Re: rpmbuild

On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 09:03 +0200, Peter Kruse wrote: > you need a spec file for building rpms, and this is a comment > > # %__build_body > > right? > > wrong. > > Because > http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm-snapshot/ch-rpm-inside.html#S1-RPM-INSIDE-COMMENTS > states: > > Note that macros are exp

Re: Code review every commit (was Re: GNU diff)

On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 09:58 +, Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:33:22AM +1000, Michael G Schwern wrote: > > > And I've used Aegis. I've CHAMPIONED Aegis. This was version control > > DESIGNED around code reviews. You could not make a commit unless it built > > ok, > > add

Re: Subversion Lifetime Achievement Award (was Re: GNU diff)

On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 12:59 +, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:03:10AM +1000, Michael G Schwern wrote: > I give a lightning a talk called "Subversion Lifetime Achievement Award", the > premise of which is that if Subversion hadn't fixed the superficial flaws in > CVS we neve

Re: Subversion Lifetime Achievement Award (was Re: GNU diff)

On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 10:03 +1000, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Of course you don't need branching, merging is hard so you've never branched. > Of course you don't revert, reversions are hard so you don't revert. Of > course you don't make tiny commits, every commit is inflicted on the whole > proj

Re: GNU diff

On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 15:00 +, Matthew King wrote: > GNU diff has an option described thusly: > >-I RE --ignore-matching-lines=RE > Ignore changes whose lines all match RE. > > Fantastic, says you, now I can compare two files and see only if lines > which aren't commen

Re: bash

On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 08:18 +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote: > On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:02:38 +1100, Daniel Pittman > wrote: > > What I find hateful is the "Don't Be Stupid" switch. Which, naturally, the > > developers of bash supplied because you wouldn't want to surprise people by > > changing this m

Re: Hating our product's CLI shell

On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 21:35 +0200, Gert Doering wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 08:32:12PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > > Why instead of the message do they not just, err, quit? > > Programmers should be forced to use their own software. > > That tends to make it much more usable very

Re: Hating our product's CLI shell

On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 12:00 +0200, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: This is because the python prompt is just a REPL and they are just objects that stringify to the text and do their thing when called as a function. The reason license needs to be called as a function is that it's so long it needs

Re: Obligatory hate on the hates-software web archive

On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 13:03 +1200, Mike Beattie wrote: > Time for another moan about the web archive. > > But, the most frustrating thing is that I'm only moaning because I > realised there's been a couple of months since the last post. > > This either means: > 1) Software no longer causes hate >

Re: a three course hate meal

On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 13:05 -0700, Joshua Juran wrote: > On Aug 18, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Martin Ebourne wrote: > > > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 09:59 -0700, Alan Amaya wrote: > >> PS: Maybe if your web page was a PDF it would look exactly right. > > > > What a horrible

Re: a three course hate meal

On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 09:59 -0700, Alan Amaya wrote: > PS: Maybe if your web page was a PDF it would look exactly right. What a horrible thought. Those kind of ideas are best left unspoken, and certainly unimplemented. Cheers, Martin

Re: File Hate (was Re: Gnome focus-follows-mouse)

On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 20:20 -0400, Sean Conner wrote: > 5 text/x-c > 3 text/x-c++ file attempts to identify C versus C++? I'm going to be depressed all day now, maybe there isn't any hope out there after all. Cheers, Martin

Re: Gnome focus-follows-mouse

On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 14:36 +0200, Abigail wrote: > Thinks I often do: > >$ grep 'foo bar' *.[ch] >$ display *.jpg >$ rm *.p[ml] > > Oh, sure, it *could* all be done based on actual content, but while you're > looking at the first file, I'm already done processing the directory. > >

Re: Gnome focus-follows-mouse

On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 23:24 -0700, Joshua Juran wrote: > On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: > > > * Joshua Juran [2009-07-08 05:30]: > >> On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:48 AM, David Cantrell wrote: > >>> Using a menu or selecting text doesn't screw around with > >>> window z-order. > >

