Re: [hlds] Steam client crash

2009-03-10 Thread Saint K.
Hi, I can confirm the problem has been solved in the beta. Thanks for the quick update. Saint K. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John McCaskey Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:24 AM To: 'Half-Life

Re: [hlds] Steam client crash

2009-03-10 Thread Saint K.
Hi, I found that steam.exe doesn't crash anymore, thought hl2.exe still crashes when you switch servers outside from tf2. Cheers, -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009

[hlds] scout update flaw

2009-03-10 Thread cacksteve
i suppose everyone knows that low gravity breaks the scouts unlockables. - Original Message - From: hlds-requ...@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:24 AM Subject: hlds Digest, Vol 13, Issue 48 Send hlds mailing list submissions to

[hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Patrick Shelley
Im posting it here, as it happened on my server (just so knob head doesnt chime in with the usual 'Relevant to server administation' bollox) A guy tonight (on my server) explained how to get the hunter to crouch with no sound whilst being able to move around at very fast speeds. To do it, while

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Shawn Zipay
I thought that the system simply doesn't allow you to spawn in an area where there's an object sitting? Shawn P. Zipay Site Director CS-Nation -- http://www.csnation.net Total Gaming Network -- http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com MyInternetServices -- http://www.myinternetservices.com On Tue,

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Brent Veal
It's actually been happening quite a bit in my server lately as well. It's starting to get well-known, I guess. Hopefully it gets patched soon. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Patrick Shelley sidest...@gmail.comwrote: Im posting it here, as it happened on my server (just so knob head doesnt

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Brent Veal
You walk into an object like a crate, door, rail, etc, then tap crouch, then walk out of the object. At this point, you're permanently in crouch mode until you tap crouch again, even when you spawn. However you dont make any noise at all and you move at running speed, making for an easy pounce.

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread msleeper
Sounds like fun, I'll have to give it a try. On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 22:02 +, Patrick Shelley wrote: Im posting it here, as it happened on my server (just so knob head doesnt chime in with the usual 'Relevant to server administation' bollox) A guy tonight (on my server) explained how to

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Clyde cide
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Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread matan nov
Maybe even make a honeypot server than bans anyone that crouches? On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:28 AM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Sounds like fun, I'll have to give it a try. On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 22:02 +, Patrick Shelley wrote: Im posting it here, as it happened on my server

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Patrick Shelley
Brilliant ! On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:26 AM, matan nov tanktun...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe even make a honeypot server than bans anyone that crouches? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Rick Payton
That would be quite funny. -mauirixxx -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of matan nov Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:26 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] New? Hunter

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Aj Collins
Maybe even make a honeypot server than bans anyone that crouches? Oh HLDS Mailing List, how I love you. Delivering epic wins right to my inbox. 3 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Rick Payton r...@mai-hawaii.com wrote: That would be quite funny. -mauirixxx -Original Message- From:

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread msleeper
Good idea, I'll whip something up right away. On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 02:26 +0200, matan nov wrote: Maybe even make a honeypot server than bans anyone that crouches? On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:28 AM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Sounds like fun, I'll have to give it a try.

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Jeff Sugar
Seconding AJ's sentiments. Got a nice chuckle out of it :) On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Aj Collins gamerzwo...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe even make a honeypot server than bans anyone that crouches? Oh HLDS Mailing List, how I love you. Delivering epic wins right to my inbox. 3 On Tue, Mar

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Patrick Shelley
We werent talking *to* you - we were talking *about* you On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:51 AM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Good idea, I'll whip something up right away. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Rick Payton
Can you make it configurable for any action that's normally bindable to a key? +forward = BAN -mauirixxx -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:51 PM To: Half-Life

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Patrick Shelley
Nice thinking Rick Maybe just create hundreds of honeyppots that ban you just for joining might be even better? On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Rick Payton r...@mai-hawaii.com wrote: Can you make it configurable for any action that's normally bindable to a key? +forward = BAN

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread 1nsane
Amazing idea. Perhaps add a synchronization database so other people could run it too? Our goal could be to break the lobby system? Who wants to join us? We'd require a lot of people if this is to work out. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Good idea,

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Rick Payton
Well there's nothing funny about banning on joining now is there? Clicking forward and getting banned. ./chuckles. Patrick, why would anyone devote hundreds of honeypots when just one will do fine? That's just ... Retarded. Yes, a plugin to ban players for crouching is retarded as well,

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Patrick Shelley
Count me in - the lobby needs re-decorating badly ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Aj Collins
I could make a webpage for it with a Chris Hanson picture trying to make it seem as if people who crouch are child predators and warn them that every server admin is looking and banning crouchers, ultimately trying to make the community look bad. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:07 PM, 1nsane

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Rick Payton
Yes because crouchers are BAD BAD PEOPLE. BAN THE CROUCHING COMMUNITY. -mauirixxx -Sent from #crouching -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Aj Collins Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:18 PM To: Half-Life

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Jake E
Oh HLDS Mailing List, how I love you. Delivering epic wins right to my inbox. 3 Just a plugin to restrict hunters from crouching while in spawn mode would work. someone convert this into a working plugin if spawn_mode=TRUE then(+crouch=FALSE) Me no no coding language at all. I would not be

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread msleeper
I took a step further and I am working on parsing every Steam owner, 500k accounts at a time. If the person owns Left 4 Dead then their SteamID gets added to a banlist. A TF2 version will be coming shortly. On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 00:59 +, Patrick Shelley wrote: We werent talking *to* you -

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Patrick Shelley
I'm sorry Rick, please accept my sincere apologies - i forgot you were the only paid up member of msleepers fan club. Now get back in your box with sleeper, we'll tape the lid down and mail you both off to Valve HQ - im sure they could do with beating the crap out of another pinata.

