskell and the NGWS Runtime

2000-08-09 Thread Ketil Malde
"Craig Dickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [Leaving just a few random quotes, snipping lots of good and accurate technical-historical stuff] > Nigel Perry wrote: > > > > NGWS > > > > An older temporary name for .NET. NGWS? Never Goes Wonderfully Sucks? > > I think somebody shot the marketing

Re: The type of zip

2000-08-09 Thread Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:27:14 +0100, Claus Reinke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pisze: > In the language I had in mind, I would expect to be able to "retrieve" the > () from any product, at any position I still prefer the list-like non-associative treatment of tuples. It needs not type system extensions. The

Re: Haskell and the NGWS Runtime

2000-08-09 Thread Claus Reinke
[discussion of benefits and otherwise of .NET, C#, ..] They have definitely managed to attract some attention, haven't they?-) If we put language and other wars aside for the moment, there are a few questions that haven't come up yet, the answers to which would interest me (and seem relevant for

Re: The type of zip

2000-08-09 Thread Claus Reinke
[a while ago] From: Tom Pledger > Claus Reinke writes: > > - one would think that () simply takes its role as a unit, so that > > (),a == a == a,() > > but if we know x::() does that imply that x,a == a ? > > x could be bottom, and the equations for the unit look strict in > > their

Re: Haskell and the NGWS Runtime

2000-08-09 Thread Florian Hars
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk) writes: > Tue, 8 Aug 2000 09:17:15 +0200, Erik Meijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pisze: > > Haskell# > This is what worries me: modifying a bunch of languages to make them > incompatible with the rest of the world How did they say on segfault.org: Micros

Re: Haskell and the NGWS Runtime

2000-08-09 Thread Craig Dickson
Nigel Perry wrote: > > NGWS > > An older temporary name for .NET. NGWS? Never Goes Wonderfully Sucks? > I think somebody shot the marketing guy and replaced him, she then > came up with ".NET" :-) Next Generation Windows Services (I think), as opposed to older generations such as the Win32 APIs

Re: Haskell and the NGWS Runtime

2000-08-09 Thread Nigel Perry
At 11:01 am -0230 9/8/00, Theodore Norvell wrote: >I've been following this discussion, but there are so many new buzzwords >coming out of microsoft that it's a bit confusing for those not >in the know. Is there a quick way to summarize the relationships >between > .NET The name for a whol

Re: Haskell and the NGWS Runtime

2000-08-09 Thread Theodore Norvell
I've been following this discussion, but there are so many new buzzwords coming out of microsoft that it's a bit confusing for those not in the know. Is there a quick way to summarize the relationships between .NET NGWS C# (which I've discovered is intended to be pronounc

Re[2]: [ANNOUNCE] HDoc: a "javadoc for Haskell"

2000-08-09 Thread Armin Groesslinger
On Tue, 08 Aug 2000 16:53:42 -0400 you wrote: > Armin, > > Is HDoc also designed to work with the February 2000 version of Hugs98? > > Will it work under Linux and MacOS as well as under Win 32 (including Windows 2000)? > > --Benjamin L. Russell HDoc should run on any version of Hugs98 as it

Re: Haskell and the NGWS Runtime

2000-08-09 Thread Nigel Perry
At 4:09 pm + 8/8/00, Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk wrote: >Tue, 8 Aug 2000 09:17:15 +0200, Erik Meijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pisze: > >> You hit the nail right on the head wrt to Haskell and .NET. This is >> precisely why I am working on Mondrian, which also goes under the name >> Haskell#, a pur