Re: Gnome focus-follows-mouse

On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 10:24 +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 06:34:16PM +0100, Martin Ebourne wrote: > > > Hah, it can, but being gnome it would rather you didn't. > > > > You need to gconf-editor it. > > /apps/metacity/general/raise_on_

Re: Gnome focus-follows-mouse

On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 17:48 +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > Cunningly hidden deep in some menu, Gnome has an option to enable > focus-follows-mouse. But their implementation is truly hideous. > > In a decent window mangler, for example, windows only raise when you > click in certain areas of them

Re: MDI

On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 17:59 -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote: > You may be interested in one man's attempt to hack auto-focus into OS X. It > has excruciating detail. > http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/04/settling-osx-focus-follows-mouse-debate.html Excruciating detail for sure, life's too shor

Re: bastard son of Finder (was Re: MDI)

On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 11:38 +, Andy Armstrong wrote: > On 18 Mar 2009, at 10:43, Nicholas Clark wrote: > >> Have you ever actually *used* an OSX-era Mac? All of the usual > >> useful RISC > >> OS features appear to be present and correct. > > > > Except the drag-to-save. > > > Heh. And the

Re: MDI

On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 09:13 -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: > current directory. Rox-filer, however, runs everything from $HOME, so > if you want to be able to run "make" on a MAakefile from rox-filer, > you have to wrap it in a script that takes the command line you give > it and figures out th

Re: bastard son of Finder (was Re: MDI)

On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 11:02 +, Peter Corlett wrote: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:43:50AM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:38:16AM +, Peter Corlett wrote: > [...] > >> Have you ever actually *used* an OSX-era Mac? All of the usual useful > >> RISC OS features appea

Re: MDI

On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 10:38 +, Peter Corlett wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 09:11:13PM +0000, Martin Ebourne wrote: > [...] > > As to the GUI user experience though, I've yet to find any other system > > that even comes close to the productivity and ease of use of RI

Re: MDI

On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 13:43 +, Matthew King wrote: > Tony Finch writes: > > > I cut my GUI teeth on the Archimedes so I think menu bars are hateful > > (e.g. on the Mac they screw up focus-follows-mouse, and on MDI they aren't > > at the top of the screen so require too much long-distance pre

Re: gedit

On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 13:37 -0500, Numien wrote: > Nope, that's a different "Accessibility" hotkey. Tapping shift 5 times > gives you "StickyKeys" where holding down right shift for 8 seconds > gives you "FilterKeys." > Holding down numlock for 5 seconds gives you a third one too, but that > at lea

Re: gedit

On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 10:21 -0800, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Walt Mankowski wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 09:13:34AM -0800, Michael G Schwern wrote: > >> Emacs has this hate, too. I haven't yet found a "close all buffers" > >> function, > >> though at least I can find out quickly what has u

Re: alias rm "rm -i"

On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 17:29 -0800, Phil Pennock wrote: > On 2008-12-31 at 01:16 +0000, Martin Ebourne wrote: > > Yes, that's right, in zsh it's a negative option, and rmstartwait goes > > one even better than that: > > > > RM_STAR_SILENT (-H) > >

Re: alias rm "rm -i"

On Wed, 2008-12-31 at 01:03 +, Smylers wrote: > Gerry Lawrence writes: > > > It gets worse. In newer versions, rm does this behavior by default, > > without being aliased to rm -i. > > > > In this case, you'll need to unset rmstar to get rm to not annoy you. > > rmstar appears to be a shell

Re: Perl version.pm

On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 10:59 +1300, Tony Bowden wrote: > Martin Ebourne wrote: > > Not so unusual really, in the UK postcodes are of the form B27 6EG where > > the first part is one or two letters for the local city, and a number > > for district (numbered in alphabetical orde

Re: Perl version.pm

> On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 11:01 -0800, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Or, ya know, Canadians. Damn Canadians with their alphanumeric postal codes!! > > Here's a "do you mind if I tell you how we [uhh, they] do it in Canada" > moment... > > Canadian Postal Codes are decidedly non-hateful. They avoide

Re: In which we learn that not all characters which look similar are, in fact, the same

