Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2007-09-27 at 06:56 -0500, tgies wrote: > > #FF > Comic Sans MS > Hello > . Oh my God. Youshouldbegratefulthat thisisnotMathML . &emdash;Phil

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread tgies
On 9/27/07, Daniel Pittman wrote: > One of us must be. Perhaps it was my sarcasm, perhaps I completely > misunderstood your point. To help clear this up: Okay, see, I thought you were being sarcastic the other way around, because I can't imagine why anyone would honestly think that. tgies

Re: Opening tarballs in Mac OS X

2007-09-27 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 27 Sep 2007, at 11:04, Earle Martin wrote: In the old Mac OS, you'd get folders called "Copy of Foo-Bar-0.1" and "Copy 2 of Foo-Bar-0.1", etc. Whoever replaced this behavior with the current braindead one is a goddamn moron. Still does when you copy files. The borkheaded logic is somewhere i

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread Adam Atlas
On 27 Sep 2007, at 14:10, Tony Finch wrote: On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Michael G Schwern wrote: I would like, at this point, to pimp YAML a little. Not at all over-engineered! Also I'm wary of any technology that calls itself "yet another" something. (Yeah yeah, I know YAML officially stand

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread Tony Finch
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Michael G Schwern wrote: > > I would like, at this point, to pimp YAML a little. Not at all over-engineered! Tony. -- f.a.n.finchhttp://dotat.at/ IRISH SEA: SOUTHERLY, BACKING NORTHEASTERLY FOR A TIME, 3 OR 4. SLIGHT OR MODERATE. SHOWERS. MODERATE OR GOOD, OCCASIONALLY P

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On 9/27/07, Tony Finch wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Michael G Schwern wrote: > > > > I would like, at this point, to pimp YAML a little. > > Not at all over-engineered! > Ingy tried to make XML refugees feel at home. -- There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. It is 'dead'. --

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread demerphq
On 9/27/07, Adam Atlas wrote: > On 27 Sep 2007, at 13:33, Sean Conner wrote: > > > So, you're saying you would rather have: > > > > [...] > > > > Ick. Or does it go: > > > > [...] > > > > Ick indeed! > > I think a decent rule of thumb is that attributes are for parameters > that a

Re: Exception trying to run FYM on vista

2007-09-27 Thread Aaron J. Grier
a followup from another group. plenty of hate here. On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 12:22:13PM -, camrex_chi wrote: > I think you will find that files in: > C:\Program Files\\server1\ are not being read as you think. > > Instead it is reading the files located in: > C:\Users\\AppData\Local\VirtualSt

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread Adam Atlas
On 27 Sep 2007, at 13:33, Sean Conner wrote: So, you're saying you would rather have: [...] Ick. Or does it go: [...] Ick indeed! I think a decent rule of thumb is that attributes are for parameters that are not displayed to the user directly, while sub-elements are

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great Daniel Pittman once stated: > "Tony Gies" writes: > > On 9/27/07, Daniel Pittman wrote: > >> ...you were going so well and then, suddenly... > > > > I think one of us is missing something here, because you appear > > actually to be agreeing with me completely? > >

Re: Fuck you Siebel (2)

2007-09-27 Thread Jonathan Katz
It's the same for Oracle 9i and 10g, I'm afraid. We've had to change our security spec/docs so we can "minimize less" by requiring X11 libraries to be installed on our systems. The DBAs want to keep that stuff around, too, for OEM and friends. On 9/27/07, Roger Burton West wrote: > > On Thu, Sep

Re: Fuck you Siebel (2)

2007-09-27 Thread Roger Burton West
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 09:51:11AM -0400, Jonathan Katz wrote: >Requiring a GUI >to do things on a Unix system is a special kind of hate. See also Oracle. Somewhere I still have my "how to install Oracle 8 on a sanely-configured Unix system, and what you'll have to install beforehand and remove a

Fuck you Siebel (2)

2007-09-27 Thread Jonathan Katz
Dear Siebel, When I run the installer on my Solaris box as "./setupsol -console" I expect that the installer remains in a CLI-mode. This does not mean execute the first half of the install process from the command line and then launch a portion of the X-windows installer. I just happened to have E

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread Daniel Pittman
"Tony Gies" writes: > On 9/27/07, Daniel Pittman wrote: >> ...you were going so well and then, suddenly... > > I think one of us is missing something here, because you appear > actually to be agreeing with me completely? One of us must be. Perhaps it was my sarcasm, perhaps I completely misunde

