RE: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread stalker333
Corey, Glad to know our tax dolloars are being spent well heh. Seriously though, no, the webserv shouldnt affect gameplay much at all in that case, only when someone is connected to it and not much even then (depending on the amount and size of the stuff you host, of course) You should be able t

RE: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread ray
On that note...I have a dual core, dual cpu Opteron 1U sitting next to me (Tyan GX28 B2881) shipping next week to Equinix in Chicago for game hosting. OS = Win2k3 Enterprise Server x64. I'll be happy to post results once it's in colo. As for compatability so far...flawless. Little game I had to pla

Re: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread Jim
I have ran Intel and AMD prefer the AMD for the 64 Bit Processor and looking to expand to the Dual Core. But just a Preference. As for operating Systems, Lynux, Unix, AIX, Windows. Each have thier benefits But host Game on Win X64... Just hate having the Guns and no ammo to drive the 64 Bit Proc

Re: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread Jim
WOW... talk about the firing line... I host an SRCDS Server on WinX64 no problems.. all as a hobby. Thank you to those that Came to the call when I was setting up my HTTP Web Server which is hosted on Lynux. My best recommendation as a HOBBY... find the platform you are most comfortable in worki

Re: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread Ook
I have used both IIS and Apache for a couple of years, on both small do-it-yourself home-brew web pages, and large scale commercial servers. I've found that if you are having performance problems, switching to/from apache/IIS isn't likely to make much difference. If you are really serving enough d

RE: [hlds] How Long is 1 Wait in SRCDS?

2005-08-05 Thread Alfred Reynolds
Wait is a script command, who does the waiting depends on who runs the script. If you run it from your console directly with the "exec" command then it is relative to your client. If you run "rcon exec script" then it will run on the remote server (and the wait will be relative to its FPS). - Alfr

Re: [hlds] How Long is 1 Wait in SRCDS?

2005-08-05 Thread Ruiner
I don`t think you can do wait server side.. wait is a client-side command... as far as I know - Original Message - From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] How Long is 1 Wait in SRCDS? > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alt

Re: [hlds] How Long is 1 Wait in SRCDS?

2005-08-05 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Sorry, now you have confused the issue Is it the fps value returned by an stats or rcon stats command? or Is it the fps value as defined by fps_max? The way I interpreted Alfred's explanation, is that it would be based on actual server fps, wh

Re: [hlds] How Long is 1 Wait in SRCDS?

2005-08-05 Thread Ruiner
Not really. fps_max 30, do 30 waits, and that's 1 second. - Original Message - From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] How Long is 1 Wait in SRCDS? > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Makes it a lot more dif

Re: [hlds] How Long is 1 Wait in SRCDS?

2005-08-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
doh, no, slipped my mind. out the door to go do some work right now, I'll leave myself a note to email Alfred or someone about that when I get home... On 8/5/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Makes it a lot more difficult to try to wor

Re: [hlds] How Long is 1 Wait in SRCDS?

2005-08-05 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Makes it a lot more difficult to try to work out how many waits you ought to have in a script. BTW, have you found out what the difference between server fps and tickrate actually means yet? On 8/6/05, Clayton Macleod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [hlds] How Long is 1 Wait in SRCDS?

2005-08-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
I'd always thought it was a fixed period too, surprised that it's just until the next frame. Serves its purpose I suppose. On 8/5/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Thanks Clayton > I found it too luckily :) -- Clayton Macleod _

Re: [hlds] How Long is 1 Wait in SRCDS?

2005-08-05 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thanks Clayton I found it too luckily :) On 8/6/05, Clayton Macleod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > in case you missed it, it was accidentally in the TFC thread... > > The "wait" command delays execution until the next frame. So the > duration o

Re: [hlds] Has VALVe abandoned TFC for good?

2005-08-05 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thanks Alfred On 8/6/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The "wait" command delays execution until the next frame. So the > duration of a wait depends upon your frame rate. > > - Alfred > > Original Message > From: [EMAIL P

Re: [hlds] How Long is 1 Wait in SRCDS?

2005-08-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
in case you missed it, it was accidentally in the TFC thread... The "wait" command delays execution until the next frame. So the duration of a wait depends upon your frame rate. - Alfred On 8/5/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Than

Re: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread James Tucker
:) easy to do. On higher volume sites you find people with http pipelining switched on and other goodies like that which will effectively DoS an XP based server, however the TCP level restrictions for incomplete sockets is far more of a restriction than the version of IIS itself. On 8/5/05, Dustin

Re: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread James Tucker
I have been a professional Tomcat (apache) developer aswell as being involved in both consultancy and development cycles of some very major .NET deployments (supported by IIS). Both were large collaborative projects and both came to fruition. On 8/5/05, Hemminger Corey SrA 735 CES/CEUD <[EMAIL PRO

RE: [hlds] Has VALVe abandoned TFC for good?