On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 14:13 -0500, Adam Atlas wrote: > On a related note, it makes me mad when announcements on my local NPR > are giving some URL with a .org domain name and they feel they have to > spell it out, "dot-O-R-G". I mean, come on. "Org" is about as phonetic > as you can get. Ala

Re: SQL syntax

On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 15:00 -0800, Brian Marshall wrote: > I can't testify for any other database, but mysql lets you use the same > syntax for both operations. > > INSERT INTO `foo` SET `bar` = 'foobar' > UPDATE `foo` SET `bar` = 'wombat' WHERE `bar` = 'foobar' > > I find the VALUES() syntax hor

Re: Subversion and credentials

demerphq wrote: Its not a security thing IMO. Its a peace-of-mind thing. Any syadmin can easily *deliberately* find out a users password in such a system, cleartext or base64 or rot13. But what Base64 does that rot13 barely does which cleartext does not is prevent sysadmins from accidentally see

Re: Subversion and credentials

b...@cpan.org wrote: I say better clear text than rot-13. Unless it has passwords properly encrypted with a master password, and associated session management (which would be nice, but as far as I know no-one has implemented this for svn yet), clear text seems to be the best choice. Firefox and

Re: Subversion and credentials

Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: Which is reasonably doable without the aid of tools, because you can easily inspect these files: Subversion stores *everything*, and that includes the passwords, in pure, untarnished clear text. I say better clear text than rot-13. Unless it has passwords properly

Re: How NOT to write a shared library

On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 13:34 -0800, David King wrote: > On-topic from : > > I'm interested in audio, so I'm looking over the (frankly horrible) > documentation for this new "Pulse Audio" thing, and I see this > function in its shared lib: > >

Re: find . -print0 -name 'foo' | xargs rm

Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 18:35 -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: And then they should have realised that those crazy GNU guys would make the final "-print" optional, so it looked even more like a flag. Because it's not. Yes it was at this point that I started to realize somethin

Re: find . -print0 -name 'foo' | xargs rm

On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 20:20 -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Martin Ebourne wrote: > > One of the rules to save your bacon, just like you should always > > 'select ... from ... where ...' before you 'delete from ... where ...', > > 'find ... -pri

Re: find . -print0 -name 'foo' | xargs rm

On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 16:03 -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Oh that's right, in Unix nobody would ever possibly put a space in a filename > (a hate for later). So I need to separate things with a null byte, ok... > > $ find . -print0 -name '*.txt' | xargs -0 rm > > Whoopsie, everything's

Re: Autoconf and so forth

On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 19:27 -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: > RiscOS? Well, if you want to include dead operating systems I'll add > BeOS and AmigaDOS. Except RISC OS isn't dead. Sure, Acorn is long gone, but some other company bought the rights out and produces their own hardware and updated versi

Re: Dear Perforce: fuck you.

On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 11:01 -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: > On the other hand, I would REALLY like to know why SVN requires half > a dozen extended HTTP commands when pretty much everyone else in the > entire world manages to get by using little more than GET and POST. I > would love to have t

Re: Evince Blocking Sound

On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 22:22 -0400, Chris Devers wrote: > On Aug 15, 2007, at 6:43 PM, David Cantrell wrote: > > > Close, but no cigar. What really is spectacularly hateful is that the > > latest and greatest (and most expensive, of course) version of Acrobat > > can infest documents with sounds a

Re: The many kinds of void

On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 14:23 -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: > On Jul 10, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Martin Ebourne wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 13:17 -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: > >> Which means that this chunk of code isn't C++, it's C. > > > > No it doesn't.

Re: The many kinds of void

On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 13:17 -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: > OK, I looked at GL/gl.h, and lo and behold, the whole thing is enclosed > in > > extern "C" { > ... > } > > Which means that this chunk of code isn't C++, it's C. No it doesn't. Maybe it should but that's different. Cheers, Martin.

