Re: kill all Linux weenies

2009-08-15 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great Philip Newton once stated: > 2009/8/15 Peter da Silva : > > The bestest make replacement ever would be one that uses XML and requires a > > different version of Java than the program you're building! > > Except that it doesn't actually use an XML parser but some od

Re: kill all Linux weenies

2009-08-15 Thread Alan Amaya
Oh, I thoguht you meant Ant, which adds its runtime classpath to the compilation classpath you specify making "it compiled once, it'll run anywhere" even less true. On 8/15/09, Philip Newton wrote: > 2009/8/15 Peter da Silva : >> The bestest make replacement ever would be one that uses XML and re

Re: kill all Linux weenies

2009-08-15 Thread Philip Newton
2009/8/15 Peter da Silva : > The bestest make replacement ever would be one that uses XML and requires a > different version of Java than the program you're building! Except that it doesn't actually use an XML parser but some odd XML hack, so if you hand-craft your Makefile.xml, it'll fail eight

Re: kill all Linux weenies

2009-08-15 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 08:24:22AM -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: > I can't wait for battling Mono versions. Is that like kittenwar, but the cutest clippy wins? Nicholas Clark

Re: kill all Linux weenies

2009-08-15 Thread Peter da Silva
On 2009-08-14, at 09:14, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: If only people would actually test even that far that their software configures/builds/tests/installs in *Linux* (as in: at least *try* more than one release of a distro, more than one distro, more than x86 [1]). But I think I will get my polka-d

Re: kill all Linux weenies

2009-08-15 Thread Peter da Silva
On 2009-08-14, at 08:33, Roger Burton West wrote: Ever try to build cdrtools? Make is so boring and old-fashioned, and his replacement is SO much better... The bestest make replacement ever would be one that uses XML and requires a different version of Java than the program you're building!

Re: kill all Linux weenies

2009-08-15 Thread Aaron J. Grier
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:30:22PM +0100, Matthew King wrote: > "Aaron J. Grier" writes: > > the point of autotools is to lower the barriers to write portable > > software. so why is so much autotools software non-portable? > > Much as autotools suck, they are still better than most alternatives

Re: kill all Linux weenies

2009-08-15 Thread demerphq
2009/8/15 Matthew King : "Aaron J. Grier" writes: the point of autotools is to lower the barriers to write portable software.  so why is so much autotools software non-portable? Much as autotools suck, they are still better than most alternatives. Autotools software is non-portable largely b

Re: kill all Linux weenies

2009-08-15 Thread Matthew King
"Aaron J. Grier" writes: > the point of autotools is to lower the barriers to write portable > software. so why is so much autotools software non-portable? Much as autotools suck, they are still better than most alternatives. Autotools software is non-portable largely because people skim throug

Re: kill all Linux weenies

2009-08-15 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Matthew King wrote: > Jarkko Hietaniemi writes: > >>> It works fine on Linux, ship it! >> If only people would actually test even that far that their software >> configures/builds/tests/installs in *Linux* >> (as in: at least *try* more than one release of a distro, more than >> one distro, more