[hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data.

2009-08-19 Thread Nick
Please, everyone backup your mod data to different hard drives. It was a western digital btw, only 7 months old. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:

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2009-08-19 Thread Minh
ouch, u should consider setting up an SVN repo. Nick wrote: Please, everyone backup your mod data to different hard drives. It was a western digital btw, only 7 months old. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,

Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data.

2009-08-19 Thread Stephen Micheals
yeah its painfull to loose alot of data, thankfully i have always been a rigid backup nazi and never lost any very important data. having a backup server for your home or a offsite backup tool such as: http://www.jungledisk.com/ can be very useful. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:44 PM,

Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data.

2009-08-19 Thread Adam amckern McKern
There is also an issue with the steam .MSI installer where it will uninstall everything - i had my mod, and its code all stored in sourcemods, and lost it last weekend. Owner Nigredo Studios http://www.nigredostudios.com --- On Wed, 19/8/09, Nick xnicho...@gmail.com wrote: From: Nick

Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data.

2009-08-19 Thread Garry Newman
I've got offsite SVN and a windows home server. Windows Home Server is defo worth looking into just for day to day stuff. I could throw any of my computers out of the window right now and still be able to browse its hard drive via WHS. garry On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:21 AM,

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2009-08-19 Thread Harry Pidcock
Local SVN + Offsite SVN + Daily Backups = No stress. -- From: Garry Newman garrynew...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:09 PM To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive

Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data.

2009-08-19 Thread Jed
2 x 500GB in RAID 1 config + eSata 500GB external with Always Sync works for me :) - Jed 2009/8/19 Garry Newman garrynew...@gmail.com: I've got offsite SVN and a windows home server. Windows Home Server is defo worth looking into just for day to day stuff. I could throw any of my computers

Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data.

2009-08-19 Thread Harry Jeffery
H I really should get my code under svn before the next sdk update is released. 2009/8/19 Jed j...@wunderboy.org: 2 x 500GB in RAID 1 config + eSata 500GB external with Always Sync works for me :) - Jed 2009/8/19 Garry Newman garrynew...@gmail.com: I've got offsite SVN and a windows

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2009-08-19 Thread Garrett Fleenor
Over the course of development, 3 coders with 2 different svn servers and a git server, and I personally have 5 releases backed up onto a 16gig usb stick On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Harry Jeffery harry101jeff...@googlemail.com wrote: H I really should get my code under svn before the

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2009-08-19 Thread Logan Baldock
Harry Jeffery wrote: H I really should get my code under svn before the next sdk update is released. 2009/8/19 Jed j...@wunderboy.org: 2 x 500GB in RAID 1 config + eSata 500GB external with Always Sync works for me :) - Jed 2009/8/19 Garry Newman garrynew...@gmail.com:

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2009-08-19 Thread David Kraeutmann
We use git, so every coder has a backup. + additional encrypted ftp backup On 8/19/09, Logan Baldock p3wner...@gmail.com wrote: Harry Jeffery wrote: H I really should get my code under svn before the next sdk update is released. 2009/8/19 Jed j...@wunderboy.org: 2 x 500GB in RAID 1

Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data.

2009-08-19 Thread Harry Jeffery
I never understood having multiple coders unless it's a large scale project. From experience usually only one is enough per mod. 2009/8/19 David Kraeutmann da...@davidkra.net: We use git, so every coder has a backup. + additional encrypted ftp backup On 8/19/09, Logan Baldock

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2009-08-19 Thread Olly
So you can get stuff done quicker? 2009/8/19 Harry Jeffery harry101jeff...@googlemail.com I never understood having multiple coders unless it's a large scale project. From experience usually only one is enough per mod. 2009/8/19 David Kraeutmann da...@davidkra.net: We use git, so every

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2009-08-19 Thread Benjamin Davison
DropBox if your having trouble getting something setup. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Olly oli...@gmail.com wrote: So you can get stuff done quicker? 2009/8/19 Harry Jeffery harry101jeff...@googlemail.com I never understood having multiple coders unless it's a large scale project.

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2009-08-19 Thread Jed
Guess you've never heard of peer review. :) 2009/8/19 Harry Jeffery harry101jeff...@googlemail.com: I never understood having multiple coders unless it's a large scale project. From experience usually only one is enough per mod. 2009/8/19 David Kraeutmann da...@davidkra.net: We use git, so

Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data.

2009-08-19 Thread David Kraeutmann
I'm the lead dev at Empires, FYI On 8/19/09, Harry Jeffery harry101jeff...@googlemail.com wrote: I never understood having multiple coders unless it's a large scale project. From experience usually only one is enough per mod. 2009/8/19 David Kraeutmann da...@davidkra.net: We use git, so

Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data.

2009-08-19 Thread Harry Jeffery
Thing is I've always been able to get all the work done in a timely manner on my own. Also there's not enough competent source engine programmers to go around. A lot of well thought out and well made mods fail because they just could not get a coder. I just see it as pointless for a mod to have

Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data.

2009-08-19 Thread Richard Slaughter
It can make sense on anything larger than a small mod, after all the SDK is a large codebase, and we don't all have the time to be expert in every single area of it. Although hlcoders does help with that :) Also you have to start somewhere, and having a mentor that knows the code better than

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2009-08-19 Thread Adam Buckland
But surely if the coder actually likes the idea for the mod and wants to work on it, they would? On 19 Aug 2009, at 12:38, Harry Jeffery harry101jeff...@googlemail.com wrote: Thing is I've always been able to get all the work done in a timely manner on my own. Also there's not enough

Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data.