Re: Error message too stupid

Yossi Kreinin wrote: There's this "Argument list too long" nonsense. It makes me work in a ~/X directory, because that way my pathnames shorten to an extent enough to execute the build commands of a brain-crippled Makefile. "It is an architecture limitation of UNIX-like operating systems. Ho

Re: STUPID_SOMETHING

Yossi Kreinin wrote: Well, the message was ranked 2.6 by a DEAR_SOMETHING heuristic, and ended up classified as "spam" (5.3) due to the combined efforts of other incomprehensible mail-header heuristics. Is it really that bad to start a message with "Dear Something", and even if it is, is it real

Re: Where "always" means "come hell or high water"

Michael G Schwern wrote: Martin Ebourne wrote: Well, you're right for you I presume, but definitely not right for everyone. Can't we all just hate everyone? Hey, this list is for hating software, not people. Maybe a hates-people list would be too scary. Windows on the deskt

Re: Where "always" means "come hell or high water"

On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 17:19 -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Speaking of tabs, can I say what a horribly bad idea putting a tiny little > "close" button on a tiny little tab is? X-Chat Aqua used to do this but they > sensible took it out. Firefox used to do this but they unsensibly put it back >

Re: RPM: Random Package Manglement

imacat wrote: Well, up2date does not recognize the foreign RPM you downloaded from the MySQL AB website. It only knows the so called "legal" RPMs from the RPM repository server of your distribution. So, it has not idea that the installing "lower-cased" "mysql" 4.1 conflicts with the existi

Re: RPM: Random Package Manglement

Denny wrote: [r...@d01-olg ~]# up2date perl-DBD-MySQL Fetching rpm headers... NameVersionRel -- perl-DBD-MySQL 2.9004 3.

Re: Shell hate (was Re: unzip hate)

Peter da Silva wrote: How many of the people who think shell wildcard expansion is hateful have spent much time using other people's programs on any OS where the command line is the normal user interface and where wildcard expansion is up to the application writers? God it's hateful. "Oh yeh,

Re: Shell hate (was Re: unzip hate)

Smylers wrote: A shell which expands a pattern if it can or otherwise (silently) pretends that you quoted it is hateful. Ever so. Bash 3 introduced the failglob option Hey, bash wasn't first. :) (Don't confuse this with the nullglob option, which (silently) pretends that non-matching pat

dependency insanity

# smart remove fedora-release-notes Loading cache... Updating cache... [100%] Computing transaction... Installing packages (2): Glide3 Glide3-libGL Removing packages (369): GConf2 mysql

Re: Denial of denial of service

On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 08:57 -0600, Peter da Silva wrote: > On Jan 29, 2007, at 6:36 AM, Martin Ebourne wrote: > > I've not had the joy (or maybe hate, who knows?) of programming PDP-11. > > But on the SPARC side, it's a very nice instruction set to program. > > Re

Re: Denial of denial of service

On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 06:21 -0600, Peter da Silva wrote: > > Of course any RISC architecture, even an "Advanced" RISC Machine, is > > way easier to deal with than any CISC one. > > If you'll stipulate that i860, Sparc, and of course IA64 are not RISC > and the PDP-11 was not CISC I'll accept tha

Re: Denial of denial of service

On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 13:34 +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > That's because error handling, while indisputably required, is > hateful. I haven't seen an approach for doing it that doesn't > degenerate into an unmaintainable mess if you even so much as > think about pushing it. Any form of in-band handl

Re: Denial of denial of service

On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 19:39 -0500, Sean Conner wrote: > I don't like throw/catch because it's a form of GOTO, only the target of > the GOTO isn't implicitely specified (it's more of a COMEFROM than a GOTO, > and even then, where you are implicitely coming from isn't stated). Oh come on, if you

Re: Denial of denial of service

On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 14:15 +0200, Yossi Kreinin wrote: > > gcc -S try.cpp -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer > > cat try.s > # tons of labels and such deleted > _Z1gv: > pushl %esi > pushl %ebx > subl$32, %esp > leal12(%esp), %esi > pushl %esi >

Re: Denial of denial of service

On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 13:44 +0200, Yossi Kreinin wrote: > How can a C++ function, no matter if it has try/catch statements or not, be > exception safe without saving a pointer to the bulk of code (destructor > invokations) to call upon stack unwinding? How can you save things at 0 > cycles? Sur

Re: Denial of denial of service

On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 10:04 +0200, Yossi Kreinin wrote: > I don't like throw/catch in C++ because it slows down the entire body of code What are you talking about? There is no reason for there to be any performance impact at all on C++ code which handles exceptions right up until the point where

Re: Possibly PuTTY, possibly something else. It's still hate.

demerphq wrote: If that warning box is modal and is being rendered on the wrong desktop I bet it explains the greyed out close buttons on Simon's putty windows. Modal dialogue boxes are the work of the devil. Every single use of one(*) is inexcusable. The people responsible for making these

Re: Possibly PuTTY, possibly something else. It's still hate.

