Outlook Appointment Requests

Outlook is sending appointment requests in a way which makes them invisible to me, by lying in the e-mail messages it creates. It's sending a multipart/alternative message, with three parts: text/plain (containing the message the sender type), text/html (ditto, with superfluous mark-up), and

Re: Outlook J

On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:39:11 +, Roger Burton West wrote: > (Why do people install IncrediMail?) Oooo.. pretty! Shiny! OMIGODICANHAVEABACKGROUNDTHATLOOKSLIKE*PAPER*. IN AN EMAIL! Must have! Oooo.. ANIMATIONS! OMIGO...*POP*[0] [0]: Sadly, that doesn't actually happen. it's more like "Hey, did y

Re: Outlook J

On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 12:39:11PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 04:34:25AM -0800, Joshua Juran wrote: > >When did deliberate data loss become fashionable? > When plain text became "that nasty thing we have to put in because of > disabled people and those who aren't usin

Re: Outlook J

Joshua Juran writes: iChat does the same thing -- it forcibly converts strings of innocent ASCII characters into smiley images. I quickly learned to write "(a)" and "(b)" instead of "(A)" and "(B)", because "B)" got helpfully replaced by a smiley face wearing shades. That's risky too if you c

Re: Outlook J

On Mar 4, 2011, at 1:33 AM, Smylers wrote: All this for no reason: Outlook could simply use the Unicode '☺', which does the right thing regardless of font. Or, if the user simply typed the three Ascii characters ':-)' in the first place, Outlook could perhaps DO NOTH

Re: Outlook J

On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 04:34:25AM -0800, Joshua Juran wrote: >When did deliberate data loss become fashionable? When plain text became "that nasty thing we have to put in because of disabled people and those who aren't using Our Wonderful Software". (Why do people install IncrediMail?) R

Outlook J

It took me way too long to work out why e-mails from Outlook-using colleagues often had a loan 'J' at the end of them. It seems that there's some easy way for users to indicate they want a smiley face in a message, possibly simply typing ':-)'. And Outlook helpfully[*1

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 03:52:57PM -0500, Chris Devers wrote: > How much of this stuff is, in practice, an actual problem for a system > that is, as all systems should, synchronizing the clock over NTP? internet access always being 100% available when system are rebooting... -- Aaron J. Grier

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

On 2010.11.9 8:24 PM, Joshua Juran wrote: > On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: > >> On 2010.11.9 9:31 AM, Joshua Juran wrote: >>> Dual-booting OS 9 and OS X demonstrates OS X using local time as well. I >>> don't know what happens on Macs that can't boot classic Mac OS. >> >> I

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

On 2010-11-09, at 09:53, david.mackint...@xdroop.com wrote: > To: Dave Mackintosh > Cc: Larry; Curly; m...@3stoogesenterprises.local > Subject: RE: whos on 1st? > > In this case, my, Larry, and Curly's addresses are hidden here > because my outlook has them listed in one

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

On Tue, 9 Nov 2010, Alan Amaya wrote: > Is there an RFC that says whether email times are allowed to include > leap seconds, Yes. > because otherwise you might be misled into thinking the message was sent > tomorrow when right thinking clocks everywhere know it's still today. In practice you ha

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: On 2010.11.9 9:31 AM, Joshua Juran wrote: Dual-booting OS 9 and OS X demonstrates OS X using local time as well. I don't know what happens on Macs that can't boot classic Mac OS. I can assure you OS X is using a UTC clock. Of course i

Local system time (was Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate)

On 2010.11.9 12:52 PM, Chris Devers wrote: > How much of this stuff is, in practice, an actual problem for a system that > is, as all systems should, synchronizing the clock over NTP? In the time between boot and the network coming up and sync you will get offset timestamps. Log messages, file mo

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

It's a desktop, it's closer to a VCR or a microwave than a mail server. If it was properly implemented it would store filesystem timestamps in UTC by converting from the system clock using the timezone. Is there an RFC that says whether email times are allowed to include leap seconds, because oth

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

Maybe I'm stupid, but I just use network time & be done with it. I recently installed Ubuntu in VMware on my Macbook, and the setup process asked if the hardware clock is set to local or UTC time. I had no idea (a) what the physical hardware clock on a Mac is set to (no GUI or plist or sysctl or o

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

ooo often. OE users just don't learn > From: Matt McUser [mailto:mmu...@someplace.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:08 AM > To: Dave Mackintosh > Cc: Larry; Curly; m...@3stoogesenterprises.local > Subject: RE: whos on 1st? > > In this case, my, Larry, and Curly'

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

On 2010.11.9 9:31 AM, Joshua Juran wrote: > Dual-booting OS 9 and OS X demonstrates OS X using local time as well. I > don't know what happens on Macs that can't boot classic Mac OS. I can assure you OS X is using a UTC clock. What you're likely seeing is OS 9 setting the system clock to localti

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

On 9 November 2010 16:53, wrote: > You know how when you forward or reply Ah.. Ive heard enough There seems to be a law of the universe that all email clients are in some way or another hateful, the hate can merely be moved around, not completely eliminated. Yves -- perl -Mre=debug -e "/j

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 04:45:07PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: > On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 04:26:57PM +, Tony Finch wrote: > > >Who needs > >timezones anyway? > > Doesn't MS still set the machine's clock to localtime - and thus change > it twice a year in most places - rather than simply le

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 09:31:52AM -0800, Joshua Juran wrote: > Dual-booting OS 9 and OS X demonstrates OS X using local time as > well. I don't know what happens on Macs that can't boot classic Mac > OS. There are of course many hateful things about OS X, but it does generally keep its internal