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread demerphq
On 9/27/07, tgies wrote: > On 9/27/07, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > > Erm... you do actually know that this - why do the SGML-derived mark-up > > languages have both elements and attributes and what should be an > > element and what should be an attribute - is an argument (or a religious > > war, wh

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread tgies
On 9/27/07, Daniel Pittman wrote: > ...you were going so well and then, suddenly... I think one of us is missing something here, because you appear actually to be agreeing with me completely? tgies

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread tgies
On 9/27/07, Peter Pentchev wrote: > Erm... you do actually know that this - why do the SGML-derived mark-up > languages have both elements and attributes and what should be an > element and what should be an attribute - is an argument (or a religious > war, whichever way you look at it) that has

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread Daniel Pittman
tgies writes: > Okay, so you're going to use XML for every imaginable thing which you > can possibly contrive a way to use XML for, including uncompressed RGB > raster images, large relational databases, and the syntax for new > procedural imperative programming languages. Fine. Fine. I suppose I

Re: symantec firewall

2007-09-27 Thread Philip Newton
On 9/27/07, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Yes, Windows has introduced the hateful concept of blocking OUTGOING ports to > prevent virus laden machines from spreading their ooze. Or nosy software "phoning home" with juicy data about users' machines. Which is also hateful. Cheers, -- Philip Newton

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread Michael G Schwern
Michael G Schwern wrote: > tgies wrote: >> Attention jerks, >> Okay, so you're going to use XML for every imaginable thing which you >> can possibly contrive a way to use XML for, including uncompressed RGB >> raster images, large relational databases, and the syntax for new >> procedural imperativ

Ruby is pretty advanced, folks

2007-09-27 Thread tgies
Today I found out that certain Ruby environments (I discovered this playing around with XChat's Ruby scripting plugin, as an exercise in determining whether or not this Ruby tripe the kids won't shut up about is any good), when asked to unload a given module/script containing a single static method

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread Michael G Schwern
tgies wrote: > Attention jerks, > Okay, so you're going to use XML for every imaginable thing which you > can possibly contrive a way to use XML for, including uncompressed RGB > raster images, large relational databases, and the syntax for new > procedural imperative programming languages. Fine. F

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 06:56:06AM -0500, tgies wrote: > Attention jerks, > Okay, so you're going to use XML for every imaginable thing which you > can possibly contrive a way to use XML for, including uncompressed RGB > raster images, large relational databases, and the syntax for new > procedural

Re: symantec firewall

2007-09-27 Thread Michael G Schwern
Struan Donald wrote: > I might be a bit old fashioned but I've always thought the point of > firewalls was to stop software on other computers connecting to my > computer (or network but let's not run just yet). > > Symantec seems to find this rather a narrow definition and is keen to > stop softw

XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread tgies
Attention jerks, Okay, so you're going to use XML for every imaginable thing which you can possibly contrive a way to use XML for, including uncompressed RGB raster images, large relational databases, and the syntax for new procedural imperative programming languages. Fine. Fine. I suppose I can't

XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread tgies
Attention jerks, Okay, so you're going to use XML for every imaginable thing which you can possibly contrive a way to use XML for, including uncompressed RGB raster images, large relational databases, and the syntax for new procedural imperative programming languages. Fine. Fine. I suppose I can't

Opening tarballs in Mac OS X

2007-09-27 Thread Earle Martin
You may have a tarball you wish to open, named, say, Foo-Bar-0.1.tar.gz. If you double-click it, it expands to a folder called, predictably, Foo-Bar-0.1. However, if you then double-click it again (without removing the first expanded folder), it produces a folder called... Foo-Bar-0.2. Again? Foo-B

Re: symantec firewall

2007-09-27 Thread Robert Rothenberg
On 26/09/2007, Struan Donald wrote: > > I might be a bit old fashioned but I've always thought the point of > firewalls was to stop software on other computers connecting to my > computer (or network but let's not run just yet). > > Symantec seems to find this rather a narrow definition and is kee

symantec firewall

2007-09-27 Thread Struan Donald
I might be a bit old fashioned but I've always thought the point of firewalls was to stop software on other computers connecting to my computer (or network but let's not run just yet). Symantec seems to find this rather a narrow definition and is keen to stop software on my computer connecting to