Re: Syncing (was Re: DRM can bite my ass)

2006-12-05 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 10:02:12AM -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > > it's "rights management." > > The first thing to understand about the Orwellian term > "rights management" is that it is not about your rights. In Soviet Russia you have rights. In the USA rights have you. Nicholas Clark

Re: Syncing (was Re: DRM can bite my ass)

2006-12-05 Thread Peter da Silva
From what I remember, the default is to *not* automatically synchronise when you plug the thing in, but to synchronise if you run iTunes when the thing is plugged in. So I rather think that someone told the machine to do that. Unfortunately the default is _also_ to run iTunes when you plug it i

Re: Syncing (was Re: DRM can bite my ass)

2006-12-05 Thread Peter da Silva
I'm not sure how anything that's actually syncing, rather than installing/copying/whatever, could behave differently. If you use a conduit on the Palm that does syncing (i.e., _not_ "install", which is one-way) it absolutely will delete a record from your Palm if you delete it on the computer,

Re: Syncing (was Re: DRM can bite my ass)

2006-12-05 Thread Patrick Quinn-Graham
On 5-Dec-06, at 3:35 AM, sabrina downard wrote: the really sad thing is that, all this notwithstanding, i'm still pathetic enough to want one of the new tiny clippy shuffles. there's a word for people like me. Having never had an original shuffle, I don't know if this is different, and ma

Re: Syncing (was Re: DRM can bite my ass)

2006-12-05 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> it's "rights management." The first thing to understand about the Orwellian term "rights management" is that it is not about your rights.

Re: Syncing (was Re: DRM can bite my ass)

2006-12-05 Thread David Cantrell
le would get removed from the iPod. > it's "rights management." i first enountered the data deletion (and > posted the original post in the "DRM can bite my ass" thread) when i > was just trying to recharge my shuffle, and plugged it into a handy > USB port one

Re: Syncing (was Re: DRM can bite my ass)

2006-12-05 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 5 Dec 2006, at 13:24, Nik Clayton wrote: Robert Rothenberg wrote: On 05/12/06 04:27 Peter da Silva wrote: "iTunes shouldn't be removing files from my iPod" If you really do want it to sync your music collection to your iPod, and you plug your iPod in when its idea of your music collecti

Re: Syncing (was Re: DRM can bite my ass)

2006-12-05 Thread Nik Clayton
Robert Rothenberg wrote: On 05/12/06 04:27 Peter da Silva wrote: "iTunes shouldn't be removing files from my iPod" If you really do want it to sync your music collection to your iPod, and you plug your iPod in when its idea of your music collection is wrong, then it's going to do the wrong thi

Re: Syncing (was Re: DRM can bite my ass)

2006-12-05 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* sabrina downard [2006-12-05 12:40]: > the really sad thing is that, all this notwithstanding, i'm > still pathetic enough to want one of the new tiny clippy > shuffles. there's a word for people like me. > > b, > --s. Heh. I have an old shuffle, and I think it's actually about the leas

Re: Syncing (was Re: DRM can bite my ass)

2006-12-05 Thread sabrina downard
or AAC, but it's "rights management." i first enountered the data deletion (and posted the original post in the "DRM can bite my ass" thread) when i was just trying to recharge my shuffle, and plugged it into a handy USB port one day, not expecting that it was going to d

Re: Syncing (was Re: DRM can bite my ass)

2006-12-05 Thread Robert Rothenberg
On 05/12/06 10:41 Matt McLeod wrote: > On 12/5/06, Robert Rothenberg wrote: >> On 05/12/06 04:27 Peter da Silva wrote: >> > This isn't anything to do with DRM, it's all about syncing. >> >> I disagree. ... >> >> When I use rsync, by default it does not delete unless given the option. > > You miss

Re: Syncing (was Re: DRM can bite my ass)

2006-12-05 Thread Matt McLeod
On 12/5/06, Robert Rothenberg wrote: On 05/12/06 04:27 Peter da Silva wrote: > This isn't anything to do with DRM, it's all about syncing. I disagree. When I used to use a Palm pilot years ago, the default configuration was not to delete anything (or to ask before deleting things). When I use

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-12-05 Thread Earle Martin
On 04/12/06, sabrina downard wrote: stupid iTunes. stupid iPod. stupid Apple. iTunes is the most hateful sack of shit that I have ever had the misfortune and displeasure to encounter on a semi-regular basis. -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.org/net/earlemartin/

Syncing (was Re: DRM can bite my ass)

2006-12-05 Thread Robert Rothenberg
On 05/12/06 04:27 Peter da Silva wrote: > "iTunes shouldn't be removing files from my iPod" > > If you really do want it to sync your music collection to your iPod, and > you plug your iPod in when its idea of your music collection is wrong, then > it's going to do the wrong thing whether your fi

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-12-05 Thread Peter da Silva
> no, i was saying that iTunes shouldn't be removing files from my iPod This is where you stop. Or it's where I stop, anyway. "iTunes shouldn't be removing files from my iPod" If you really do want it to sync your music collection to your iPod, and you plug your iPod in when its idea of your mus