2009-08-19 Thread Harry Jeffery
For a full conversion 3-4 (maybe even 5) coders is acceptable but the majority of mods really don't need as many coders as they try to get. Generally I learn the bit of the SDK I'm about to work on, for a bit before I start work instead of learning the whole thing. By doing gameplay and logic

Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data.

2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:02:35 -0700 From: gear@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. Stay on Topic. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Harry Jeffery

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:02:35 -0700 From: gear@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. Stay on Topic. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Harry Jeffery

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:02:35 -0700 From: gear@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. Stay on Topic. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Harry Jeffery

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:02:35 -0700 From: gear@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. Stay on Topic. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Harry Jeffery

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:02:35 -0700 From: gear@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. Stay on Topic. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Harry Jeffery

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:02:35 -0700 From: gear@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. Stay on Topic. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Harry Jeffery

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:02:35 -0700 From: gear@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. Stay on Topic. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Harry Jeffery

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:02:35 -0700 From: gear@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. Stay on Topic. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Harry Jeffery

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:02:35 -0700 From: gear@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. Stay on Topic. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Harry Jeffery

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2009-08-19 Thread Jonas 'Sortie' Termansen
*To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders If that isn't helpful, please tell us and we'll help you get off the list. (Or can some administrator simply remove him permanently so he doesn't spam

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2009-08-19 Thread Ronny Schedel
You deserve to get another one... I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:02:35 -0700 From: gear@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. Stay on Topic. On Wed, Aug

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2009-08-19 Thread Adam Buckland
I would politely suggest that you unsubscribe from the list or opt for the daily digest instead. There was no need for that childish display. On 19 Aug 2009, at 20:36, Joost van kempen little_jo...@hotmail.com wrote: I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:02:35

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE From: adamjbuckl...@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:02:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. I would politely suggest that you unsubscribe from the list

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE From: adamjbuckl...@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:02:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. I would politely suggest that you unsubscribe from the list

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE From: adamjbuckl...@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:02:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. I would politely suggest that you unsubscribe from the list

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE From: adamjbuckl...@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:02:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. I would politely suggest that you unsubscribe from the list

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE From: adamjbuckl...@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:02:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. I would politely suggest that you unsubscribe from the list

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE From: adamjbuckl...@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:02:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. I would politely suggest that you unsubscribe from the list

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE From: adamjbuckl...@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:02:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. I would politely suggest that you unsubscribe from the list

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE From: adamjbuckl...@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:02:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. I would politely suggest that you unsubscribe from the list

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE From: adamjbuckl...@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:02:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. I would politely suggest that you unsubscribe from the list

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE From: adamjbuckl...@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:02:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. I would politely suggest that you unsubscribe from the list

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE From: adamjbuckl...@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:02:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. I would politely suggest that you unsubscribe from the list

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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
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2009-08-19 Thread Joost van kempen
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2009-08-19 Thread botman
LOL. On 8/19/2009 3:21 PM, Joost van kempen wrote: I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE From: adamjbuckl...@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:02:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data. I would

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2009-08-19 Thread ZuM
OH, PLEASE GOD SOMEONE REMOVE HIM! As said before, if you don't want this spam mail, REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE LIST PLEASE. 2009/8/19 Joost van kempen little_jo...@hotmail.com I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE From: adamjbuckl...@gmail.com To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed,

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2009-08-19 Thread Harry Jeffery
Can an admin ban/remove this kiddy who thought he was grown up enough to be in the hlcoders mail list? 2009/8/19 ZuM eduardo...@gmail.com: OH, PLEASE GOD SOMEONE REMOVE HIM! As said before, if you don't want this spam mail, REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE LIST PLEASE. 2009/8/19 Joost van kempen

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2009-08-19 Thread Dave Gomboc
Unfortunately, even the daily digests are frequently not of much help, because many posters reply to long threads without chopping off the stuff that is no longer relevant from the bottom. There are days where those of us subscribing to the daily digest receive many such messages, and each

Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data.

2009-08-19 Thread Brent Lewis
DAMN PEOPLE! Flood much? Here, let me help. :-P On 19 Aug 2009, at 20:36, Joost van kempen little_jo...@hotmail.com wrote: I DONT WANT THIS SPAM MAIL ANYMORE ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please

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2009-08-19 Thread Ryan Sheffer
Using gmail so it doesn't actually spam your inbox with new messages, puts them all under one message. Not sure how everyone elses works. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Brent Lewis coder0...@hotmail.com wrote: DAMN PEOPLE! Flood much? Here, let me help. :-P On 19 Aug 2009, at 20:36,

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2009-08-19 Thread Jonathan Murphy
The new Thunderbird is capable of compiling a conversation into a single view of messages much like a forum reads. But the guy was saying that the *digest* doesn't remove the quoted text. The digest is a single e-mail generated weekly (maybe daily too? Not sure) with all the mailing list posts in

Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of data.

2009-08-19 Thread Jonathan Murphy
I just sent him some very nasty e-mails as well as a unsubscribe confirmation to his inbox. I have a feeling he won't read them though. :\ On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Jonathan Murphy nuclearfri...@gmail.comwrote: The new Thunderbird is capable of compiling a conversation into a single

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2009-08-19 Thread Garrett Kylegar Fleenor
hehehe, I like how he missed To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders at the bottom of every e-mail On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Jonathan Murphy nuclearfri...@gmail.comwrote: I just sent him