Re: Distro hate (was Re: How do I hate CPAN, let me count the ways...)

On 2007-05-06 at 23:03 +0100, Tony Finch wrote: > On Sun, 6 May 2007, Phil Pennock wrote: > > % pkg_info -xI bsdpan > > Obviously I knew about that :-) Heh. :-D Okay, I'm wondering why, on hates-software, I defended the software by stripping a line of output. More accurately, the first two lin

Re: Distro hate (was Re: How do I hate CPAN, let me count the ways...)

On Sun, 6 May 2007, Phil Pennock wrote: > > % pkg_info -xI bsdpan Obviously I knew about that :-) Tony. -- f.a.n.finchhttp://dotat.at/ FAIR ISLE: SOUTHWEST VEERING WEST 6 TO GALE 8, OCCASIONALLY SEVERE GALE 9 AT FIRST. ROUGH OR VERY ROUGH. RAIN OR SQUALLY SHOWERS. MODERATE OR GOOD.

Re: Distro hate (was Re: How do I hate CPAN, let me count the ways...)

On 2007-05-06 at 18:02 +0100, Tony Finch wrote: > Obviously the distro should hook into CPAN so that when you install a > module it gets automatically turned into a package that can be managed via > the usual deinstall/upgrade/etc. processes. % pkg_info -xI bsdpan bsdpan-CPAN-1.9101 CPAN - query,

Re: Distro hate (was Re: How do I hate CPAN, let me count the ways...)

* Robert Rothenberg [2007-05-06 21:00]: > No, package managers need a way to query the version of what is > installed (and where), rather than what is registered in their > systems. I think the FreeBSD ports work that way, no? Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis //

Re: Distro hate (was Re: How do I hate CPAN, let me count the ways...)

On 06/05/07 18:02 Tony Finch wrote: > On Sat, 5 May 2007, Robert Rothenberg wrote: >> Some distros have a hard time with you installing by compiling from the >> source. > > Obviously the distro should hook into CPAN so that when you install a > module it gets automatically turned into a package th

Re: Distro hate (was Re: How do I hate CPAN, let me count the ways...)

On Sat, 5 May 2007, Phil Pennock wrote: > > I've yet to find a system which makes me _happy_ about its package > management, only those which provide the least pain and suffering. I need to read more about Nix which claims to be a "purely functional" package manager. The thi

Re: Distro hate (was Re: How do I hate CPAN, let me count the ways...)

On Sat, 5 May 2007, Robert Rothenberg wrote: > > Some distros have a hard time with you installing by compiling from the > source. Obviously the distro should hook into CPAN so that when you install a module it gets automatically turned into a package that can be managed via the usual deinstall/up

Re: Distro hate (was Re: How do I hate CPAN, let me count the ways...)

On 2007-05-05 at 17:20 -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: > This is one of the advantages to the BSD core+ports system and the way it > separates the core from add-on packages. It's got its own hatefulness, of > course, but I'd rather have some redundant and normally unused stuff in core > even wi

Re: Distro hate (was Re: How do I hate CPAN, let me count the ways...)

On May 5, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Robert Rothenberg wrote: Some distros have a hard time with you installing by compiling from the source. Actually, they work fine until there's an update or upgrade. Then it gets confused by a newer version of some program (it could be something as minor as an u

Distro hate (was Re: How do I hate CPAN, let me count the ways...)

On 05/05/07 07:53 A. Pagaltzis wrote: > I consider that a distro hate. If you build Perl from source, > then yes it is reasonable for CPAN.pm to ask a bunch of > questions. But if you're installing a package, then your vendor > should know a set of reasonable defaults to supply and should > damn w