Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-17 Thread Ming Yeow Ng
Honestly I agree with Mike 100%. The right thing for Heroku to do is to have their economics be more transparent. As fellow developers, i do not think we expect "100%" service, esp if we are running a single dyno and a toy app. But personally, (i spend 2K on amazon a month), and i need to feel co

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-17 Thread Mike
Does anyone have experience with this? It'd be really interesting to find out what you get and for what ballpark figure. On Sep 17, 8:13 am, Chap wrote: > They offer a paid support plan with guaranteed response times: > "We offer ticket-based support for all Heroku users through our > zendesk ti

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-17 Thread Mike
Wow, sounds like the level of support you're getting for your app is in a whole different world than us mortals with sub-1000 dollar hosting expenditures. Reached out on IM to resolve issues? I couldn't even get them to assign a support person to my app that was down. Well, in some sense that is r

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-17 Thread Chap
They offer a paid support plan with guaranteed response times: "We offer ticket-based support for all Heroku users through our zendesk ticket system, Mon-Fri from 6am-6pm PST. If you need specific response times and SLAs, we offer custom packages. Please contact us for more info." >From http://doc

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-17 Thread Richard Conroy
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:10 AM, John Beynon wrote: > It would be nice if Heroku at least offered paid support or at least > made their it clear on their website that this is available - much > like Engine Yard. We're seriously considering migrating to EY from > Heroku at the moment because prima

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-17 Thread John Beynon
It would be nice if Heroku at least offered paid support or at least made their it clear on their website that this is available - much like Engine Yard. We're seriously considering migrating to EY from Heroku at the moment because primarily of the support that is available from EY when it's needed

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-17 Thread Daniele
Same thoughts here. The support request is not as fast as other providers I use. I didn't have critical issue (except for a problem to a primary key of the database, not set correctly during a push, that I solved myself) but I'm a little scared about the fact to stay offline with a slow support res

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-17 Thread Josh Coffman
FWIW, I've done my share of enterprisey stuff. Big name stuff, not in ruby or rails. I am moving more things over to Rails/Ruby on Heroku as I get time to do it. Try dealing with a web farm to host your app, load balancer, data bottlenecks, etc. Then add mysterious machine crashes due to memory is

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-16 Thread Michael Dwan
I run a few big apps on Heroku that average 2-3 million requests a day with a peak around 30M requests a day. We've used 100 dynos + 8 EC2 machines as part of our system, so I'd call it a "real" app. Thus far we havent had any issues with Heroku's performance OR support. Compared to some other ven

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-16 Thread Michael Dwan
I run a few big apps on Heroku that average 2-3 million requests a day with a peak around 30M requests a day. We've used 100 dynos + 8 EC2 machines as part of our system, so I'd call it a "real" app. Thus far we havent had any issues with Heroku's performance OR support. Compared to some other ven

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-16 Thread jmay
I feel entirely comfortable putting "serious" applications on Heroku. The platform is reliable, the speed of configuration and deployment is unbeatable, the service options are terrific, the price is unmatched. The alternative - having to do all those things myself that Heroku does for me - would b

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-16 Thread A. M.
Hey - I'm just saying. I like Heroku a lot. Heroku is good for some things - like blogging, simple applications where you want to reach a wide audience. So yea. On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Julio Cesar Ody wrote: > LOL. > > Had been a while I hadn't seen a troll that huge. Either that, or

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-16 Thread Julio Cesar Ody
LOL. Had been a while I hadn't seen a troll that huge. Either that, or my sarcasm meter is impaired. On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:52 AM, A. M. wrote: > forget about using Heroku and Ruby on Rails for serious applications. If you > want serious - go after a language that has very little documentat

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-16 Thread A. M.
forget about using Heroku and Ruby on Rails for serious applications. If you want serious - go after a language that has very little documentation online - like Python. better yet - go after a language that is enterprise, like Java. On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Derek Lei wrote: > +1 to Ric

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-16 Thread Derek Lei
+1 to Richard's points. On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Richard Conroy wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Mike wrote: > >> >> Maybe I'm just frustrated right now, what are others' thoughts on this? >> >> > Well you are at a price point where you can shop around. Nobody does > serious

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-16 Thread Richard Conroy
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Mike wrote: > > Maybe I'm just frustrated right now, what are others' thoughts on this? > > Well you are at a price point where you can shop around. Nobody does serious comparison between the various Rack based cloud computing offerings, but they are out there, an

Re: Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-16 Thread Abel Tamayo
Yeah, it can be frustrating some times. I have hope that they will improve in this particular aspect soon though, so I'll stay true to Heroku. On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Mike wrote: > Are people comfortable with using Heroku on serious applications? If > so, how did they come to that deci

Heroku on serious applications and lack of support

2010-09-16 Thread Mike
Are people comfortable with using Heroku on serious applications? If so, how did they come to that decision? I have been developing my application on Heroku for some time now, and I've observed that the support can be really worryingly uneven. I'm running a modest sized app, it's costing me aroun