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-12-05 Thread Bill Page
On 12/5/06, sabrina downard wrote: > so what you're saying is that you didn't use the tools provided, or > pay attention to the backup you were trying to use? no, i was saying that iTunes shouldn't be removing files from my iPod without any iWarning based on an iFaulty assumption, but perhaps i

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-12-04 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 01:57:34AM +1030, Bill Page wrote: > On 12/4/06, sabrina downard wrote: > > [Apple hate] > so what you're saying is that you didn't use the tools provided Would those be the Apple tools that "forget" to copy some things and so are to all intents and purposes useless? My t

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-12-04 Thread sabrina downard
so what you're saying is that you didn't use the tools provided, or pay attention to the backup you were trying to use? no, i was saying that iTunes shouldn't be removing files from my iPod without any iWarning based on an iFaulty assumption, but perhaps i should have taken more time to make tha

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-12-04 Thread jrodman
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 01:57:34AM +1030, Bill Page wrote: > so what you're saying is that you didn't use the tools provided, or > pay attention to the backup you were trying to use? Unsubscribe.

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-12-04 Thread Bill Page
so what you're saying is that you didn't use the tools provided, or pay attention to the backup you were trying to use? this doesn't sound like software hate to me, this sounds like self-love. On 12/4/06, sabrina downard wrote: On 7/10/06, sabrina downard wrote: > Dear Apple: [snip] > Okay.

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-12-04 Thread sabrina downard
On 7/10/06, sabrina downard wrote: Dear Apple: [snip] Okay. Whatever. I have that album on this laptop and I don't know why you're whinging about it anyways, as I didn't ask you to "copy" anything. 'Cos it was already *there* and all. But whatever, I didn't want to listen to that band at t

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-07-12 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Earle Martin wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 10:29:31AM -0500, sabrina downard wrote: >> But I've got to tell you, this iPod destructive mind-meld "link" to a >> specific computer, or whatever the hell it is, is just fucking stupid. > > What the fuck happened to that Apple that used to produce no

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-07-12 Thread Simon Wistow
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 02:27:32PM +0300, Jarkko Hietaniemi said: > I guess they fired those developers because they had to pay the salaries > of the Brushed Metal Clan. http://daringfireball.net/2005/09/anthropomorphized http://daringfireball.net/2006/01/brushed_metal

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-07-12 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Earle Martin wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 10:29:31AM -0500, sabrina downard wrote: >> But I've got to tell you, this iPod destructive mind-meld "link" to a >> specific computer, or whatever the hell it is, is just fucking stupid. > > What the fuck happened to that Apple that used to produce no

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-07-11 Thread Bill Page
i honestly have no idea what you lot are complaining about - i have had no troubles copying music from an ipod to a computer and back, all around the place my ipod is a filthy whore, let me tell you well, with the aid of "super-lube" senuti to copy stuff off an ipod On 7/11/06, Earle Martin wrot

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-07-11 Thread Earle Martin
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 10:29:31AM -0500, sabrina downard wrote: > But I've got to tell you, this iPod destructive mind-meld "link" to a > specific computer, or whatever the hell it is, is just fucking stupid. What the fuck happened to that Apple that used to produce non-insane software? You know,

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-07-11 Thread Peter da Silva
> What I'm assuming happened here is that my iPod, named 'wee' (what? > it *is*!), had some sort of sympathetic bond with my old laptop, > "shiny." It liked shiny. It was evidently involved in a fiercely > monogamous relationship with shiny. That's the problem... you're assuming that your iPod

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-07-11 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 10:50:57AM -0500, sabrina downard wrote: > >So if you want to pay money to get broken features unbroken, it's > >possible that you can deal with this soon. > is it too early in the morning to start drinking? Never (says he, the wrong side of some whisky. and beer, and wine)

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-07-10 Thread sabrina downard
So if you want to pay money to get broken features unbroken, it's possible that you can deal with this soon. is it too early in the morning to start drinking? (if it is, it's probably software's fault) --s.

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-07-10 Thread Simon Wistow
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 10:50:57AM -0500, sabrina downard said: > is it too early in the morning to start drinking? The sun is over the yard arm somewhere in the world, I say go for it.

Re: DRM can bite my ass

2006-07-10 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2006-07-10 at 10:29 -0500, sabrina downard wrote: > But I've got to tell you, this iPod destructive mind-meld "link" to a > specific computer, or whatever the hell it is, is just fucking stupid. I read The Register (I'm not proud of it and yes I need help); I believe that they recently had an a

DRM can bite my ass

2006-07-10 Thread sabrina downard
Dear Apple: As I'm sure you know, I've been a pretty unrepentant Mac fangirl for a while. I like shiny things. I like your laptops. I like your operating system (and I used to like your old one, too). I like my transparent terminal windows. I like not having to run OpenOffice just to read th