Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread Asher Baker
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:21 AM, Ahmed Kandeel astrida...@googlemail.com wrote: *Okay guys, I enacted on my idea and would like some support. I've created a steam group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/fixquickplay (Fix Quickplay Now!) as a form of petition against the changes to the Quickplay

Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread Weasels Lair
This thread was still-born. On Feb 9, 2015 10:38 AM, Andreas Willinger aw...@gmx.at wrote: So, we will let this thread die again? Great Valve, really great, you used to be a nice company. *Von:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *Im Auftrag

Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread Ahmed Kandeel
I understand your misgivings Asherkin, but this issue affects more than just modders and plugin creators. This concerns nearly every admin out there and the hundreds if not thousands of group owners who have at some point in time spent (lots) of time and money on servers for TF2. While this may

Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread Jordan Olling
Someone should get Kritzkast to talk about this. Are any of them subscribed to this list? On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Ahmed Kandeel astrida...@googlemail.com wrote: I understand your misgivings Asherkin, but this issue affects more than just modders and plugin creators. This concerns

Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread Lyrai
The fact that the first thought is They're working against me and not Technical limitations speaks volumes to the general attitude of this entire mailing list and gives good reason for Valve to never set foot in it. The entire mailing list acts as if they're on some holy war that will lead to

Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread Ahmed Kandeel
To be honest, I doubt any of us are going to get responses. I myself as have others have tried to bring this to the community's attention via Reddit. While support has been there, it has been too weak to bring about any major action. People who post about this on the new steam based forums for

Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread Ahmed Kandeel
In fact I have an idea that is even better than a petition if anyone would like to hear it. But I'd rather keep it out of the mailing list. On 9 February 2015 at 19:35, Ahmed Kandeel astrida...@googlemail.com wrote: To be honest, I doubt any of us are going to get responses. I myself as have

Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread Paul
One of my most recent replies to this thread went into moderation for some reason, and was eventually rejected. Contained nothing harmful, rude or not truthful, only honesty. But it was rejected. I wonder if this mailing list will start having posts moderated... On 9 February 2015 at 18:38,

Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread Andreas Willinger
So, we will let this thread die again? Great Valve, really great, you used to be a nice company. Von: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von Tim Anderson Gesendet: Donnerstag, 05. Februar 2015 22:12 An: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com;

Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread Ahmed Kandeel
*Okay guys, I enacted on my idea and would like some support. I've created a steam group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/fixquickplay (Fix Quickplay Now!) as a form of petition against the changes to the Quickplay system.* With this group I'd like to show the will of the TF2 community and educate

Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread Robert Paulson
It is rather rude of you to assume that all blocked emails were simply blocked due to a large size. While that was the reason I deleted all the replies this time, I have previously received messages like this even with all the replies deleted and having the wording rearranged 10 different times

Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread E. Olsen
I certainly agree that adopting an adversarial tone is the wrong course, but I can also understand the folks that feel that way - and lack of communication is the cause. There are some easy fixes here that could restore both good faith and help get the dialog going again between server operators

Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread Korrey Moore
One of my most recent replies to this thread went into moderation for some reason, and was eventually rejected. Contained nothing harmful, rude or not truthful, only honesty. But it was rejected. I wonder if this mailing list will start having posts moderated... The more likely explanation is

Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread Supreet Sahni
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Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread Alexander Corn
I’ve reached the point where I no longer lose sleep over this. At this point I don’t expect any growth of TF2. All I care about anymore is trying to keep my the people in my community around as long as they still care about TF2. Trying to convince Valve of anything is a waste of time for me.

Re: [hlds] Rethinking the community quickplay ban

2015-02-09 Thread Cats FromAbove
Speak for yourself Supreet. I think most would agree that your adversarial stance on this matter is profoundly unhelpful for both yourself and other members of this mailiing list. I also wonder what level of intellect would be required to come to the conclusion that being relegated to the server