I'm hating putty at the moment for just hanging my session. I use it to log into a linux machine and port the x display back to the cygwin X server. It just hung the session on me so I just lost a dozen xterms and other stuff besides. This is downright evil. It hung the X server too, or may

Re: lacking authority

On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 19:46 +0200, Yossi Kreinin wrote: > So $A is not X in a place located after A=X. Which may seem reasonable if > you're > used to it. Boy am I happy that I'm not. I couldn't even suspect that. > Seriously, why is this good (as opposed to "why does it work that way")? This o

Re: lacking authority

Richard Clamp wrote: Yours wasn't a question, his wasn't an answer, your "answer" doesn't answer what you think your question was. Stop now. rotfl! Martin.

Re: lacking authority

Yossi Kreinin wrote: Peter da Silva wrote: On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Yossi Kreinin wrote: > setenv A B > echo $A B > env A= echo $A B > env A=X echo $A B This example does not demonstrate what you believe it demonstrates. A second answer which is not an answer. An answer looks lik

Re: lacking authority

Yossi Kreinin wrote: And whether you're using csh or not, you can use "env DISPLAY= bk pull". tcsh disagrees: > setenv A B > echo $A B > env A= echo $A B > env A=X echo $A B That's obviously two completely different things there and not a valid test at all. Please go and read an

Re: lacking authority

Peter da Silva wrote: And whether you're using csh or not, you can use "env DISPLAY= bk pull". If you're doing it a lot, an alias or function seems indicated. Or go into the source and fix it so it doesn't fuck around with $DISPLAY until it's ready to use it for something. Bitkeeper, that we

Re: We know what you need, and we'll push it down your throat.

Yossi Kreinin wrote: I do think BitKeeper would end up in the gutter where it belongs if BitMover didn't make it appealing to Linux fans, exploiting the well-known fundamentalism of people believing in Un*x. For instance, my sysadmin refers to Windows as "Must Die": "This box runs Must Die

Re: Delete a file THAT big? Surely you are joking.

Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 17:52 +0100, Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni wrote: Yossi Kreinin wrote: > * Why didn't rm say they were open? I'm not sure it can know. > * And by which process, so I'd know if it's OK to kill it? As Martin said, lsof(8) and fuser(1) are your friends.

Re: Delete a file THAT big? Surely you are joking.

Yossi Kreinin wrote: This is very sweet of Unix. * Why is it sensible to allow to truncate a file someone has opened? It's entirely reasonable two processes should be able to write to a file. * Especially if you don't allow to remove such files? Oh, you can remove them alright. * Or, mor

Re: Delete a file THAT big? Surely you are joking.

Yossi Kreinin wrote: * Why didn't rm say they were open? rm doesn't know if the files are open, so it can't tell you. * And by which process, so I'd know if it's OK to kill it? lsof is your friend. May need to be run as root depending on what you ask of it. * Why did unmounting the fil

Re: Delete a file THAT big? Surely you are joking.