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

On Nov 9, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Roger Burton West wrote: On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 04:26:57PM +, Tony Finch wrote: Who needs timezones anyway? Doesn't MS still set the machine's clock to localtime - and thus change it twice a year in most places - rather than simply leaving it on gmtime and

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

On Tue, 9 Nov 2010, Roger Burton West wrote: > > Doesn't MS still set the machine's clock to localtime - and thus change > it twice a year in most places - rather than simply leaving it on > gmtime and converting in-OS (i.e. the Unix or "correct" way)? Dunno. One of my colleagues has a new Exchan

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 04:26:57PM +, Tony Finch wrote: >Who needs >timezones anyway? Doesn't MS still set the machine's clock to localtime - and thus change it twice a year in most places - rather than simply leaving it on gmtime and converting in-OS (i.e. the Unix or "correct" way)? (I sti

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

> AFAIK gmail ignores dots in local parts, so you own both. > Verified. I just logged in as fr.ioux -- fREW Schmidt http://blog.afoolishmanifesto.com

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

On Tue, 9 Nov 2010, Jonathan J. M. Katz wrote: > > gmail can't consistently tell the difference between > jonathan.k...@gmail.com and jonathank...@gmail.com. > (I own the former, not the latter.) AFAIK gmail ignores dots in local parts, so you own both. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finchhttp://dotat

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Joshua Rodman wrote: And then of course, the client autocompletes names as the primary behavior when setting up receipients, so each Larry is always receiving email intended for the others.  If they're anything like me, they just delete them. I have a mildly co

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 05:00:09PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 16:53, wrote: > > In this case, my, Larry, and Curly's addresses are hidden here > > because my outlook has them listed in one of my Address books (or the > > GAL) with a "Disp

Re: Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

place.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:08 AM To: Dave Mackintosh Cc: Larry; Curly; m...@3stoogesenterprises.local Subject: RE: whos on 1st? In this case, my, Larry, and Curly's addresses are hidden here because my outlook has them listed in one of my Address books (or the GAL) with

Outlook Forwarded Email Hate

010 10:08 AM To: Dave Mackintosh Cc: Larry; Curly; m...@3stoogesenterprises.local Subject: RE: whos on 1st? In this case, my, Larry, and Curly's addresses are hidden here because my outlook has them listed in one of my Address books (or the GAL) with a "Display As" value. ...whi

Re: Outlook is driving me INSANE!

On 2008-02-11 at 13:06 -0500, David Mackintosh wrote: > As a result of this (and other) nonsense, I've installed a > PDF-printer as the default device and now print to _that_ instead. > Doing this also has the pleasant side effect of making information > sent to collegues much less likely to be "a

Re: Outlook is driving me INSANE!

Dear David, I stopped reading after the first word in the subject. Anything to follow it would be redundant on this list. Your mailing list's one-trick pony, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis //

Re: Outlook is driving me INSANE!

st applications interpret the "Print" toolbar button as "don't ask for any options, just dump the current document to the default printer with the default options". I honestly don't know if Outlook is included in this category or not, I've learned to be wary of th

Re: Outlook is driving me INSANE!

On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 7:06 PM, David Mackintosh wrote: > Let's pretend that this kick in the nuts named "Outlook" is entirely > mandatory. > > Let's further pretend that you have an email which you want to print > out so that it can be used to beat some

Outlook is driving me INSANE!

Let's pretend that this kick in the nuts named "Outlook" is entirely mandatory. Let's further pretend that you have an email which you want to print out so that it can be used to beat someone over the head with. So you select the email, and click "Print", right? W

Re: Outlook Web Access Calendar

On 7/25/06, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: >> itself would run there. > > The scary scary thing for all you open source fanboys out there is that > the set of technologies that became the proto-AJAX were invented for > Outlook Web Access some six years ago DHTML? That'

Re: Outlook Web Access Calendar

>> itself would run there. > > The scary scary thing for all you open source fanboys out there is that > the set of technologies that became the proto-AJAX were invented for > Outlook Web Access some six years ago DHTML? That's more like nine years... > /J\ > >

Re: Outlook Web Access Calendar

On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 16:30, Smylers wrote: > Outlook Web Access[*0] is so easy hate, but here's the one that's just > bitten me. I'm not even going to start > [*0] Actually I only have experience of the non-Internet-Explorer > version. I believe that

Outlook Web Access Calendar

Outlook Web Access[*0] is so easy hate, but here's the one that's just bitten me. 'New Appointment' has, quite reasonably, 'Start time' and 'End time', each with drop-down fields for day, month, and year, in that order. Both default to today. I set 'S

Re: Outlook

A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Jarkko Hietaniemi [2006-06-26 18:05]: [snip] address books but they are live in one pile of shit called a PST). Pile of ShiT - now it all finally makes sense! Maybe "Pile of Steamy Turds"? Regards, Oh how that does my soul good. Thank you for that -- In Reach T

Re: Outlook

* Jarkko Hietaniemi [2006-06-26 18:05]: > Robert G. Werner wrote: > > Don't get me started on Outlook. > > > > Who has ever heard of having two place in one file to store > > your fucking address book (and they really are two separate > > address books

Re: Outlook

Robert G. Werner wrote: > Guy Thornley wrote: > [snip] > >> Outlook hate deserves a whole hate-thread of its own, I'm sure :) Even from >> us types that don't use it, but occasionally attempt to communicate with >> those that do.. >> >> - Guy >

Outlook (was: Re: tabs in source code)

Guy Thornley wrote: [snip] > Outlook hate deserves a whole hate-thread of its own, I'm sure :) Even from > us types that don't use it, but occasionally attempt to communicate with > those that do.. > > - Guy Don't get me started on Outlook. Who has ever heard of h