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Rick Payton
What can I say? I countered a lame jab by taking it a huge step further. Msleeper even took it a step further. Ok I may be the only one that get's a chuckle out of it, due to the absurdity of it all. But fuck Patrick ... Try harder dude? -mauirixx -Sent from #tryharder -Original Message-

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Patrick Shelley
Wrong list Rick, this is HLDS for windows. You need HLDS for toilet cleaners 3 On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Rick Payton r...@mai-hawaii.com wrote: What can I say? I countered a lame jab by taking it a huge step further. Msleeper even took it a step further. Ok I may be the only one that

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread msleeper
It is absurd that people are still going on and on about it. I thought about making a quick plugin that would probably cockblock this problem, but fuck it, we'll do it live. Patrick can write it now if he wants to stop it so badly. On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 15:36 -1000, Rick Payton wrote: What can

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Aj Collins
How about I just rewrite this (http://gzwn.net/TF2Autoban/) for L4D and be done with it? On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Patrick Shelley sidest...@gmail.comwrote: Wrong list Rick, this is HLDS for windows. You need HLDS for toilet cleaners 3 On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Rick Payton

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Rick Payton
I know perfectly well what list we're on and crap we're contributing. Claiming I need another mailing list for toilet cleaners? We all know such a list doesn't exist OR DOES IT? In any case, to the rest of the list, my apologies (again) for whoring out the list and giving Valve yet one more

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread SakeFox
lets just make it more fun, just randomly ban cretin people everyday. http://www.kingdomsend.com/steamban.php msleeper wrote: It is absurd that people are still going on and on about it. I thought about making a quick plugin that would probably cockblock this problem, but fuck it, we'll do it

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Patrick Shelley
Nice - can yoou do one for Peggle while your at it - that AI is one cheating bastard On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Aj Collins gamerzwo...@gmail.com wrote: How about I just rewrite this (http://gzwn.net/TF2Autoban/) for L4D and be done with it?

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Aj Collins
SakeFox, need moar people. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:48 PM, SakeFox sake...@kingdomsend.com wrote: lets just make it more fun, just randomly ban cretin people everyday. http://www.kingdomsend.com/steamban.php msleeper wrote: It is absurd that people are still going on and on about it.

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Rick Payton
Refresh the page. -mauirixxx -Sent from the random steambans website: http://www.kingdomsend.com/steamban.php -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Aj Collins Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:53 PM To:

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Patrick Shelley
I'm not arsed, i'll use the exploit until Valve fix it themselves. As for writing it, its already been done - our Jake did it earlier: if spawn_mode=TRUE then(+crouch=FALSE) Just 'compile' it - put it in some folder on your mums PC and restart solitaire - works for me! It shows you though, how

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Tony Paloma
Jay grabbed the intercom mic. Shut up, please, he observed. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Rick Payton Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:55 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject:

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Patrick Shelley
The List Policemen heard the rudeness over the tannoy and proceeded to intercom room. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Rick Payton
Aww damnit. I was having fun too until you started up with putting us down. I said nothing negative towards / about you, yet you still insisted on taking shit in a whole new NOT FUN direction. The worst I said to you was hell man, keep it funny at least instead of getting stupid with it. I would

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Richard Eid
As always, it's best to e-mail these exploits to someone at Valve directly, or to Support, instead of broadcasting them, in detail, here on the list. Forcing Valve's hand to fix these doesn't do much for the players until a fix comes out. All you have done, again, is share the details of an

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Patrick Shelley
Agreed - you have me bang to rights, again. I did promise not to do this again. I even thought of mailing you directly so you could pass it on, but my doopidity prevailed. Right, i PROMISE i wont do it again. 10% x 1% Respect, Richard :) Rick, Valve wont do a Pay Check, but i'll ask them

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Rick Payton
I have a sense of humor, even when the fact that someone should make a honeypot plugin for crouching I got a good laugh out of it. But when you're lightly insulting me, or just lamely insulting me - why should I have a sense of humor about that? Asking someone to do that is about as ridiculous

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Bruce Potter
Richard, some folks think that publicly disclosing the vulnerability is actually the best way to handle these situations. There's a long standing debate regarding the merits of full disclosure and its impact on the user community, vendors, and admins. Not that wikipedia is the authority

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Cc2iscooL
I agree with this notion. Plus the fact that it means I can ban people who would exploit such things in the future from my servers. Once an exploiter, always an exploiter. ;) On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Bruce Potter gd...@shmoo.com wrote: Richard, some folks think that publicly disclosing

Re: [hlds] New? Hunter Exploit

2009-03-10 Thread Patrick Shelley
Rick, OK - i left school decades ago, but seeing as you havent, heres me sinking to your level. You called me retarded, stupid, accused me of being lame. Take a look at your posts. You started on me before i started on you. Fact. I just came into the IRC to offer an olive branch to both you and

Re: [hlds] Possible Host_Error crash fix

2009-03-10 Thread Arg!
i was wondering if anyone has any results of running their servers since removing this plugin after the last update (unless your like me and are waiting for other people to post results before removing it) On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Ignitor igni...@5e-community.com wrote: Tony, Just

Re: [hlds] symlink multiple servers

2009-03-10 Thread Stephen Micheals
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896768.aspx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_junction_point On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Dustin Tuft dustint...@hotmail.com wrote: You might want to look into Junctions, which I think is what windows calls them. You can use the

Re: [hlds] Possible Host_Error crash fix

2009-03-10 Thread Tony Paloma
Remove the plugin. Works fine without it now. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Arg! Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:55 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Possible