Yossi Kreinin wrote: Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni wrote: Want to clean up your disk? Look for small files, the ones you can remove. But did you trunc the file before removing it? I removed it using rm. I don't know what you mean. Most likely the files were still open anyway. Did you mak

Re: Invalid Operating System

On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 11:26 +0100, H.Merijn Brand wrote: > No. Very handy. > > my $sth = $dbh->prepare (qq; > select foo, bar > from baz > where duh = ?; > ); > > Now you can cut-n-paste the statement and run in SQL :) > And it reads nice too This is exactly the sort of thing

Re: Invalid Operating System

"H.Merijn Brand" wrote: As long as it takes? How would you think Dutch/Polish/French/Russian/... would like to beat you back with all the `English' verbs in their script that uses variable with native-language names? How long has perl allowed you to localise all the builtins? And even if it d

Re: Invalid Operating System

demerphq wrote: $"="whatever array seperator i choose"; $,="whatever print argument seperator i choose"; That makes me vomit every time. People who don't "use English" should be hit with a rubber mallet for as long as it takes. About the only hateful thing in this I can think of is that

Re: OT [no hate]: entering Unicode chars (was: Gnome's Character Map)

Earle Martin wrote: On 15/12/06, Aaron Crane wrote: Until you upgrade to a newer version; it recently changed to "hold Control+Shift+U while you type the Unicode codepoint". Control-shift-U is also an extremely fucking awkward "shortcut" if there ever was one. It's like playing Twister with

Re: Invalid Operating System

On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 15:29 -0600, Peter da Silva wrote: > tcsh is hateful because csh is hateful as a scripting language. > > As an interactive shell it's no more hateful than any other. That unfortunately is a flawed argument. As long as tcsh exists and people use it, people will write scripts

Re: Invalid Operating System

On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 17:24 +, Andrew McRae wrote: > On 10 Dec 2006, at 09:49, Martin Ebourne wrote: > > (The linux crowd would have been much better off keeping bash for > > scripts and using zsh for interactive, yet another case of NIH > > syndrome.) > > Funny,

Re: Invalid Operating System

On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 10:06 +0100, H.Merijn Brand wrote: > On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 22:31:34 +0000, Martin Ebourne > wrote: > > P.P.P.P.S. Why are you using tcsh anyway? With a choice of perfectly > > usable (if not, unfortunately, actually perfect) shells such as zsh or > >

Re: Invalid Operating System

On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 16:43 +0200, Yossi Kreinin wrote: > P.P.P.S. why is tcsh located in different places in SuSE and RHEL? I'm not > saying that one of the locations is right, just that, um, I don't > /understand/ > the person that saw the stupid program located in some stupid place and said

perforce

How the fuck did this excuse for a version control system manage to integrate (merge for anyone who speaks normally) a file into a symlink where the symlink points to a "file" who's name is the contents of the original file. If that sounds confusing, don't worry, it is. Here's the example.

Re: RubyGems deciding version formats

demerphq wrote: On 11/10/06, Martin Ebourne wrote: CPAN is great as a website, and that's where it should have stayed. The web site came AFTER. Heck, I never liked history anyway. But at least they're headed in the right direction then. Cheers, Martin.

Re: RubyGems deciding version formats

On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 23:47 -0800, Patrick Quinn-Graham wrote: > Uh, you're hating ruby for calling it's package management system > "RubyGems"? That's like hating perl for CPAN or php for whatever it > is php has. Now obviously CPAN is hate-worthy, but not for it's name, > surely. > > And R

Re: RubyGems deciding version formats

On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 20:12 -0600, Luke Kanies wrote: > I currently spend all my time in Ruby, but I fortunately don't have > to deal much with RubyGems. I say fortunately, because, like all > software, it's hate-worthy. I personally think it's a bit more hate- > worthy than it should be, an

Re: yum and its stupid config files

On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 14:29 -0500, Sean Conner wrote: > It was thus said that the Great jrod...@hate.spamportal.net once stated: > > > > I'm _hoping_ this one is really not a software error, there are some > > basic pieces of functionality I expect software to usually get right, > > like transmitt

Re: yum and its stupid config files

jrod...@hate.spamportal.net wrote: If you're serious that the carets (is that what they're called) really land on rRD in your monospaced view of the text, then I'm honestly curious where the screwup is that your display is different from mine. FWIW (really not a lot), on my screen the ^^^ was o

Re: Eclipse

On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 20:10 +, David Cantrell wrote: On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 02:52:18PM +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * David Cantrell [2006-10-29 14:10]: > > No, that was a backslash, a three, a two, and a seven. Please > > try again. If you disagree, then consider my usual invitation > > t

Re: Eclipse

Rebecca Breu wrote: I hate Eclipse. I hate proportional fonts. I hate tabs. Sorry, did you say proportional fonts - in a code editor?? Whatever will satan come up with next?!!! Yours in sheer disbelief, Martin.

