I don't agree with that.
When someone post a problem, first come advices from maybe not too much
expert people, when the problem persists, more educated and knowledged
people start to write and maybe they find what causes the problem, but
they can't solve it, than experts. If expert can't
So where else is it possible to have a discussion? The Steam forums?
Yeah, right.
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:48 PM, sixtysixno...@hotmail.com wrote:
Well Said
-Original Message-
From: Kingsley Foreman kings...@internode.com.au
Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve It's Time To Listen And Answer!
I've stayed quiet on this one but seriously i'm sick of the spam. If you
want to whine about Valve go create your own mail list and feel free to do
it all you want.
I know that many of you have been hosting servers for a long time, I also
know many of you haven't im also assuming some people
Legitimate complaints != Spam.
Our concerns aren't being addressed. Like I've said before, I just want
answers. I'm not telling Valve they suck - just the opposite. I've said many
times they're the best in this space.
But being the best means being accountable. I'm just asking them to give
Posting 40, 50, and 60 page threads with COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE
FOR WEEKS is spam though, Karl. We get it, you have your panties in a
wad. EVERYONE gets it.
I really think you have mistaken this mailing list as some sort of
support or complaint forum. IT'S NOT! This mailing list is for
Before you make your post on a subject, please read what was posted and
not just assume you read it all. There was never anyone screaming about
a boycott or alike. It sounds like your rant is more about other peoples
issues then the one that this topic was about.
Kingsley Foreman wrote:
I've
So basically you equivocate Valve's response with a 5 year year old
child taking his ball and going home. I agree completely.
Kingsley Foreman wrote:
I've stayed quiet on this one but seriously i'm sick of the spam. If you
want to whine about Valve go create your own mail list and feel free
You aren't the one who needs to get it.
And no, I don't think I've mistaken anything. This is the dedicated server
mailing list. It's owned by Valve. Nowhere is it stated that this is not to be
used for support or complaints. Did you make that up?
-Original Message-
From:
It was a generalization, ive been on this list a long time and seen many
people yell boycott.
and to Timothy
If someone kept calling me to tell me how much I suck i would stop answering
the phone wouldn't you?
and to Karl this mail list was a support list for the windows version of
hlds that
Well Said
-Original Message-
From: Kingsley Foreman kings...@internode.com.au
Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve It's Time To Listen And Answer! --- they
don't owe you anything.
I'm actually more annoyed at the people on the list who have changed it
into
what it is today rather then a
Seriously? Have you ever been on a mailing list for a piece of
software before? Go though the HLDS list archives and tell me that
the content of the posts is in any way similar to now.
In fact you know what, don't, Kingley is right, this whole
conversation is pointless.
On Jan 8,
Understood, Kingsley.
And the people suffering from this bug aren't asking for help at this point.
We're BEGGING for it. We want to know when this problem will be fixed as it is
a major problem that's causing us grief (and a lot more work) - and this is the
most reasonable place for this
BUT DARREN THIS IS NOT HOW KARL WOULD RUN THINGS IF IT WERE HIS COMPANY,
HE HAS BEEN WORKING IN AN IT COMPANY FOR 60 YEARS AND HE WOULD FIRE
EVERY VALVE EMPLOYEE BECAUSE THEY DO NOT LIVE UP TO HIS IMMACULATE
STANDARDS AND EVERYONE MUST ABIDE BY KARL'S VISION OF HOW A FREE AND
UNSUPPORTED MAILING
Useless hyperbole.
You know what they say - you're either part of the solution or part of the
problem. You've clearly shown what side you're on.
I'm not asking anyone to abide by my vision. You, on the other hand, are trying
to cheerlead people into abiding by yours.
Good luck with that.
lolin' at you thinking ANY of this is helping. At least by trolling
there's no allusions about it.
On Jan 8, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Karl Weckstrom wrote:
Useless hyperbole.
You know what they say - you're either part of the solution or part
of the problem. You've clearly shown what side
I'm looking for an answer.
Maybe valve will answer to this problem and give us some kind of timeframe.
Maybe they won't.
At least I'm trying, as are several others in here apparently. If you want to
lay on your back and laugh over our futile attempts - again - you have that
right, and I
Actually the only reason this list has become virtually useless is that
Valve has stopped responding to it.
Alfred, where art thou?! We miss you! :(
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:48 PM, sixtysixno...@hotmail.com wrote:
Well Said
-Original Message-
From: Kingsley Foreman
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