Hello All,
I would really appreciate it if anyone has information on whether IHC/ISH
are considered high complexity testing for histotechs. Our pathologist
believes that ALL histology low complexity testing since a machine is
doing the work. Can anyone help me out with some guidelines,
Sheila,
Yes, IHC/ISH is considered high complexity testing. Sounds like you have a
real gem for a pathologist...sorry to hear that. Just don't let him/her pay
you like a janitor just because that's what he/she thinks that is what you are.
Glen Dawson BS, HT(ASCP) QIHC
IHC Manager
Sorry for the early morning grammar everyone...
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Dawson, Glen
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:13 AM
To: 'Sheila Fonner'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
This is the response I received a year ago from CAP when asked the same
question regarding high complexity testing -
Immunohistochemistry staining (manual or automated) is
considered specimen processing and is not assigned a test complexity
Has something changed recently?
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For those of you that have been using Thermo nylon biospy bags, what are
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I would like to find chromogen for alkaline phosphatase enzyme labeling. I have
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Hello,
Does anyone out there stain for mart-1 on their melanoma cases on frozen
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I am new to working with mouse skeletal muscle and have been reading about
various methods for preparing and freezing tissue for sectioning.
I have heard of the benefits of coating the tissue in talc prior to freezing
but have not yet seen a single protocol that describes the use of talc and
When a machine is doing the test, there are stringent provisions as to the
preparation and validations of the test.
Done manually, it requires a trained technologists and, yes, they are high
complexity tests (both IHC and FISH, and their variations).
René J.
--- On Tue, 2/8/11, Sheila Fonner
The performance of ISH/IHC is in many laboratories considered high
complexity testing - however - as the technologist doing the work does not
make the diagnosis it is considered to be a part of specimen processing.
(How's that for political double talking!) Use of automation in these
procedures
While the test is high complexity it is the READING of the test by the
pathologist that determines its complexity. Because histotechs do not report
the results our part of this test is not high complexity.
Hazel Horn
Hazel Horn, HT/HTL (ASCP)
Supervisor of Autopsy/Histology/Transcription
Hi Histonetters!
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Victoria Baker bakevicto...@gmail.com 2/8/2011 11:58 AM
The performance of ISH/IHC is in many laboratories considered high
complexity testing - however - as the technologist doing the work does not
make the diagnosis it is considered to be a part of
I must disagree with this assessment of what makes a test complex. If the test
is done properly [the responsibility of the technologist] then the reading to
the test is a visual determination that requires experience on the part of the
pathologist, but if the test is not done properly, will
Honey... Estrogen won't do a thing!!! j:)
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Victoria Baker
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:59
To: O'Donnell, Bill
Cc: Dawson, Glen;
We were recently inspected and were told the same thing by CAP about 4
months ago.
Joe Milano
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From: Inman, Anna [mailto:anna.in...@stmarygj.org]
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:27 AM
To: Dawson, Glen; Sheila Fonner; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE:
I've frozen numerous rodent (including mouse) skeletal muscle tissue for
sectioning. I've never heard of using talc before. I just blot any moisture
off the tissue with a paper towel or Kimwipe. I usually do not fix the
tissue beforehand but after sectioning, on the slide. To freeze, I just
The CLIA criteria are below. Note that the entire test is considered to be the
combination of pre-analytic, analytic and post-analytic. It does not matter how
the test is performed (manual or automated) because the FDA determines
complexity of a test as sold by a vendor. It goes with the test,
I should not have included CLIA in my e-mail as it would seem it has clouded
things a little. I do apologize. Initially when these issues and
guidelines came about CLIA and CAP dovetailed as far as Histology was
concerned.
Shelia you were looking for contacts that would help you with getting a
Alright, if IHC is not high complexity testing, CAP should cut that massive
part of their inspection in half and concentrate more on the pathologists'
ability to accurately interpret the staining. Too much CAP regulation,
Proficiency Testing validation requirements involved if all IHC is is
I completely agree!!!