Re: Hating up2date

On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 14:31 -0700, Timothy Knox wrote: > Dear up2date, > > PS Burn in hell forever, you hateful pig! Fortunately even Redhat know that up2date is the worst package manager lookalike ever conceived for a non MS platform. Hence they've killed it and written a new thing. At least on f

Re: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox

On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 13:13 -0700, jrod...@hate.spamportal.net wrote: > Not that this excuses firefox in the least, but I've been using privoxy > with firefox successfully for a few years essentially 0 unwanted popups > (and zero unwanted "did you want this popup?" gui things). I've been using it

Re: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox

On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 13:38 -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Martin Ebourne wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 11:47 -0700, Timothy Knox wrote: > >> I know, and that is one possibility. But my real bitch is that while there > >> is > >> an option to "Alway

Re: Reason 3.14159x10^8 to hate firefox

On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 11:47 -0700, Timothy Knox wrote: > I know, and that is one possibility. But my real bitch is that while there is > an option to "Always allow" a website to open a popup, there is NOT one to > "Always deny." Some websites I don't ever wish to permit to open popups, > because >

Re: iTunes

On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 08:46 +0930, Bill Page wrote: > I think anyone who uses a lossless codec gets what they deserve. Don't > be surprised if it begins to rain toads. You seem to be upside-down. Cheers, Martin.

Re: iTunes on Windows

On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 00:05 +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * Martin Ebourne [2006-10-04 00:00]: > > The filesystem is an entirely excellent way to organise music. > > So long as it's all laid out consistently, which is the > > software's job. > > Until that one

Re: iTunes on Windows

On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 23:51 +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > The filesystem is not a good way to organise music. For small > libraries it's OK. To navigate big ones, it blows. The filesystem is an entirely excellent way to organise music. So long as it's all laid out consistently, which is the softwar

Re: You know what I hate more than I hate software?

On Fri, 2006-08-25 at 22:41 -0700, Matthew Navarre wrote: > Even better: Linux boxes* that randomly decide that no, really, I've > never seen this "mouse" of which you speak and proceed to start some > loathsome, hateful piece of "hardware detection" software on *every* > subsequent boot unti

Re: Hating it already

On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 16:21 +0200, Juerd wrote: > glabels can use Evolution's address book. Nice, finally some > integration. Unfortunately, Evolution won't be anything less than a > complete PIM. You can't tell it to hide the unused portions, so this > cannot work. Yes, it's a shame that. It's a

Re: [OT] Mac recommendations for minimising hate

On Sat, 2006-08-19 at 19:02 +0200, Phil Pennock wrote: > Wotcher, > > Sorry for the lack of hate here, but having read various rants about > Macs, I'm hoping for some advise on how to minimise future hate. Don't turn it on. No, really. To completely minimise all software hate: 1. Throw the comp

Re: finder making aliases

Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni wrote: Quoting Nicholas Clark : So, I have a folder on a shared drive that I wish to have aliased on my desktop. How do I do this? Well, Finder offers me "make alias". But that IIRC, you can do by dragging with the option and command modifiers (at least, that was th

Re: tabs in source code

On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 08:04 -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: > I used to remove the quoted text as well. Makes the thread look better > at http://viking.hates-software.com/2006/06/19/5d56f668.html . The blog software could and should do that for itself. Software that makes users contort to it is hate

Re: tabs in source code

On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 16:57 -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: > > > And if tabs are variable, you can't know the length of a line, therefore > > you can't break them before 80 characters. > > Tabs Aren't Variable. As much as I wish you were right there, and as much as I agree with you in theory, there

Re: tabs in source code

On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 16:54 -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: > > > Tabs/spaces whatever. There's not a single tool that will misformat code > > only using spaces, whereas the majority of tools will need to be set up > > to show tabs correctly, Back to the email hate. People who loose attributions comp

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