Re: [hlds] Re: unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread Dagok
All I've seen for the last week is a lot of whining. In the grand scheme of things, this was a minor blip on the radar. Did this last patch really effect your lives that dramatically? I doubt it. Get over it and move on with your insignificant lives. Could things have gone better? Sure. Are

[hlds] Faulty Updates

2005-12-25 Thread House Of Rock Email
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I don’t really have a problem with HOW or WHEN updates are rolled out and I fully understand that these updates are FREE. I too work “in the industry” for one of the largest IT companies in existence an

Re: [hlds] RE: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4279 - 5 msgs

2005-12-25 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] And I don't care what you think On 12/26/05, James McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, but you are stupid enough to continue the discussion with the whole > thread. As a third party participant, I'd like to inform you that we don't > care.

Re: [hlds] RE: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4279 - 5 msgs

2005-12-25 Thread James McKenna
No, but you are stupid enough to continue the discussion with the whole thread. As a third party participant, I'd like to inform you that we don't care. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://li

Re: [hlds] Re: unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread richardwelsh
What's wrong with now? With all due respect sirI'm leaving an email box full of gripes for Alfred to come back to work with so maybe he can affect a change for all of us to not have to deal with this garbage again. Surely you want things to be better than it is now right? Rayne

Re: [hlds] Re: unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ray I was happy to let you have your rage at the screw ups that have ensued recently, as I fully appreciate where you are coming from, but to seriously expect things to run smoothly at this time of the year with our main contact to Valve on holida

Re: [hlds] RE: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4279 - 5 msgs

2005-12-25 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] At least I am not stupid enough to reply to the whole digest without editing it or quoting it correctly. Here are a few pictures to explain the world to you: http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~shane/stasj/pics/humor/div/108.html http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~

RE: [hlds] Re: unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread ray
With all due respect sirI'm leaving an email box full of gripes for Alfred to come back to work with so maybe he can affect a change for all of us to not have to deal with this garbage again. Surely you want things to be better than it is now right? Rayne -Original Message- From: [EM

Re: [hlds] Re: unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Valve fucked this one up, so what. This is not an apology for Valve, because they really did fuck things up, but its a sad indicment on the rest of you who were stupid enough to think things would run smoothly a few days out from christmas and wi

Re: [hlds] RE: Unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I was being sarcastic On 12/26/05, sprout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > im not demanding any actual time just a random time that they announce > about > a day or 2 ahead of time that way all server admins can upgrade their > servers asap most ot

RE: [hlds] Re: unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread John McCollor
Thank You!! Valve Software and keep up the good job!! We love your games. May the new year be good for everyone. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: December 25, 2005 1:11 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: un

[hlds] RE: unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread Chris | FatPipeServer.com
I'm sure Valve is sophisticated enough to push an update to a certain timezone at a certain time of the day. If you don't think so, then maybe you're the ignorant wretch. Go back to your hole unless you have something useful to say. People like you are the reason that progress on issues like thi

Re: [hlds] Re: unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread Jim
I understand the fustrations a lot of you express... I have my fair share as well... but let's look at the facts I work in the industry and a number of you whine and cry over what: Free Maintenance and Upgrades at "NO COST". Recurring revenue is not based on anything "FREE". The people at

[hlds] RE: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4279 - 5 msgs

2005-12-25 Thread Chris | FatPipeServer.com
Wow Whisper, valve is an american company. I was thinking EST-PST timezone. Sorry for alienating you. I guess with bitches like Whisper around the only thing we'll ever get accomplished is whining on a list like this. Chris | FatPipeServers Staff Game Server Technical Support Staff http://www.f

Re: [hlds] Re: unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread Ian mu
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How do people know its mandatory, and also overwrite files in use though? I decided against this idea mainly historically where servers wouldn't update and were down. Just wondered if there's any way of knowing whats mandatory (other than adviseme

Re: [hlds] Re: unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread sprout
to tell you the truth I have setup something easier and better then your idea just a second command line they can execute from their control panel in which they can start the update for the clients themselves but I still advise them to sign up here so they know if there is a update out or not. If

[hlds] Re: unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread StealthMode
In reply to my idea being absurd. That's funny your competitor's have been doing this for years. I guess that my "absurd" idea works flawlessly for professionals. Take it how you want. The server has to be up to date for a client to connect to it after they update. That is why "forcing updates dur

RE: [hlds] unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread John McCollor
Windows (Scheduled Tasks) Task 1.) check for update and download to master folder. Task 2.) Use robocopy to sync production game folders to master. If new files are copied, restart game server. Anything can be automated. Just need to work at it, but it would b

Re: [hlds] RE: Unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread sprout
im not demanding any actual time just a random time that they announce about a day or 2 ahead of time that way all server admins can upgrade their servers asap most other games have this deal. Thats why I request it. Makes running servers much nicer and saves many cell minutes and frustration fro

Re: [hlds] RE: Unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I demand all updates be made at 10:30am my time Monday morning, as that gives my staff an hour and a half to clear their morning shit out of the way, and then the roll out can be done Monday morning when our servers aren't very busy, and we have t

Re: [hlds] RE: Unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread richardwelsh
we all know they update at about 3pm to 5pm on the west coast time. Now, that puts it about 7a to 9a or earlier in Eastern Asia where Valve's major market is. Or it could be that they finalize there stuff just before the first shift crew leaves for the day. Which ever you prefer... Merry Chris

Re: [hlds] RE: Unannounced updates

2005-12-25 Thread Mick
He he, qualifies for reply of the year...well said Whisper :) Seasons Greetings - Original Message - From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: Unannounced updates -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Th