2005-08-05 Thread Alfred Reynolds
The "wait" command delays execution until the next frame. So the duration of a wait depends upon your frame rate. - Alfred Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Napier, Kevin Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 4:38 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Su

Re: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread Dustin Tuft
Thank you for the correction, I had forgoten that XP ended up with a connection limitation. From: James Tucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Web server Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 11:36:17 +0100 On 8/5/05, Dustin <[EMAIL

RE: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread Dustin Tuft
I have used both, but used Linux very little (mostly to teach my self how to setup web services). Mostly IIS becasue the clients I contact for required a windows based solution, and the ease of using IIS out wieghts the fight with the client to switch to Lunix. All fairness aside, what ever the cl

Re: [hlds] How Long is 1 Wait in SRCDS?

2005-08-05 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thanks anyway On 8/6/05, Brian M Frain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know they are pretty quick, you can test it yourself by making a > bind and running additional waits till it is noticable, it takes quit > a few. I am sorry that isn't exactl

Re: [hlds] How Long is 1 Wait in SRCDS?

2005-08-05 Thread Brian M Frain
I know they are pretty quick, you can test it yourself by making a bind and running additional waits till it is noticable, it takes quit a few. I am sorry that isn't exactly what you are looking for, the best I can say it you will need around 10-20 before it begins to show. It's been a few months s

RE: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread Hemminger Corey SrA 735 CES/CEUD
Just curious, but how many people have used both. These fights are starting to sound like all the other fan boy fights like windows or Linux, Intel or AMD, NVIDIA or ati. In most of those cases I've found a lot of people have only used one product for so long that they get attached and no matter wh

RE: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread Hemminger Corey SrA 735 CES/CEUD
Well I'm In the US Air Force and currently stationed in Ramstein Germany. I have a DSL connection with 6mbs dl and 786kbs upload and am working on getting them to bump up my upload speed some more. But I figured I could run a 16 player server and have just a simple mainly text based site with only

Re: [hlds] Has VALVe abandoned TFC for good?

2005-08-05 Thread m1kest4r
I dont see why abandoning TFC is such a problem, qwtf is much better. :P On 8/5/05, Napier, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FF is about as close to it as we'll probably get. BF2 is awesome, hopefully > the first round of bugs will be gone by the end of the summer. I'd love to > see a tf2 mo

Re: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread Agent|BeNt
At times I wonder if this mailing list is more for bitch fests than explaining and figuring out problems with "HLDS/SCRDS" Geezit seems at times this list likes to blow up and it always ends up being a linux vs. unix enviroment.When in the end it ends up being the end user making the differen

RE: [hlds] Has VALVe abandoned TFC for good?

2005-08-05 Thread Napier, Kevin
FF is about as close to it as we'll probably get. BF2 is awesome, hopefully the first round of bugs will be gone by the end of the summer. I'd love to see a tf2 mod ontop of bf2 though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Newbould Sent:

RE: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread Napier, Kevin
What a joke.. There are plenty of multi-million\billion companies running IIS. James's first response said it best. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Clayton Macleod Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:54 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subjec

Re: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
like I said, both camps claim better performance. You just happen to be in the IIS camp. There are just as many in the apache camp that show apache performing better. The fact that you were able to get better performance out of IIS doesn't necessarily mean anything more than you have more IIS knowl

Re: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread James Tucker
On 8/5/05, Hemminger Corey SrA 735 CES/CEUD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well I'm looking at doing this currently as a hobby and a learning > experience. No problem. > I have just started reading into setting up a CSS dedicated > server, and when a couple of parts that are on order come in I plan

Re: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread James Tucker
On 8/5/05, Dustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not sure about the Apache, but I use IIS 6 and 5 for both Windows Server > 2003 and Windows Server 2000/Windows XP PRO and have had well over 100 > connections at a time. So I don't belive he will have a limitation there. There are some major limitati

Re: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread James Tucker
On 8/5/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > It amuses me that some people think that there are not people on this list > who aren't dealing with >100,000 hits a day, and who's web traffic is > measured in terabytes/month. Glad you are amu

Re: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
says you ;) On 8/5/05, James Tucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > End of discussion. -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread James Tucker
On 8/5/05, Clayton Macleod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes, multi-million/multi-billion dollar companies are worried about > paying for iis, you're right... Actually, many of them are. The reason is that in fact, it's not just IIS you buy is it? And you wouldn't want to host off of un-managed wor

RE: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread Hemminger Corey SrA 735 CES/CEUD
Well I'm looking at doing this currently as a hobby and a learning experience. I have just started reading into setting up a CSS dedicated server, and when a couple of parts that are on order come in I plan to get that running and then from the same box as the CSS server I would run a Web Server fo

RE: [hlds] Has VALVe abandoned TFC for good?

2005-08-05 Thread [BT]Black V
Yeah TF2 will come out just after Duke Nukem Forever -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clayton Macleod Sent: Friday, 5 August 2005 1:32 p.m. To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Has VALVe abandoned TFC for good? but, but, they

Re: [hlds] Web server

2005-08-05 Thread Agent|BeNt
- Original Message - From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It amuses me that some people think that there are not people on this list who aren't dealing with >100,000 hits a day, and who's web traffic is measured in terabytes/month. Yeah no joke.