Martha Ward, MT (ASCP) QIHC
Assistant Manager
Molecular Diagnostics Lab
Dept. of Pathology
Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center
Winston-Salem, NC 27157
336-716-2104
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Could not have said it better!
Beatrice Sullivan, HT(A.S.C.P.) HTL , AAS, CLSP(N.C.A.)
AP Supervisor
Shore Memorial Hospital
609-653-3590
Speak only well of people and you need never whisper
Dawson, Glen
Can anyone tell me where I can buy mouse IgG3 to use as a negative control for
some IHC I am doing. I have looked around in my usual places and can't find
anyone who has it.
Thanks
Mark
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Hi Histonetters,
At my hospital, we are having a discussion about how to label cassettes. I have
worked at 2 hospitals, and they each do it a different way. Our cassette
labeller will print either way.
Could you please indicate which way you do it at your site, A or B.
A..When the
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B
Linda A. Sebree
University of Wisconsin Hospital Clinics
IHC/ISH Laboratory
DB1-223 VAH
600 Highland Ave.
Madison, WI 53792
(608)265-6596
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee
Mayhew
Greetings Histoland,
I need some help. We are about to switch IHC machines from the Richard-Allen
Axiom to the Ventana Benchmark Ultra. How many slides, per antibody, do you run
for the validation study? We have over 100 primary antibodies. Normally, when
we work up a new antibody, we start
I was devastated to learn that IHC is not considered High Complexity
Testing. I agree with Bonnie that we do not report results, therefore, IHC
is not considered high complexity testing. Sad but true. Somebody pass the
Scotch. I'm way past Tylenol
JTT
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From:
Joe
If you are following the recommendations from the CAP paper on IHC
standardization then it would be 25 tissues (10 strong positive, 10 weak
to moderate positive and 5 negative).
Liz
Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Manager
Premier Laboratory, LLC
PO Box 18592
Boulder, Colorado
But that is for receptors, correct? Do you do that for everything?
Thanks, j
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Liz Chlipala
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 17:58
To: Joe Nocito; Histonet
Nope that's the recommendation for everything, in the paper they state
additional development is required for prognostic markers. Once you have
validated an antibody it only requires 3 tissues when you get a new lot
number: 1 strong positive, 1 weak to moderate positive and 1 negative.
From how I
Sorry Therese, but -
Only consider this position if you like to be Really busy. As I respect all on
this list. I will issue a warning that this position is much more involved than
the 'ad' says. You would be overseeing the Histo lab, IHC lab, Renal biopsy
lab, Grossing area, Dermatopathology
When changing instruments you are validating the instrument, not the test. For
each antibody you just need to run parallel tests in each instrument showing
equivalence.
However, if you change the instrument and ALSO change the antibody and/or
detection system, Antigen retrieval, etc, then you
Thanks Tim
This is a good way of approaching this. What types of antibodies do you
suggest running the reproducibility tests. For reproducibility I run
about 3 slides in 3 different runs. I only run reproducibility tests
for antibody cross reactivity studies (just after protocol development)
Hello Histonetters!
I am once again completely baffled, and thought you might be able to help. I
run immunocytochemistry on rodent brain tissue every week, always using the
exact same procedures, solutions, buffers, chromagen, and mounting medium.
The only variable is the primary and secondary
fortunately, we don't perform prognostic markers. The doctors don't even
want to venture down that road. When I started working here, that's the
first ting I mentioned. We can save some much money by doing them in-house.
That went over like a lead balloon. On a side note, the staff now were
Completely agree with you Glen. However, do take exception to the initial
comment on this thread about a machine does all the work. The machine does
all the work comment is very telling about what this pathologist (or group of
pathologists) knows and does not know about running IHC. If the
Liz:
I'd like to know more about these recommendations. Could you provide a
journal reference to the paper from CAP?
Thx,
Sally
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:19:53 -0700
From: Liz Chlipala l...@premierlab.com
Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC validation
To:
Hello all,
I am looking for a new histotech position in texas, especially
in the houston area so as to be, very close to my family. Though, any part of
texas is okay.
I am an HT(ASCP) certified histotech. I do have substancial years of
experience and with QIHC(ASCP)
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